Alice Evans-Ioan Gruffudd

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In court this week, think this is the last part of their legal stuff? Anyway, what has really struck me with this is how the Daily Mail have been complicit in her narrative and the abuse he gets. It’s came out in the court she has made 30k from them, selling her stories. I’m aware it’s an absolute rag, but paying someone with an DVRO and running their stories, in an attempt to paint their victim in a negative light is surely low, even by their standards?

Same. She’s completely fucked over her kids.

Alice Evans is an alcoholic and drug addicted domestic abuser and a child abuser. There is absolutely no excusing her behaviour, no matter how ‘smug’ Bianca is - I’ll admit her posts on insta are a bit twee and if all this was going on in my life I would not have a public insta account.

Being twee isn’t illegal, or even a particularly ‘bad’ thing. Taking drugs and being abusive to your children and your husband is though. I do not know why those children have not been removed from her care, but hopefully one day they will manage to extricate themselves from the poisonous and embarrassing shambles her life has become. She’ll probably just drink herself to death.

Tattle have many threads about it.

But Alice has made it nearly impossible for the children to ever have a relationship with their dad now. Imagine the…humiliation? (no idea what word I’m looking for) they will feel to have to admit to themselves, their dad, his wife, and the world in general, that actually, yes, he is their dad and they want to go and sit in a cafe with him. Can you imagine the looks from people? How are they ever going to do that?

Don't know the ins and outs of this, but sounds like Ioan should get full custody.
A v sad situation.

Tom Hanks' first (and went on to be ex) wife had severe mental health problems and his dd from that marriage has talked about how difficult it was.

why haven’t child protective services in the US been involved in this case and how have the children remained in AE’s custody? It’s shocking.

Yes it is shocking. Especially as there is evidence of her leaving the door unlocked for her drug dealer to get in the house while her kids were there, and offering her young children cocaine.

Does anyone remember the hullabaloo over Ioan's website way back in the early 00s? IIRC it was a comprehensive fan site someone created but Ioan got involved with it himself and even contributed funding to keep it running. I used to browse it occasionally as I enjoyed some of his stuff back then. Alice regularly used to go on and warn off anyone who admitted they fancied "her man". One day someone made a comment back at her and all hell broke lose.

It then got discussed a lot on the imdb message boards and Alice again used to pop in and abuse people. It was such a crazy way to see a person behave. But the signs that she is at best deeply unpleasant and worse unstable were always there.

Part of the issue with the narrative Alice has put out there (along with the DMs help - specifically Alison Boschoff who is her friend…) is it continues to allow people to call him a deadbeat who isn’t providing.

The fact of the matter is, she set out to destroy him. That’s evidenced by messages, emails and such. And this included financially as well. For those saying it’s shocking how much he’s paying, because he is a reasonably well known actor: Alice singlehandedly did that by dragging this out. He’s also over paid her to the tune of 400k and has paid all the legal fees for the divorce proceedings she refused to be reasonable on. There is nothing left to give. She also had money and lied.

She actively chose to make her children tbink they were going to be homeless so she could put it on social media, start a go fund me and then watch the comments about him being a deadbeat dad flood in. That was only last year. And she had tens of thousands in the bank.

If the roles were reversed people would be up in arms, there would genuinely be national attention on how abuse can be played out in different ways. Including through the courts and press.

Her appearance on Lorraine with all the crying, right at the absolute start of this. She came off camera and immediately text him ‘Want more?’. It’s chilling.

I’m not saying she’s not abusive, but people. keep mentioning what if the roles were reversed. I would say that a lot of women who leave abusive relationships take the kids with them. Did he even consider doing that?

I can’t remember the ins and outs (am casual tattle reader) but wasn’t he working in Australia on a film when they split? Can you just take your children to the other side of the world when you’re working on a film, taking them out of school and completely unrooting their lives?

while no doubt she was abusive in their marriage, I am not sure there’s any evidence to suggest the child abuse was at play before they split, is there? That’s escalated dramatically since - am not sure it’s fair to say he should have seen that coming! Again if roles were reversed, abusive ex husbands often do maintain relationships with their children (and where they don’t it’s because they often cant be arsed).

I have got no idea about this case or this woman but see these threads pop up from time to time about her.

Do you know how easily messages can be fabricated?

If you care so much about the kids and their privacy/normality, why not leave it alone?

No one knows what really happened. The person who gets believed is usually the calmer, more credible one. Which is often not the innocent party!

Alice started her alienation campaign way before they split. She was threatening to accuse him of sexually assaulting the children before he left without any of his clothing or belongings.

Except that in court she didn’t deny the messages were sent, or that the incident happened. Merely that she’d ‘spoken to Ella’ about it.

He was so broken by then and she would threaten to report him for sexually abusing the children (which he absolutely didn’t do). I think he tried to mostly appease her hoping it would all settle down and was desperately trying to keep it all private.

The only reason people know the truth is because of the court docs.

Chequebook journalism is distasteful and if not banned, maybe there should be a requirement to publish all payments over a certain level.

In all such nasty separation and divorce cases I feel for children who are affected.

She was asked about this under oath. She didn’t say it was falsified, but that she ‘spoke’ to the eldest about the message she sent. So no. Not fabricated. In fact she’s not cast doubt on the legitimacy of any of the messages submitted.

Yes, she’s not even using that as a defence so I don’t know why people are suggesting the messages could be falsified. I’m sure if they were Alice would have said so in court, and provided evidence.

Woman scored, humiliated....She wants her revenge...wouldnt you?

Marriages break up all the time. She’s not unique in that. Plus she abused him. I imagine he felt fairly humiliated too.

I mean, as a parent I would put my kids first. I wouldn’t allow my hatred negatively impact them. The oldest is no longer even in school and ‘home schools’. Realistically how much is getting done? Alice seems to spend most of her life online.

And even if this is the case. She is humiliated because her abuse became known. It’s really no excuse.

Oh hey Alice

No? Who does that? Seeking revenge to the point you damage, not only your ex, but your own wellbeing and your own children, is extremely unhealthy. Not a "wouldn't you?" situation

Would I destroy my children’s’ lives to get revenge on the man I abused? No.

not if it means hurting my children and myself