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FallenNight · 31/03/2026 11:45

Passingthrough123 · 31/03/2026 11:31

You're joking?! Vine's doing a phone-in???

I'm more surprised by the thought that Vernon could be speechless!

something2say · 31/03/2026 11:45

Yet another disgusting bloke sexually abusing kids while working for the BBC.

Fizbosshoes · 31/03/2026 11:45

We have radio 2 on all day at work and, said JV usually covers current news....but that would be quite awkward to cover a story about a work colleague.....then half an hour later, he popped up to say what was being included in his show today.. .and mentioned Scott Mills. Quite astonishing! I dont think there's been an item on Tim Westwood yet....

truepenguin · 31/03/2026 11:47

Oof just listened back. You can really hear the cogs turning with Vernon as he lets that one hang. Didn't want to be drawn into any 'banter' with Jeremy (safer ground with the seagulls though).

It actually raises a more interesting question of control in the BBC. Who is allowing what? JV isn't autonomous I presume, so what are the optics here? Who is sacking whom, but then allowing the same organisation to have a kind of 'trial by listener'...when the listener has only hearsay and half facts.

It's all very meta. Very Black Mirror.

Chersfrozenface · 31/03/2026 11:47

Re employment law...

The BBC in its first statement said "..we can confirm Scott Mills is no longer contracted to work with the BBC."

AFAIK employment law does not apply to contractors, who are not deemed employees.

I'm sure the Beeb has had lawyers go over its grounds for terminating his contract.

Starlight1979 · 31/03/2026 11:47

FallenNight · 31/03/2026 11:45

I'm more surprised by the thought that Vernon could be speechless!

😂

Gettingbysomehow · 31/03/2026 11:49

Im watching BBC2 news right now and the broadcaster is saying he groomed an under age boy. New evidence and new enquiry to be carried out. It was felt the original complaint was not investigated properly much like those girls up north.

Passingthrough123 · 31/03/2026 11:49

something2say · 31/03/2026 11:45

Yet another disgusting bloke sexually abusing kids while working for the BBC.

Wow, you know something about the case that the police and CPS didn't?

Ihateboris · 31/03/2026 11:50

Passingthrough123 · 31/03/2026 11:49

Wow, you know something about the case that the police and CPS didn't?

Well they obviously have some concrete evidence now

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KidsDoBetter · 31/03/2026 11:51

StasisMom · 31/03/2026 11:37

The interview is the same but you can be invited for a voluntary interview whereby the accused has not been arrested.

Interview under caution is voluntary but you are given your PACE caution.

Interviewed whilst you have been arrested is subject to the 24 hour time limit (more if extension granted by the mag) and obviously you are held in detention in police cell for the latter. They often don't interview straight away in that case obvs. Its very unpleasant for those who don't experience it regularly.

A "caution" is a very different thing. Its where you have admitted a minor offence and non-judicial resolution to the matter by the police which are "spent" immediately but can come up on your DBS check for 2-6 years. On your police record forever tho.

Passingthrough123 · 31/03/2026 11:51

Gettingbysomehow · 31/03/2026 11:49

Im watching BBC2 news right now and the broadcaster is saying he groomed an under age boy. New evidence and new enquiry to be carried out. It was felt the original complaint was not investigated properly much like those girls up north.

They actually said "Mills groomed an under-age boy" and the case is being reopened? No other news outlet is reporting that.

Passingthrough123 · 31/03/2026 11:52

Ihateboris · 31/03/2026 11:50

Well they obviously have some concrete evidence now

The BBC or the police?

Ihateboris · 31/03/2026 11:54

Passingthrough123 · 31/03/2026 11:52

The BBC or the police?

Both

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Gettingbysomehow · 31/03/2026 11:54

Passingthrough123 · 31/03/2026 11:51

They actually said "Mills groomed an under-age boy" and the case is being reopened? No other news outlet is reporting that.

Thsts what they just said.

Chersfrozenface · 31/03/2026 11:54

The BBC News website is quoting the Met Police.

"Police say teenage boy at centre of Scott Mills sexual offences investigation was under 16"

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwykq2lqjw7o

Passingthrough123 · 31/03/2026 11:55

Wonderones · 31/03/2026 11:42

I taught with someone who was accused of grooming a teenage girl 15 years ago. Not enough evidence so no charges brought. Ten years on his school investigated it when they were made aware and the teaching standards agency felt he was guilty and he was struck off from teaching - I assume it's like this.

I can see why – that person works in close proximity with children, plus teachers have to abide by teaching standards. A radio DJ who the CPS found didn't have a case to answer isn't the same. And I can't believe for a second no one at Radio 1 knew he wasn't being investigated at the time.

Passingthrough123 · 31/03/2026 11:55

Ihateboris · 31/03/2026 11:54

Both

The police haven't said a peep about reopening the case though, which means the BBC are going off the word of someone whose previous allegations were dismissed by the CPS. Very dodgy ground to be on.

Wonderones · 31/03/2026 11:56

Passingthrough123 · 31/03/2026 11:55

I can see why – that person works in close proximity with children, plus teachers have to abide by teaching standards. A radio DJ who the CPS found didn't have a case to answer isn't the same. And I can't believe for a second no one at Radio 1 knew he wasn't being investigated at the time.

Well I can understand it if they're saying the bbc expects certain standards from their staff, but you're absolutely right as they must have known at the time.

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Jellycatspyjamas · 31/03/2026 11:58

Gettingbysomehow · 31/03/2026 11:49

Im watching BBC2 news right now and the broadcaster is saying he groomed an under age boy. New evidence and new enquiry to be carried out. It was felt the original complaint was not investigated properly much like those girls up north.

It’ll be interesting if they are investigating grooming given grooming as an offence came into the statute books in 2003, and his offences pre-date that law.

truepenguin · 31/03/2026 11:59

Very interested to hear how they screen the calls and who they choose for airtime.

It will either go 'let's not judge until we know the details' (which would be awful and seriously unhelpful for any victim to hear) OR 'the bbc should have done their due-diligence' (which is bad for the bbc) OR 'he's a pervy paedo and I'm glad he's gone' which...well... I'm not defending SM, but if his mental health is poor, they need to be very careful before getting the nation to stick the boot in.

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 31/03/2026 12:01

likelysuspect · 31/03/2026 11:13

How would that happen?

If he’s charged with an offence then he’ll be prosecuted.

Ohcrap082024 · 31/03/2026 12:01

rwalker · 31/03/2026 10:19

I don’t understand how they can sack someone for an allegation that was never proved or he was charged with

Agreed. Either there’s more to come or SM has broken his contract in some way. Could it be possible that in light of Saville, Edwards and Brand that new BBC contracts for big talent have a disclosure clause. Something along the lines of a duty to report any and all current and past contact with authorities regarding cases involving minors?

Any legal bods about who can shed light on if such a contract clause is possible/ legal?

In any case, I strongly suspect that in the next 48 hours, we will know much more.

Passingthrough123 · 31/03/2026 12:02

truepenguin · 31/03/2026 11:59

Very interested to hear how they screen the calls and who they choose for airtime.

It will either go 'let's not judge until we know the details' (which would be awful and seriously unhelpful for any victim to hear) OR 'the bbc should have done their due-diligence' (which is bad for the bbc) OR 'he's a pervy paedo and I'm glad he's gone' which...well... I'm not defending SM, but if his mental health is poor, they need to be very careful before getting the nation to stick the boot in.

Totally agree. It is beyond stupid for the BBC and Radio 2 itself to be doing a phone-in on this. It's like everyone's decided he must be guilty when the CPS already ruled seven years ago that there was no case to answer in court. I understand he's a pretty fragile character and prone to heavy drinking – his own former colleagues adding to the pile-on is shameful.

Passingthrough123 · 31/03/2026 12:03

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 31/03/2026 12:01

If he’s charged with an offence then he’ll be prosecuted.

What do you think he'll be charged with now that he wasn't charged with in 2019?

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