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US strikes Iran

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mjf981 · 28/02/2026 07:59

In conjunction with Israel.
Why? Starting wars has never ever ended well for the US, or for the country they are trying to 'help.'

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cn5ge95q6y7t

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Stirabout · 03/03/2026 16:51

InterIgnis · 03/03/2026 16:27

Ah yes, back to highlighting the deaths useful for you to acknowledge. Only those ones though, of course.

It was the original reason I joined the thread
It was denied by others

So
updates

Respect for innocent civilians is always justified whoever they are.

As this is a thread titled
US strikes on Iran’
it’s perfectly justifiable and ‘on thread’

EasternStandard · 03/03/2026 16:52

notimagain · 03/03/2026 16:47

@MrsStarskie

It is a huge country, east to west I think it like London to Greece

Yep, an important factor in all this that I think some might not be aware of.

Certainly lots and lots of places to hide stuff you don't want people to find easily

True.

BelleHathor · 03/03/2026 16:55

Stirabout · 03/03/2026 16:17

Nothing new here in terms of their stance

They are/ may/will defend their own

They are not joining Israel and the US in this war ( Germany had to denounce a report in The Times of Israel yesterday )

They have pushed for negotiations

Especially now that the whole situation is looking more and more like a quagmire, with no "day after plan" and increasingly illegal:

  1. The Pentagon has stated that Iran was not planning a pre-emptive attack.
  2. Marco Rubio (US Secretary of State) stated that "US launched strikes on Iran because Israel planned to attack" https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/mar/02/rubio-us-attack-israel-iran
  3. US speaker of the House Mike Johnson said the U.S bombed Iran because of Israel. He told reporters the US had to attack Iran to protect US interests, after Israel launched its strikes on the country.
  4. Trump initially said 4 days, then 4 weeks, then potentially longer. Also no boots on the ground, now boots will be sent if necessary.
  5. The potential blowback, Gas prices in Europe have already increased by 93%. If Chaos comes from this there will be a flood of refugees into Europe too.
  6. Iran's unpredictability, they've promised (and so far are keeping) their promise to target anyone whose assets are used to attack Iran. The Europeans have satellites, they know the real extent on the damage and deaths.

Anyway it would be petty, but staying out of it could teach Trump a lesson about his lack of support for Ukraine and threatening to take Greenland.

US strikes on Iran triggered by Israel’s plan to launch attack, Rubio says

Democrats disturbed by rationale that Trump ordered pre-emptive strikes out of concern about Tehran retaliation

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/mar/02/rubio-us-attack-israel-iran

Stirabout · 03/03/2026 16:59

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Your comment is offensive and seeks to demean my post

You see only what you want to see but not the current reality

Lets stick to being polite if that’s possible

Stirabout · 03/03/2026 17:01

BelleHathor · 03/03/2026 16:55

Especially now that the whole situation is looking more and more like a quagmire, with no "day after plan" and increasingly illegal:

  1. The Pentagon has stated that Iran was not planning a pre-emptive attack.
  2. Marco Rubio (US Secretary of State) stated that "US launched strikes on Iran because Israel planned to attack" https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/mar/02/rubio-us-attack-israel-iran
  3. US speaker of the House Mike Johnson said the U.S bombed Iran because of Israel. He told reporters the US had to attack Iran to protect US interests, after Israel launched its strikes on the country.
  4. Trump initially said 4 days, then 4 weeks, then potentially longer. Also no boots on the ground, now boots will be sent if necessary.
  5. The potential blowback, Gas prices in Europe have already increased by 93%. If Chaos comes from this there will be a flood of refugees into Europe too.
  6. Iran's unpredictability, they've promised (and so far are keeping) their promise to target anyone whose assets are used to attack Iran. The Europeans have satellites, they know the real extent on the damage and deaths.

Anyway it would be petty, but staying out of it could teach Trump a lesson about his lack of support for Ukraine and threatening to take Greenland.

Thanks belle

even the US had no choice

InterIgnis · 03/03/2026 17:02

Stirabout · 03/03/2026 16:51

It was the original reason I joined the thread
It was denied by others

So
updates

Respect for innocent civilians is always justified whoever they are.

As this is a thread titled
US strikes on Iran’
it’s perfectly justifiable and ‘on thread’

Tired Real Housewives GIF

There was confusion when it was reported. There is still confusion, beyond clarification being made that it did indeed happen. The prevailing sentiment was, and is, that we don’t know the full details yet.

Your deployment of it is nakedly cynical, and predictable. You’re fighting harder for the life of the Iranian Regime than the Iranian Regime is.

Stirabout · 03/03/2026 17:10

InterIgnis · 03/03/2026 17:02

There was confusion when it was reported. There is still confusion, beyond clarification being made that it did indeed happen. The prevailing sentiment was, and is, that we don’t know the full details yet.

Your deployment of it is nakedly cynical, and predictable. You’re fighting harder for the life of the Iranian Regime than the Iranian Regime is.

Your last para another seek to demean

Do you seriously have a problem with mourning the killing of 165 children and teachers !!
Really!!!

How could anyone not want to give time and respect to reflect on that ?
Who ever they are what ever country they live in 7-12 year olds certainly aren’t part of the Iranian Regime

Lets have a little respect

Twiglets1 · 03/03/2026 17:11

Stirabout · 03/03/2026 17:01

Thanks belle

even the US had no choice

Of course the US had a choice.

Are we back to the old antisemitic troop that Jews secretly control the world?

Is it feasible that Netanyahu could make Trump do anything he didn't want to do? (I'll help you out: No)

Rubio was asked the question: Are you saying the U.S. was forced to strike because of an impending Israeli action? (to attack Iran)

His answer: No, first – well, two things I would say. Number one is: no matter what, ultimately this operation needed to happen. That’s the question of why now. But this operation needed to happen because Iran in about a year or a year and a half would cross the line of immunity, meaning they would have so many short-range missiles, so many drones, that no one could do anything about it because they could hold the whole world hostage.
Look at the damage they’re doing now. And this is a weakened Iran. Imagine a year from now. So that had to happen. Obviously, we were aware of Israeli intentions and understood what that would mean for us, and we had to be prepared to act as a result of it. But this had to happen no matter what.

www.state.gov/releases/office-of-the-spokesperson/2026/03/secretary-of-state-marco-rubio-remarks-to-press-6/

Stirabout · 03/03/2026 17:15

Here we are again I’m afraid with updates on those killed
since
Israel and the US started this recent attack

obviously reporting is hindered, as it always is in war, and in those countries being decimated there may be more dead and injured

US strikes Iran
inamarina · 03/03/2026 17:22

Twiglets1 · 03/03/2026 17:11

Of course the US had a choice.

Are we back to the old antisemitic troop that Jews secretly control the world?

Is it feasible that Netanyahu could make Trump do anything he didn't want to do? (I'll help you out: No)

Rubio was asked the question: Are you saying the U.S. was forced to strike because of an impending Israeli action? (to attack Iran)

His answer: No, first – well, two things I would say. Number one is: no matter what, ultimately this operation needed to happen. That’s the question of why now. But this operation needed to happen because Iran in about a year or a year and a half would cross the line of immunity, meaning they would have so many short-range missiles, so many drones, that no one could do anything about it because they could hold the whole world hostage.
Look at the damage they’re doing now. And this is a weakened Iran. Imagine a year from now. So that had to happen. Obviously, we were aware of Israeli intentions and understood what that would mean for us, and we had to be prepared to act as a result of it. But this had to happen no matter what.

www.state.gov/releases/office-of-the-spokesperson/2026/03/secretary-of-state-marco-rubio-remarks-to-press-6/

I’d seen this interview and I was wondering why people kept quoting it as proof that the US was somehow coerced into this attack by Israel, even though Marco Rubio repeatedly stated that it was something that had to happen no matter what.

InterIgnis · 03/03/2026 17:24

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Stirabout · 03/03/2026 17:53

Just reported on the bbc

.The UK will send helicopters with counter-drone capabilities and air defence destroyer HMS Dragon to Cyprus, after attacks on a British base there, PM Keir Starmer says

Whilst Trump is disappointed the U.K. haven't done more ..didums

Twiglets1 · 03/03/2026 17:59

inamarina · 03/03/2026 17:22

I’d seen this interview and I was wondering why people kept quoting it as proof that the US was somehow coerced into this attack by Israel, even though Marco Rubio repeatedly stated that it was something that had to happen no matter what.

people quote it with their own interpretation of what was said in the expectation (unfortunately true) that a lot of people will believe what they say without ever checking what was actually said.

Stirabout · 03/03/2026 18:04

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Another suggestive post

If a school elsewhere is bombed during this war by attackers and nearly 200 children are killed
ill post

Lets pray I never have to

BelleHathor · 03/03/2026 18:05

Stirabout · 03/03/2026 17:01

Thanks belle

even the US had no choice

Leave it to Bibi, and it doesn't really matter whether the US had any choice or not the optics of it are devastating for the Republicans. Social media is calling this the "Epstein Fury" war.

It makes Trump look weak, over at MAGA the last time Bibi came to Washington they were jokingly calling him the "President of the USA".

It's been noted and contrary to how they may be portrayed MAGA and the vast majority of American's are hard working decent people who do not want to see their tax dollars going to bombing schools. They've also been burnt by George W. Bush and all the previous misadventures in the Middle East that have cost them trillions. Watching some of the videos posted after the first dead soldiers were returned to America yesterday, there is a lot of anger at Trump and Bibi.

Here are 2 Republican leaning pollsters (good at contacting hard to reach voters), good to keep an eye on to see how this is playing to Trump's base:

https://x.com/Peoples_Pundit/status/2028825110614860191?s=20
"Let me spare everyone from having to write and myself from having to reply to the ridiculous number of DMs and text messages I keep getting overnight.

No matter how many scenarios you keep dreaming up, there will be no upside.

This is far worse than "read my lips no new taxes". You don't give the country the middle finger like this and not pay a price.

All you can do now is limit the amount of time the darkness lasts.

Declare victory, pull out. Tell the foreign lobby to fuck off, like you should have done last year, and beg for voters' forgiveness by at least pretending to cater to their every need.

Otherwise, familiarize yourselves with the darkness and learn how to embrace political exile.

As detailed yesterday in a THREE-HOUR episode, the average outcast period for incumbent war parties in the modern era is around 8-12 years"

And Patrick Basham:
https://x.com/PatrickBashamDI/status/2028838016823828896?s=20

US strikes Iran
Twiglets1 · 03/03/2026 18:13

Stirabout · 03/03/2026 18:04

Another suggestive post

If a school elsewhere is bombed during this war by attackers and nearly 200 children are killed
ill post

Lets pray I never have to

Did you post about the children killed by the Iranian regime?

Since the unrest began in late December, the US-based Human Rights Activists News Agency (HRANA) has confirmed the deaths of 6,872 protesters, including more than 150 children.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c62v248xkl5o

InterIgnis · 03/03/2026 18:29

Stirabout · 03/03/2026 18:04

Another suggestive post

If a school elsewhere is bombed during this war by attackers and nearly 200 children are killed
ill post

Lets pray I never have to

No, it wasn’t suggestive. It was overt.

Stirabout · 03/03/2026 18:44

BelleHathor · 03/03/2026 16:55

Especially now that the whole situation is looking more and more like a quagmire, with no "day after plan" and increasingly illegal:

  1. The Pentagon has stated that Iran was not planning a pre-emptive attack.
  2. Marco Rubio (US Secretary of State) stated that "US launched strikes on Iran because Israel planned to attack" https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/mar/02/rubio-us-attack-israel-iran
  3. US speaker of the House Mike Johnson said the U.S bombed Iran because of Israel. He told reporters the US had to attack Iran to protect US interests, after Israel launched its strikes on the country.
  4. Trump initially said 4 days, then 4 weeks, then potentially longer. Also no boots on the ground, now boots will be sent if necessary.
  5. The potential blowback, Gas prices in Europe have already increased by 93%. If Chaos comes from this there will be a flood of refugees into Europe too.
  6. Iran's unpredictability, they've promised (and so far are keeping) their promise to target anyone whose assets are used to attack Iran. The Europeans have satellites, they know the real extent on the damage and deaths.

Anyway it would be petty, but staying out of it could teach Trump a lesson about his lack of support for Ukraine and threatening to take Greenland.

.Declare victory, pull out’

He’ll need to decide on his objectives once and for all first

In June Trump said
Irans nuclear capability was obliterated…tick

Today he announced
‘ Just about everything's been knocked out' in Iran, Trump says
today at 16:54 bbc

He's then quickly on to Iran, which he says now has
no navy,
no air force
or air detection.
"Just about everything's been knocked out," Trump says.
He adds that the pair will also be talking about trade deals

…later in the same press conference
‘ Trump has so far provided no details on who he believes is governing Iran now, or who could next - appearing to confirm earlier reporting that "new leadership" was targeted today.

he seemed to acknowledge concerns that a new Iranian leader could be more hard-line than Ayatollah Khamenei and his supporters.’

So whats a victory I wonder in Trump world
He doesnt seem to be in control of what he even wants

BelleHathor · 03/03/2026 18:52

Stirabout · 03/03/2026 18:44

.Declare victory, pull out’

He’ll need to decide on his objectives once and for all first

In June Trump said
Irans nuclear capability was obliterated…tick

Today he announced
‘ Just about everything's been knocked out' in Iran, Trump says
today at 16:54 bbc

He's then quickly on to Iran, which he says now has
no navy,
no air force
or air detection.
"Just about everything's been knocked out," Trump says.
He adds that the pair will also be talking about trade deals

…later in the same press conference
‘ Trump has so far provided no details on who he believes is governing Iran now, or who could next - appearing to confirm earlier reporting that "new leadership" was targeted today.

he seemed to acknowledge concerns that a new Iranian leader could be more hard-line than Ayatollah Khamenei and his supporters.’

So whats a victory I wonder in Trump world
He doesnt seem to be in control of what he even wants

He says what ever will play to his base and the last thing a person he likes told him when they visited the Whitehouse.

It's erratic behaviour, I think he thinks that he's keeping people guessing but it looks terrible and doesn't foster trust.

The declare victory is what happened with the Houthis last year, after a month America withdrew and declared victory with Trump calling the Houthis "brave" after saying they capitulated aka agreed to let American (but not Israeli) flagged ships sail through the Red Sea. The Houthis continued bombing Israel.

EasternStandard · 03/03/2026 19:05

Stirabout · 03/03/2026 18:04

Another suggestive post

If a school elsewhere is bombed during this war by attackers and nearly 200 children are killed
ill post

Lets pray I never have to

@Stiraboutwhat are your thoughts on those killed by the regime?

Stirabout · 03/03/2026 19:39

Reminder
Thread title
US attacks Iran

so obvs I’m ignoring derails and suggestive questioning . There are other threads

So
This war then

On the basis Trump just said today the next Iranian leader(s) could be worse than the previous ones and
Trump questions whether this war will bring about a regime change

I pray he’s wrong
I don’t believe he is

EasternStandard · 03/03/2026 19:55

Stirabout · 03/03/2026 19:39

Reminder
Thread title
US attacks Iran

so obvs I’m ignoring derails and suggestive questioning . There are other threads

So
This war then

On the basis Trump just said today the next Iranian leader(s) could be worse than the previous ones and
Trump questions whether this war will bring about a regime change

I pray he’s wrong
I don’t believe he is

That was in answer to worst case scenario wasn’t it?

FOJN · 03/03/2026 19:57

EasternStandard · 03/03/2026 19:05

@Stiraboutwhat are your thoughts on those killed by the regime?

I think it's possible to think the regime is brutal and abhorrent whilst accepting that regime change from the air will not be possible. That means a land invasion which will come with a high price for both civilians and military personnel. The general consensus among military people is that it would become a Vietnam type quagmire for the US with minimal, if any, chance of success.

Other options include continuation of the regime with a more hardline government or regime collapse and civil war. There are no good options. Intervention seems more likely to take an awful situation and make it worse for the majority. Syria, Libya are failed states, Iraq is fragile and barely functions and Afghanistan is run by a brutal totalitarian theocracy where the conditions for women are worse than they were before we invaded.

"Something must be done" is not a good justification for making things worse.

BelleHathor · 03/03/2026 20:02

Stirabout · 03/03/2026 19:39

Reminder
Thread title
US attacks Iran

so obvs I’m ignoring derails and suggestive questioning . There are other threads

So
This war then

On the basis Trump just said today the next Iranian leader(s) could be worse than the previous ones and
Trump questions whether this war will bring about a regime change

I pray he’s wrong
I don’t believe he is

Chances of a regime change now after killing Khamenei, close to zero. However Trump knew that, that's why he called for Iranians to come out on the street and protest the regime, "it may be your only chance for decades".

Instead, there have been Iranians out on the streets in Iran in their thousands, even as they are being bombed and they're calling for Vengeance and vowing to continue the path of Khamenei even if it means death.

The significance of what these idiots in Washington have unleashed will go down in History (if only they knew any).

Hezbollah is active again and the IDF entered southern Lebanon today, Hezbollah are already saying that they've destroyed 3+ Merkava Tanks and shot down a drone.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/hezbollah-claims-to-down-israeli-drone-fire-at-idf-tanks/

Iraqi Militia groups have been attacking the US base Erbil for the last 72 hours.

The Houthi's are sitting and waiting to get involved as well.

Trump has idiotically also called on the Kurds in the Iraq to get involved:
https://www.axios.com/2026/03/02/trump-iran-war-kurds-iraq , which then brings Turkey into it, possibly with ground troops.

EasternStandard · 03/03/2026 20:04

FOJN · 03/03/2026 19:57

I think it's possible to think the regime is brutal and abhorrent whilst accepting that regime change from the air will not be possible. That means a land invasion which will come with a high price for both civilians and military personnel. The general consensus among military people is that it would become a Vietnam type quagmire for the US with minimal, if any, chance of success.

Other options include continuation of the regime with a more hardline government or regime collapse and civil war. There are no good options. Intervention seems more likely to take an awful situation and make it worse for the majority. Syria, Libya are failed states, Iraq is fragile and barely functions and Afghanistan is run by a brutal totalitarian theocracy where the conditions for women are worse than they were before we invaded.

"Something must be done" is not a good justification for making things worse.

Iran is not Iraq or Afghanistan in terms of the people.

Leaving aside that what is left for Iranians in your post is that they endure oppression without escape, can you say more on why air only is not possible?

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