Scott Mills sacked

[Ihateboris]

Link here. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckge1yn50y8o
Very happy as I can't stand him

Whatever about the turning a blind era (or worse) of the 70s and 80s cf Saville er al - in this case - assuming they knew nothing of SM's police interviews in 2018 - how exactly would they have been at fault? They employ 25,000 people and can not know the private lives of each and every one. If they had robust disclosure obligations in place (in recent years) and those were ignored by an individual they can't be held accountable.

Do you know him ?

Then why the hell were you listening to BBC radio for? Anyone that has anything to do with BBC now is a paedophile apologist so you're a bit of a hypocrite. Still paying your tv license? Probably. Absolutely ridiculous that you'd call anyone that when you're actively enabling it yourself.

I lost respect as soon as they fired dear late Steve Wright … and that made Ken leave ( he knew he would be next ) dear Paul Ogrady was upset when they cut his hours .. . I have never listened to Mills .. Chris Evans left .. Simon Mayo … also left .. I actully cannot stand many of them . Sarah Cox is lovely .. Tony Blackburn,
Michael ball is leaving and Lisa Tarbuck .. it’s a sinking ship ..

I'm sorry but ppl also do make up appalling lies about their partners to gain advantage. What you say is probably true of the majority of cases , I have no doubt. But the other thing is true as well. I know of one such case, where dreadful lies were told to manipilate a particular situation . It does happen.

I’m aware of similar allegations amongst non-celeb victims too (one happens to be a friend of mine)

Common scenario:

Parents separate. Co-parent amicably for a number of years without court involvement. One parent (usually the dad) then gets a new partner / gets her pregnant / has a baby. Suddenly there are contact issues or concerns raised. One party (usually dad) files a C100 as his contact is now being restricted and/or he wants more contact. Suddenly a slew of allegations are made that he was a serious domestic abuser. This is despite their being no previous allegations and a number of years of co-parenting, where there were never any issues raised around his capacity to look after the children or any issues raised around their marriage.

That was a daily occurrence. Having experienced it for a number of years, it got to the point I could predict what would happen and what would be alleged. Can you genuinely not see an issue or any skepticism with that?

I am not saying that everyone was disingenuous or making false allegations or trying to gain an advantage by the way; I am saying it followed a very common theme and pattern, and it’s interesting the circumstances to which all of these allegations were brought to light. I was responding to someone who was asking why allegations are made years later, and I responded with lived experience.

It’s a well known occurrence within social services and the police of allegations being raised during family court disputes.

Whether innocent or guilty, I can understand that you might hope the whole thing is going to blow over and you can get away without having to tell your employer. If you are innocent, perhaps you don't trust your employer, maybe you think someone will think "no smoke without fire", maybe you think it increases the likelihood it will leak to the public. I can think of many reasons you would want to keep it to yourself.

I don't want to speculate either way on what is likely regarding whether he is guilty of an offence, but I find the idea that the reason for dismissal was failure to inform the BBC about the investigation itself sounds very plausible.

This really has zero to do with any possible scenario here. Talk about a thread derail 🤷🏻‍♀️

Regarding John Leslie, the 2003 criminal case against him for sexual assault in May 1997 was dropped after the taxi driver who witnessed him & the victim going to his home died just before he was due to appear as a prosecution witness. He was the corroboration the prosecution needed as a legal requirement.

This is very different from a jury finding him not guilty after a trial.

I am very sad and disappointed with the information that has come out today. The the young boy was under 16 and at the age the allegations were made Scott mills would have been at least 24. That’s sexual offending against children in my eyes.

You are correct. My initial reply was responding to someone asking why people would make false allegations years later, and this was one such scenario I gave of why and when that occurs.

I don't think it does. I could imagine a scenario in which, seeing what happened to Huw Edwards and hoping for a payout, someone whose previous allegations were deemed to be without merit could decide to stir it all up again

I'm not suggesting that's what has happened. I'm just saying such a scenario is not impossible.

Er in anyone’s eyes. The law for example …

What did she do that was unacceptable
Scott Mills apparently had relations with an underaged boy,

I read that it was due to a relationship with a boy under the age of 16, apparently police looked into it but probably due to lack of proof they didn’t prosecute, someone complained to the BBC and they obviously they can act on less severe evidence standards and dispensed with his services. We will see if it’s that or not in due course.

I dont think you understand that post very well

I like Scott Mills

Nothing to say Michael Ball is leaving Radio 2. He’s ending his association with Les Mis, the musical show.

Steve Wright and Ken Bruce had been there a long time. It was time for some fresh blood.

I don't listen anymore..HTH

Quite a few people took that from it. Really odd. Its clearly saying Zoe is as clean as whistle but here is SM only in the breakfast show and a massive scandal.

That said, SM also at the beeb since late 90s. (But something untoward happened)

Not personally, but I never liked his presenting style

I mean, not in any way the same league in terms of criminality (if this stuff about him is true), but Zoe Ball and Sarah Cox were all part of that heavy drinking and ladette culture at the time, partying, were there drugs involved or did something happen like that with Zoe Ball?

Maybe Im getting muddled.

Everyone in entertainment is going to have something about them in their history.

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