Alice Evans-Ioan Gruffudd

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In court this week, think this is the last part of their legal stuff? Anyway, what has really struck me with this is how the Daily Mail have been complicit in her narrative and the abuse he gets. It’s came out in the court she has made 30k from them, selling her stories. I’m aware it’s an absolute rag, but paying someone with an DVRO and running their stories, in an attempt to paint their victim in a negative light is surely low, even by their standards?

By threatening to accuse the children’s father of sexually abusing them? That’s showing them what a strong woman is?

If you think that you’re as sick as her.

It's sad that after all this time, their marriage breakdown has become to define her. No one talks of her career or her achievements, they just know of her behaviour after the relationship ended. She could have moved on with her dignity intact but she appears all consumed in destroying him. Her children will grow up, leave home and hopefully go on to independence. What is left for her? Her sense of injustice can't go on forever, surely she can see she needs to move on for everyone's sake.

The thing is, it’s no longer her marriage breakdown that defines her. It’s the fact that she’s a domestic abuser. That’s how she’ll be remembered now.

What that woman has done is indefensible. She is a proven domestic abuser and has destroyed her children's mental health. It's all coming out in court now.

Basically anyone who is commenting her in her favour is almost certain to be one of her crazy flying monkeys or Alice herself. Therefore it is pointless to engage unless you want to do it for the fun of it. They never listen. They are taking the side of an abuser which is worse than awful.

The Mail need to be prosecuted.

Being in a marriage or relationship does not make someone your property. People have the right to leave a relationship for any or no reason at all. That does not give the other person the right to lie about that person, harass them or to “get revenge” on them.

You sound just as bitter and deluded as Alice.

Being in a marriage or relationship does not make someone your property. People have the right to leave a relationship for any or no reason at all. That does not give the other person the right to lie about that person, harass them or to “get revenge” on them.

💯 this^^!!!!

And then "wouldn't you?" like "we've all been there". No! None of us have been there. Good God

Thank you for those who see through his abuse of Alice. You might thunk this is over but it’s isn’t by a looooonf shit. Wait until next week for the financing abuse

I’m sure plenty will become clear about finances next week. Looking forward to hearing Ioan’s forensic accountant testifying.

Those poor girls. It must be dreadful for them. I'm sure they are desperate for this to be over.

They (or the older one at least) are probably reading all about it too ☹️.

What a childhood. It’s all out there forever, all the details of your parents finances, drug taking, everything.

Alice again?

To what end though? What does success look like if you take revenge? Your kids hate their dad? He’s half of them it will destroy their confidence eventually. You want money, for what? You’ve had enough to create a lovely normal life for you and the kids, hundreds of thousands in wasted rent and court fees that would buy you a lovely flat in London, nice schools for your kids, a normal life that would be so good for them, but it’s not about them, I hesitate to use this word because it’s so overused but she is a textbook narcissist, even motherhood didn’t dim her selfishness, I met her once, in Paris when I was maybe 21, she was hideously rude to me, until she found out who I was, well not me but who I was associated with and then she was sickly sweet. She was in a relationship with maybe Picassos grandson, social climber doesn’t begin to describe her

Drunk Alice by the looks of it.

100% Agree. The message that has been removed by MN was a 'I know where you live' directed towards a poster on another site...standard behaviour at this point 🙄

Why does it feel like these two have been hammering this out for the last 10 years. Surely their kids are adults?!

My mum used to do all this obsessional shit too including porn stuff and worse. Hugely damaging for me as a child and as a grown woman trying to navigate relationships.
I don’t think I’ll ever be in a relationship again, it’s too much of a headfuck .
i dread to think of the damage done to those poor girls, especially with the addition of the media interest, their mum blasting it everywhere and their dad seemingly starting a brand new happy life with (apparently to a child’s eyes certainly) not a care in the world

5 years ish I think. The eldest is 16, youngest is 12.

Sorry what?

So Alice is fighting this case, presumably knowing all the awful stuff she’s said and done would be put before the court for the whole world to see. Surely no sane person do that?

If she is a narcissist (and im not saying she is but she seems to have the same personality as my mother who is) then she will stand up in court and swear blind shes not done what she has done

It's very hard to explain but I've seen my mother swear tell a story and swear blind that A happened

Knowing full well that I was there and it was actually B that happened but in her head it was A because that fits her narrative and she is the victim

It's like they rewrite history and believe it

My mother would have done the exact same thing to us (with less money or fame) if my father had dared to leave her (not us-his dc,if hed left her-we would have been the afterthought)

Im not sticking up for him at all,hes not innocent in all this but I can see how its happened

In a mad and twisted revenge,shes lost sight of what really matters

The dds and happiness-they dont matter as long as she gets revenge

Yes, hasn’t Alice’s forensic accountant withdrawn from testifying?🤔 🤣
The cognitive dissonance is staggering - in the posters mind Ioan protecting himself from harassment and litigation abuse is financial abuse. Just like Alice’s abuse is “only words”. If it’s “only words” why is Alice so determined to “take down tattle”. Alice and her FMs are totally “don’t do what I do, do what I say” 🙄

@Notatallanamechange yes, quite unbelievable, behaviour has not changed at all!

A poster on another site had commented outlining actions from Alice and 'friends', contacting them, trying to cause problems for the poster IRL etc, the effect on their mental health. The removed post here was

And NAME I know your address

IMO Alice is an abuser through and through. The excuse of betrayed broken women doesnt stand up to any level of scrutiny. She is rotten to the core, substantiated by videos and/or posts showing her behaviour towards her own children, her neighbour, and even posts from Alice asking followers to bully commenters who call go against her narative etc. This is not her word against others, it is all documented. If her behaviour was due to hurt over the relationship breakup, noone else would be on the recieving end.

Alice is an abuser! A pathetic bully!

Her go to response when she feels slighted is threats and abuse, it doesn't matter the who the recieving party is, or the 'severity' of what they have done, all that matters is that she believes you didnt fall in line.

If there was any justice both she, and the Daily Mail would be made to face consequences to their actions.

Her kids are going to need so much therapy in the future. When they see what she did to them during their childhood, they will be so hurt.

I find it really upsetting that the eldest child is homeschooled, so doesn't get any relief at all from being around her mother. Poor thing.