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How does someone like Keir Starmer receive a knighthood?

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pusspuss9 · 11/04/2026 10:13

I can't help wondering how Keir Starmer ever got to be made a sir? I always thought sirs were people who had done something special?

OP posts:
Itsmetheflamingo · 11/04/2026 14:54

am LOL at the idea David Bowie is smarter than kier Starmer

Scotiasdarling · 11/04/2026 14:59

Itsmetheflamingo · 11/04/2026 14:54

am LOL at the idea David Bowie is smarter than kier Starmer

Of the list I gave some have brains, some charisma, no doubt some have both. The unfortunate prime minister appears to have neither.

SheilaFentiman · 11/04/2026 15:01

i honestly don’t see why someone shouldn’t be pleased that they received a knighthood for their public service (in this case, as DPP)

And you don’t rise through the ranks of barristers without brains. What a bizarre comment.

Scotiasdarling · 11/04/2026 15:02

CurlewKate · 11/04/2026 14:52

Happy to address all your points. Once you’ve provided proper evidence.

I don't need you to address my points thanks, they are all indubitably true. You can find them by googling, as you all seem keen that other people should do.

CalicoCaterina · 11/04/2026 15:10

KS was generally viewed as a good leader in the CS. I know a number of people who worked directly with him over the years, all say the same thing, a decent man, team player.

This article seems to agree.

Keir Starmer: The senior civil servant who became prime minister

What was Keir Starmer like as a senior civil service boss? And what sort of PM will he make? CSW speaks to his former colleagues from his time as D...

https://www.civilserviceworld.com/in-depth/article/keir-starmer-senior-civil-servant-dpp-cps-prime-minister-profile

CalicoCaterina · 11/04/2026 15:12

He turned down a peerage on leaving the CS.

pointythings · 11/04/2026 15:17

Scotiasdarling · 11/04/2026 15:02

I don't need you to address my points thanks, they are all indubitably true. You can find them by googling, as you all seem keen that other people should do.

Well, for starters your point about the council elections is incorrect. The councils where elections were initially cancelled asked for the elections to be postpones themselves - because they were having their boundaries redrawn, meaning they would have to hold new elections within 2 years at considerable cost to the local taxpayer. It was a prudent and sensible move designed to prevent waste. And then Reform came and stopmed all over it with their incompetent boots. Link below, because unlike some people here I like to back up what I'm saying.

www.gov.uk/government/news/councils-granted-flexibility-to-finish-reorganisation

And yes, they'll probably get in. Which is great, because it means they have 2 years to completely fuck things up and show themselves up for the stupid useless grifters they are. Then in two years, people can elect better people.

And if you're wrong about this (which you are), you are bound to be wrong about everything else you have posted.

BewareoftheLambs · 11/04/2026 15:33

Scotiasdarling · 11/04/2026 14:09

It must be nice for the PM to see the level of support on here, or perhaps he's got his own office on to writing the replies. Anyway, he's the least popular prime minister we have ever had, and that's saying something.

He has taken the largest amount of gifts and freebies of any MP since 2019, in fact as many as the next five MP's put together. This raises serious concerns of conflicts of interest.

He avoids PMQ 's like the plague and times announcements so he can't immediately be held to account.

In case anyone has forgotten, he tried to cancel the elections being held next month because he is very unlikely to be keen on the results. Not a shining example of democracy.

On the subject of his knighthood, if he really doesn't use it why accept it? Many people with more brains, talent, and integrity than him have turned them down. (Francis Crick, Alan Bennett, George Bernard Shaw, Stephen Hawking, Danny Boyle, and David Bowie to name but a few from a very long list). He certainly seemed to want people to be aware of it when he used to refer to his wife as 'Lady Vick' (She wasn't and isn't, she's lady Starmer .) It made him sound absolutely pathetically pleased with himself.

I simply cannot believe for one moment he is less popular than the buffoon that was Boris Johnson.

BewareoftheLambs · 11/04/2026 15:38

Scotiasdarling · 11/04/2026 14:59

Of the list I gave some have brains, some charisma, no doubt some have both. The unfortunate prime minister appears to have neither.

Oh come on, he clearly does have brains. I don't personally care for charisma in a Prime Minister, it isn't an important qualification in my mind.

Either way, I suspect you'll be doing as you're told - Moscow must be loving it. The question is, does Mr F have the necessary brains and charisma you desire? For me, I dislike the slimy git, but everyone has their own choices to make.

unistress · 11/04/2026 15:41

BewareoftheLambs · 11/04/2026 15:33

I simply cannot believe for one moment he is less popular than the buffoon that was Boris Johnson.

Johnson had the rw press largely on his side though.

Scotiasdarling · 11/04/2026 15:54

BewareoftheLambs · 11/04/2026 15:38

Oh come on, he clearly does have brains. I don't personally care for charisma in a Prime Minister, it isn't an important qualification in my mind.

Either way, I suspect you'll be doing as you're told - Moscow must be loving it. The question is, does Mr F have the necessary brains and charisma you desire? For me, I dislike the slimy git, but everyone has their own choices to make.

Do you believe that everyone who disagrees with you is in the pay of moscow?

Reading this thread is like being in the company of a lot of children with their fingers in their ears shouting la la la

BewareoftheLambs · 11/04/2026 15:59

Scotiasdarling · 11/04/2026 15:54

Do you believe that everyone who disagrees with you is in the pay of moscow?

Reading this thread is like being in the company of a lot of children with their fingers in their ears shouting la la la

Not for a moment, however many people are demonstrating a great ability to be manipulated.

Also, I must most vehemently disagree with your comparison, there seem to be some on here who speak far less sense than the vast majority of children I know.

We will not agree. I will therefore, respectfully, leave you to your views now. I wish you a delightful day.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 11/04/2026 16:04

Scotiasdarling · 11/04/2026 14:59

Of the list I gave some have brains, some charisma, no doubt some have both. The unfortunate prime minister appears to have neither.

You're on a hiding to nothing trying to claim that Keir Starmer has no brains.
Passed 11+
Got three A levels at a time when most of the population left school at 16 with minimal qualifications
First in Law from Leeds
Postgraduate qualification in law from Oxford
Called to the bar 1987, the year he was 25
QC at the age of 39
Director of Public Prosecutions 2008

This is not the CV of a fool.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 11/04/2026 16:18

unistress · 11/04/2026 15:41

Johnson had the rw press largely on his side though.

There was a depressingly common view that Johnson was a good laugh, that people would enjoy having a pint with him, etc etc. He worked hard on that image. It's telling that a highly intelligent ex-lawyer with a strong reputation for integrity, a rock solid marriage, children carefully kept out of the private eye, close, loving relationships with his parents and siblings, etc etc, but perceived as a bit dull is getting so much more flak than the flamboyant ex-journalist and noted philanderer on his third marriage with an unknown number of children and a professional reputation for being unreliable and dishonest.

His old boss Max Hastings on Johnson: Johnson would not recognise truth, whether about his private or political life, if confronted by it in an identity parade. Ihttps://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jun/24/boris-johnson-prime-minister-tory-party-britain

When it comes to who should be running the country, being 'a good laugh' should be near the bottom of the list of qualities we look for.

I was Boris Johnson’s boss: he is utterly unfit to be prime minister | Max Hastings

The Tory party is about to foist a tasteless joke upon the British people. He cares for nothing but his own fame and gratification, says the former editor of the Daily Telegraph Max Hastings

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jun/24/boris-johnson-prime-minister-tory-party-britain

Figgygal · 11/04/2026 16:24

pusspuss9 · 11/04/2026 11:24

he's weak, he lies, just for starters...

Any examples OP?
Come on you just don't like him do you?
He's had a career of public service and was head of the DPP. He's done more than a lot of those awarded such titles do you question them too?

SheilaFentiman · 11/04/2026 16:28

He avoids PMQ 's like the plague

Percentage attendance seems to be broadly in line with predecessors

How does someone like Keir Starmer receive a knighthood?
Scotiasdarling · 11/04/2026 16:29

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 11/04/2026 16:04

You're on a hiding to nothing trying to claim that Keir Starmer has no brains.
Passed 11+
Got three A levels at a time when most of the population left school at 16 with minimal qualifications
First in Law from Leeds
Postgraduate qualification in law from Oxford
Called to the bar 1987, the year he was 25
QC at the age of 39
Director of Public Prosecutions 2008

This is not the CV of a fool.

Passed the 11 plus??? I would hope so.

3 'A' levels (BBC grades,hardly genius level)

Leeds University? Not prestigious at all or difficult to get in to in 1970's/80's.

The entrance requirements for an Oxford postgraduate law course even now are a first class degree (from anywhere) and the ability to speak English.

Itsmetheflamingo · 11/04/2026 16:31

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 11/04/2026 16:18

There was a depressingly common view that Johnson was a good laugh, that people would enjoy having a pint with him, etc etc. He worked hard on that image. It's telling that a highly intelligent ex-lawyer with a strong reputation for integrity, a rock solid marriage, children carefully kept out of the private eye, close, loving relationships with his parents and siblings, etc etc, but perceived as a bit dull is getting so much more flak than the flamboyant ex-journalist and noted philanderer on his third marriage with an unknown number of children and a professional reputation for being unreliable and dishonest.

His old boss Max Hastings on Johnson: Johnson would not recognise truth, whether about his private or political life, if confronted by it in an identity parade. Ihttps://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jun/24/boris-johnson-prime-minister-tory-party-britain

When it comes to who should be running the country, being 'a good laugh' should be near the bottom of the list of qualities we look for.

100% this. Starmers biggest problem is he isn’t an elite. He will always struggle for support from the large portion of the British public who are bootlickers, desperate for a Johnson to treat them like his Victorian housemaid because that’s the only treatment they are comfortable in

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 11/04/2026 16:33

Scotiasdarling · 11/04/2026 16:29

Passed the 11 plus??? I would hope so.

3 'A' levels (BBC grades,hardly genius level)

Leeds University? Not prestigious at all or difficult to get in to in 1970's/80's.

The entrance requirements for an Oxford postgraduate law course even now are a first class degree (from anywhere) and the ability to speak English.

You don't know what you're talking about. Keir Starmer is a year younger than me so we were going through the school system at the same time. At that time A levels of BBC indicated a candidate at the top end of the ability range of those taking A levels, and of course only a small minority of the population did take A levels. I went to an extremely academic school, not unlike his, and getting AAA was a rare feat. First class honours degrees were very rarely awarded.

SerendipityJane · 11/04/2026 16:49

So odd that 2 separate posters think that becoming a QC/KC results in a knighthood.

Why ?

Most people aren't that interested, bright, or in contact with a reliable source of information.

StillWeRise · 11/04/2026 16:52

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 11/04/2026 16:18

There was a depressingly common view that Johnson was a good laugh, that people would enjoy having a pint with him, etc etc. He worked hard on that image. It's telling that a highly intelligent ex-lawyer with a strong reputation for integrity, a rock solid marriage, children carefully kept out of the private eye, close, loving relationships with his parents and siblings, etc etc, but perceived as a bit dull is getting so much more flak than the flamboyant ex-journalist and noted philanderer on his third marriage with an unknown number of children and a professional reputation for being unreliable and dishonest.

His old boss Max Hastings on Johnson: Johnson would not recognise truth, whether about his private or political life, if confronted by it in an identity parade. Ihttps://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jun/24/boris-johnson-prime-minister-tory-party-britain

When it comes to who should be running the country, being 'a good laugh' should be near the bottom of the list of qualities we look for.

this is so true
I partly blame the BBC, they gave him a platform to show off his roguish lovable buffoon character
In fact he is a lying charlatan with no morals either personal or public

EvieBB · 11/04/2026 16:53

pusspuss9 · 11/04/2026 10:13

I can't help wondering how Keir Starmer ever got to be made a sir? I always thought sirs were people who had done something special?

Don't you think he's done anything special?
David Beckham got one for kicking a football around. Is that special enough for you?

StrictlyCoffee · 11/04/2026 16:56

pusspuss9 · 11/04/2026 10:13

I can't help wondering how Keir Starmer ever got to be made a sir? I always thought sirs were people who had done something special?

He became a QC and the director of public prosecutions. Presumably a lot more than you will ever manage.

SerendipityJane · 11/04/2026 16:56

EvieBB · 11/04/2026 16:53

Don't you think he's done anything special?
David Beckham got one for kicking a football around. Is that special enough for you?

Just to muddy things, it's fair to say that as a result of his ball kicking skills, David Beckham made more money for the UK as a whole and paid more tax than the OP could ever dream of.

pointythings · 11/04/2026 17:05

Scotiasdarling · 11/04/2026 15:54

Do you believe that everyone who disagrees with you is in the pay of moscow?

Reading this thread is like being in the company of a lot of children with their fingers in their ears shouting la la la

The only one shouting and posting nonsense here is you. You've been shown to be wrong about the council elections - so what else are you wrong about?

Your tactics of not addressing it when you are challenged with the truth show you for what you are.