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"War, huh, good God, what is it good for? Absolutely nothing!" - Trump Thread #157

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Spandauer · 09/03/2026 18:07

It ain't nothing but a heart-breaker
(War) Friend only to The Undertaker
(Edwin Starr 1970, written by Norman Whitfield and Barrett Strong)

Unless, of course, your name ends in Trump, when it ain't nothing but an opportunity to grift, deflect and destroy.

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RedTagAlan · 17/03/2026 18:01

SerendipityJane · 17/03/2026 17:54

The Falklands was touch and go really.

Well, that's what you are meant to think. Not all of it was conducted in public.

We were a few exocets away from defeat. If by non public you mean the US buying up "spare" exocets, ( or something like that), then that is now public knowledge. But I am going from memory here.

It was touch and go.

SerendipityJane · 17/03/2026 18:05

RedTagAlan · 17/03/2026 18:01

We were a few exocets away from defeat. If by non public you mean the US buying up "spare" exocets, ( or something like that), then that is now public knowledge. But I am going from memory here.

It was touch and go.

I think the fact you have that in your memory is the point. Things like France quietly disabling Exocets for us, and Chiles invaluable assistance were not in the news at the time.

RedTagAlan · 17/03/2026 18:12

And now it's Irish President Catherine Connolly, in the firing line.

I mean how long does it take for an advisor to quickly explain how the Irish system works. And that she is a woman.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 17/03/2026 18:14

SerendipityJane · 17/03/2026 17:54

The Falklands was touch and go really.

Well, that's what you are meant to think. Not all of it was conducted in public.

Incidentally and nothing to do with Trump, if anyone is interested in an account of working as a medic in the Falklands war, I do recommend Rick Jolly's Red and Green Life Machine: Diary of the Falklands Field Hospital, republished as Doctor for Friend and Foe, which I read recently. I think both editions may be out of print, unfortunately, but if you come across it it's worth having a look at.

AcrossthePond55 · 17/03/2026 18:15

SerendipityJane · 17/03/2026 18:00

I honestly think that they believe that the 'right people' (whites and GOP) will have the proper form of ID and that the 'wrong people' (brown, black, and liberals) will not. And that there are HUGE numbers of 'illegals' all voting Dem. It's been proven over and over to be a minuscule number of illegal voters and IIRC the ones in the news recently have all been Repugs.

I love how American contempt for anything unAmerican is so obvious. Or can Americans not read ?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/rees-mogg-voter-id-tories-b2339068.html?utm_source=chatgpt.com

Please remember that not ALL Americans think that way. There are many more of us who are welcoming of people from other countries regardless of where they come from or why they are here than there are those who are not. Any more than all Brits have contempt for anything 'unBritish'. Stereotyping does none of us any good.

But thank you for the article. I never thought of 'disenfranchisement via documents' as gerrymandering. But that's exactly what it is.

PS, yes we can read.

Justsaynonow · 17/03/2026 18:24

DuncinToffee · 17/03/2026 15:46

Hoping that anger encourages a little clot to break free and do its job.

walllaw · 17/03/2026 18:33

I know he's controversial (I think he's brilliant), but how refreshing is it to have a politician who isn't afraid to speak to the public like they're adults with the capability to understand things?

https://bsky.app/profile/mayor.nyc.gov/post/3mhbbpzusjk2c

Mayor Zohran Kwame Mamdani (@mayor.nyc.gov)

Happy St. Patrick's Day, New York.

https://bsky.app/profile/mayor.nyc.gov/post/3mhbbpzusjk2c

walllaw · 17/03/2026 18:36

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 17/03/2026 17:28

Could someone please remind me why this woman is not considered a reasonable candidate for President by the Democratic party? Aside from her being a young, intelligent, Hispanic, woman, and therefore not an old, demented, orange white man?

The last poll I saw of registered Democratic voters, she was right up at the top.

The party has a real problem with nurturing young leadership across the board, Maine as an example. A vitally important senate seat where they've put voters in the position of having to choose between a highly problematic renegade and a 79 year old woman with middling to decent support as governor.

I do wonder if there's going to be a trend to turning away from AIPAC money that will change that

AcrossthePond55 · 17/03/2026 18:44

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 17/03/2026 17:18

He is not afraid of anything because he is very, very, stupid and orange.

And because none of his 'nearest and dearest' will ever find their dainty boots on the ground of any 'conflict zone'.

Looking at you Barron AND Scrotus' granddaughter Kai aged 19 in May. Can't see either of them enlisting in a burst of patriotic fervour.

walllaw · 17/03/2026 18:46

AcrossthePond55 · 17/03/2026 18:44

And because none of his 'nearest and dearest' will ever find their dainty boots on the ground of any 'conflict zone'.

Looking at you Barron AND Scrotus' granddaughter Kai aged 19 in May. Can't see either of them enlisting in a burst of patriotic fervour.

I think you'll find that bone spurs are extremely heritable.

AcrossthePond55 · 17/03/2026 18:54

walllaw · 17/03/2026 18:46

I think you'll find that bone spurs are extremely heritable.

🤣🤣🤣

Justdancevance · 17/03/2026 19:08

walllaw · 17/03/2026 18:46

I think you'll find that bone spurs are extremely heritable.

I think he’d send Tiffany and her ‘billionaire’ husband to war quite happily

boatyardblues · 17/03/2026 19:39

Lalgarh · 17/03/2026 15:34

Shipping podcaster/ blogger:

Iran is now exporting more oil than it did a month ago

Also if any of you have cruises lined up they might get canned as at least one luxury cruise company hadn't bought enough oil reserves

I heard Dame Hayes of Hayes Travel on R4 this morning saying most of their recent bookings were for Spain, Portugal or cruises because the cruise company can change ports in itinerary if things hot up somewhere.

SerendipityJane · 17/03/2026 20:39

walllaw · 17/03/2026 18:33

I know he's controversial (I think he's brilliant), but how refreshing is it to have a politician who isn't afraid to speak to the public like they're adults with the capability to understand things?

https://bsky.app/profile/mayor.nyc.gov/post/3mhbbpzusjk2c

That is so eloquent.

Igotjelly · 17/03/2026 21:02

Maybe I’m being totally dense but exactly why is Mamdani controversial, other than the fact he dares to be (shock horror) Muslim! I think he’s fantastic and, alongside those like AOC he’s a perfect example of exactly what America is capable of producing.

Lalgarh · 17/03/2026 21:35

Stuff about globalising the intifada, general DSA posturing on gender woo, abolition of policing to be replaced with mental health squads to gently urge people with serious mental health issues causing antisocial behaviour to like, stop, man

walllaw · 17/03/2026 22:30

Justdancevance · 17/03/2026 19:08

I think he’d send Tiffany and her ‘billionaire’ husband to war quite happily

😂

To be fair, if you have two daughters, it is your obligation to save the hotter one.

Llttledrummergirls · 17/03/2026 22:39

Seriously, I'm sick of Trump stating the war is over, then whinging about putting other countries troops in harms way.

If the war is over, he can get his own backside to visit and sign his surrender.

andIsaid · 17/03/2026 22:41

walllaw · 17/03/2026 18:36

The last poll I saw of registered Democratic voters, she was right up at the top.

The party has a real problem with nurturing young leadership across the board, Maine as an example. A vitally important senate seat where they've put voters in the position of having to choose between a highly problematic renegade and a 79 year old woman with middling to decent support as governor.

I do wonder if there's going to be a trend to turning away from AIPAC money that will change that

This is so true - I am glad you are saying it.

The Democrats really need to accept their responsibility in this debacle. They need to nurture and bring forward their talent.

Funny enough - Berni Sander is touring with her.

RedTagAlan · 18/03/2026 01:48

CNN:

"The US military dropped 5,000-pound guided bombs designed to penetrate targets deep underground on Iranian missile sites along the Strait of Hormuz on Tuesday, US Central Command announced on X.
“Hours ago, US forces successfully employed multiple 5,000-pound deep penetrator munitions on hardened Iranian missile sites along Iran’s coastline near the Strait of Hormuz,” CENTCOM said. “The Iranian anti-ship cruise missiles in these sites posed a risk to international shipping in the strait.”"

So the US are doing the no brick left standing method. Starting with the coast, and presumably working inland to a distance equal to the range of the missiles. And that's quite far.

Instead of doing the standard Vietnam comparison, we could do the Battle of Monte Cassino instead.

That's the one where the Germans held a hilltop Monastery and promised not to fight from it. But instead of going around, the allies flattened it with Bombers, and the Germans moved into the rubble and did start fighting, the rubble atop a hill making a perfect defensive position. Combined deaths of about 180 k resulted.

So yeah, I think with man portable drones being used against unarmoured slow moving massive ships full of stuff that burns, landscaping the coastline to new rubble and bomb holes might not work.

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