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Thread 45 Starmer: Una nación que olvida su pasado no tiene futuro.

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DuncinToffee · 04/03/2026 13:14

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SerendipityJane · 16/03/2026 17:25

It's still pathetic though - people should be judged on what they do, not what they wear.

Not in a country obsessed with being "in the office" rather than "being productive"

E2A: Even if NCP have gone bust because of less commuting

DuncinToffee · 16/03/2026 17:26

I have been living here for a long time, had 2 children gong through the school system but I still can't get my head around the obsession with school uniforms.

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tobee · 16/03/2026 17:51

I think school uniforms are a good thing! It’s stops people from getting too fashion focused at school and a good uniform should be egalitarian; not highlighting who are the rich kids/poor kids, not spending time in the mornings worrying about what to wear so they don’t get bullied. Then, equally, the not wearing of uniform when you are at home, during the holidays at the weekend, a marker for the end of the day.

It shouldn’t be a business attire code with hot, uncomfortable and expensive blazers, ties etc. Uniforms should be practical and good value for money.

My dc’s cousins had a no uniform policy and it was much more about who had the “right” clothes.

Here I go barging back onto the thread with my unasked for opinions.

I suppose it’s a lot about what one is familiar with.

SerendipityJane · 16/03/2026 18:02

tobee · 16/03/2026 17:51

I think school uniforms are a good thing! It’s stops people from getting too fashion focused at school and a good uniform should be egalitarian; not highlighting who are the rich kids/poor kids, not spending time in the mornings worrying about what to wear so they don’t get bullied. Then, equally, the not wearing of uniform when you are at home, during the holidays at the weekend, a marker for the end of the day.

It shouldn’t be a business attire code with hot, uncomfortable and expensive blazers, ties etc. Uniforms should be practical and good value for money.

My dc’s cousins had a no uniform policy and it was much more about who had the “right” clothes.

Here I go barging back onto the thread with my unasked for opinions.

I suppose it’s a lot about what one is familiar with.

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Every single company I have ever worked with has had buried in the handbook a right for the company to require certain appropriate standards of dress.

In one of the few things I actually believed from HR, I was told that they couldn't trust people otherwise. Which I already knew, having been awake growing up.

placemats · 16/03/2026 18:56

pointythings · 16/03/2026 17:22

Actually you have a point - it's wider than I said. It's still pathetic though - people should be judged on what they do, not what they wear.

There is however a strong element of sexism about it - Theresa May got hit with it, now Hannah Spencer, and they also went after Angela Rayner over her green suit. Woman, know your place!

Exactly what I was going to post. Spot on.

Llttledrummergirl · 16/03/2026 19:17

tobee · 16/03/2026 17:51

I think school uniforms are a good thing! It’s stops people from getting too fashion focused at school and a good uniform should be egalitarian; not highlighting who are the rich kids/poor kids, not spending time in the mornings worrying about what to wear so they don’t get bullied. Then, equally, the not wearing of uniform when you are at home, during the holidays at the weekend, a marker for the end of the day.

It shouldn’t be a business attire code with hot, uncomfortable and expensive blazers, ties etc. Uniforms should be practical and good value for money.

My dc’s cousins had a no uniform policy and it was much more about who had the “right” clothes.

Here I go barging back onto the thread with my unasked for opinions.

I suppose it’s a lot about what one is familiar with.

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My ds1 grammar had blazers, but they had sew on badges. I once bought him a brand new blazer in the M&S sale for £7. His pe kit was plain shorts and t-shirt.

The comp ds2 and dd went to had everything badged, their uniforms were about 3 times the cost of ds1.

I don't mind a uniform, but I think they should be reasonably priced and allowed to be worn as the student wants. None of this draconian prisoner crap some schools choose. Uniforms should be a help not a hindrance.

DuncinToffee · 16/03/2026 19:24

tobee · 16/03/2026 17:51

I think school uniforms are a good thing! It’s stops people from getting too fashion focused at school and a good uniform should be egalitarian; not highlighting who are the rich kids/poor kids, not spending time in the mornings worrying about what to wear so they don’t get bullied. Then, equally, the not wearing of uniform when you are at home, during the holidays at the weekend, a marker for the end of the day.

It shouldn’t be a business attire code with hot, uncomfortable and expensive blazers, ties etc. Uniforms should be practical and good value for money.

My dc’s cousins had a no uniform policy and it was much more about who had the “right” clothes.

Here I go barging back onto the thread with my unasked for opinions.

I suppose it’s a lot about what one is familiar with.

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Happy for you to barge in Grin

Practical and good value for money, fine. We had that at DC primary school.
Blazers, ties, skirt length, shoe colour, hair styles, badged trousers, nah.

As you said, it is what you are familiar with. I grew up without uniform and it was fine, We managed to dress for occassions and work.

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DuncinToffee · 16/03/2026 19:41

Trump is taking Starmer's 'no' well

"He told me 'I'm meeting with my team to make a determination'. I said, 'You don't need to meet with a team. You're the PM... Why do you need to meet with your team to find out whether or not to send some boats?"

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PandoraSocks · 16/03/2026 19:54

Oh just fuck off, you orange twat. Please don't give in to him Starmer. No one else is.

I see Badenoch's doing the posing with machines thing again.

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DuncinToffee · 16/03/2026 20:10

She was playing Estate Agent the other day

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pointythings · 16/03/2026 20:18

DuncinToffee · 16/03/2026 17:26

I have been living here for a long time, had 2 children gong through the school system but I still can't get my head around the obsession with school uniforms.

Same, I've been here coming up 29 years and my kids have done the whole uniform thing. And it's bananas - you keep them in their polyester nonsense and then they go off to uni and wear whatever the hell crazy stuff they want. (Mine were lucky enough to be in a non-uniform 6th form so had an early escape, the dress code was clean, whole, no obscene logos and that was it).

pointythings · 16/03/2026 20:20

DuncinToffee · 16/03/2026 19:24

Happy for you to barge in Grin

Practical and good value for money, fine. We had that at DC primary school.
Blazers, ties, skirt length, shoe colour, hair styles, badged trousers, nah.

As you said, it is what you are familiar with. I grew up without uniform and it was fine, We managed to dress for occassions and work.

Well, you and I are from the same country. So we grew up without uniform and yet we managed to dress appropriately for work when the time came. As many young people do in countries where there is no uniform. I've never understood why British young people need a decade + in appropriate dress - they're definitely not less intelligent or sensible than teenagers in other parts of the world, so it's something else.

cardibach · 16/03/2026 22:43

DuncinToffee · 16/03/2026 17:26

I have been living here for a long time, had 2 children gong through the school system but I still can't get my head around the obsession with school uniforms.

I was born here and was a teacher for 35 years before I called time. I don’t really get it either.

PandoraSocks · 17/03/2026 08:22

The rest of Europe and beyond say no to Trump.

www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/16/europe-donald-trump-strait-hormuz-iran

PickAChew · 17/03/2026 09:01

PandoraSocks · 17/03/2026 08:22

I love the snippiness of this:

The country’s defence minister, Boris Pistorius, said: “This is not our war, we have not started it. What does Donald Trump expect from a handful of European frigates in the strait of Hormuz that the mighty US navy cannot manage alone? This is the question I find myself asking.”

DuncinToffee · 17/03/2026 09:29

Happy St Patrick's Day to our Irish friends 🍀

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Grumpyoldpersonwithcats · 17/03/2026 09:34

DuncinToffee · 17/03/2026 09:29

Happy St Patrick's Day to our Irish friends 🍀

Spotted on another thread that it's also St Gertrude of Nivelles' feast day today.
I'm sure all our cats are delighted. 😻

Thread 45 Starmer: Una nación que olvida su pasado no tiene futuro.
placemats · 17/03/2026 09:40

Go raibh míle maith agat!

My Irish granny had a cat called Gertrude as she loved her cat and her garden.

SerendipityJane · 17/03/2026 10:55

Taken from my feed.

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DuncinToffee · 17/03/2026 12:16

Zelenskyy has arrived in the UK to meet with Starmer.

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DuncinToffee · 17/03/2026 13:19

Don't recycle or bin your flyer

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BIossomtoes · 17/03/2026 13:25

DuncinToffee · 17/03/2026 13:19

Don't recycle or bin your flyer

You could send them any old rubbish, couldn’t you? It’s so tempting to send them the election leaflets from all the parties - individually, of course.

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