Labour isn't Working - Thread 28

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Continued carry on with discussion.

More In Common and Freshwater Strategies are more promising with their Polling
MIC Reform 29% Conservative 19% Lab 18% LD 14% Green 14% : Freshwater Reform 30% Conservative 18% Lab 18% Green 15% LD 13%

Polling Dates Mic 27 Feb- 2 Mar Freshwater 27 Feb- 1 Mar

A solid 48% between Reform/Conservative which I think is 'Very Solid' and must be used sensibly to ensure we have something of a Country left.

It is one downside due to Starmer pissing off practically everyone. A few diehards left but many shedding left and right.

Partner of a current Labour MP arrested for Spying for China !

Partners of two Labour MPs 'among three men arrested on suspicion of spying for China' (thesun.co.uk)

The left are trying to compare Starmer's actions with Wilson's actions over Vietnam ! I did not know the Viet- Cong had access to Nuclear Weapons, nor did I know they sought the destruction of Israel or Western Christian Countries. Similarly, 'can some one put me right that the Viet -Cong were actively financing and organizing Terrorist atrocities in the United Kingdom.

The Left just get more and more ridiculous with every word that comes out of their amoeba size brains !

Don't know if anyone's listening to Andrew Neil on Times Radio? He's on fire.

The problem is people on the left of the Political Spectrum have a hard time changing their viewpoints when the facts change. This, is because they hold 'ideas' as if they were protecting their families from a firing squad ! They, get some kind of 'Virtual' from never diverging from the chosen pathway to a 'better' World.

Another, thing if I was Javier Milei I would keep the 'phone' continually dialing No 10 Downing Street, because with this 'arsehole' you have at least a 50% chance of success. With a bit of luck Milei might also be able to negotiate a $500 Billion 'Commission' for taking over the Falklands !

Re Chinese spies looks like one in England, one in Scotland and one in Wales. How stupid are some people.

However, Starmer gets a bit confused because like 'Paul Hardcastle' he has an obsession with the number 19 . These, being the average age of 'boys' he would like on the ground in Ukraine !

I think the age '19' and Ukraine might have a double meaning....

@Pacificsunshine i'm worried about the same thing.

'Rule Britannia' Britain Rules The Waves

HMS Dragon may not sail to protect Cyprus until next week – report | Express & Star (expressandstar.com)

Apparently HMS Duncan has no 'Petrol in it and the 'Petrol Station' will not allow it to be Fueled Up and to they see Proof that the NAVY has the Funds in the Bank ! The £100 Debit Guarantee Card did not go through.

We are a Joke of a Country that has been 'Whinging' it through our GCSE's and now we are doing our first Year Degree Exams without Year 10 basic info.

HMS Dragon Dragon and Duncan are the same type of Warship.

I missed it. It’s a pity I don’t think there’s a way to listen back, unless I’ve missed how, entirely possible.

I thought PMQs was a shame: at a time of major conflict there ought to be a sense of togetherness. But in fairness to Badenoch, it’s hard to stand with a PM who’s so cowardly in the face of his backbenchers and increasing Green vote.

The sight of Starmer puffing himself up as a wise and solid leader is risible. We all know why he’s running scared of speaking out in support of action against a monstrous regime. The ‘defensive’ position for US use of our bases is transparently dishonest. And he really ought to get some (more) voice coaching.

Still, no winner today.

There is so much happening, I'm still reading yesterday's news. Can't keep up! I missed PMQs today too.

The Times State of It podcast from yesterday is a good listen, if anyone if feeling nauseous from the Starmer love fest on MN.

Good piece in The Times yesterday on Starmer's so called stance.

It makes little sense morally. We are now engaged in a war we regard as illegal. We are not on the side of the Iranian people yearning to be free, nor on the side of the opponents of all wars. We seem to have lost a sense of who our allies are and who the enemy is. The cheers ring out from Tehran apartment blocks, while in Britain you hear the sound of humming and hawing. A massive war has broken out. It wasn’t at a time of our choosing, or in a way we would have planned, but surely we should at least know which side we are on. Australia does. Canada does.

And it makes little sense practically. It was obvious that if Iran were attacked it would lash out at its regional enemies and therefore at our friends. And obviously we would need to defend them. It’s ridiculous to think that the US could be in a war in Iran and that we would remain uninvolved. But now we have lost much of the goodwill that would have come with this involvement.

But never mind, at least we can justify our position legally.

http://archive.today/xeW2H

I'm really hoping that the Green support plus what's left of the other Left parties, stack up and concentrate in the cities.

The government has imposed an emergency brake on visas for the first time on nationals from four countries, as Shabana Mahmood accused them of exploiting Britain’s generosity to claim asylum.
Study visas for nationals from Afghanistan, Cameroon, Myanmar and Sudan have been halted, in addition to work visas for Afghans.

Imagine the response if this came from the Conservatives or Reform.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/mar/03/uk-puts-emergency-brake-on-study-visas-for-four-countries-nationals

I've come to the conclusion that city folk are brainwashed, incapable of critical thinking, and are clone like. Maybe it's the lack of country air, the recycled water they drink, the way they're living cheek by jowl.

They're living a half life, it's just too weird.

Me too.
Also hoping the Greens eat into the Labour vote just enough to stop them winning seats outside of the cities. The Greens came second in 39 Labour won seats at the last GE from memory, and that was when Labour were popular.

Ooh, that could work - the Greens won't do that well in those areas, but hopefully will have just a large enough percentage of the vote share to torpedo Labour.

@justasking111 I think there's something in that. When I lived in a city, I felt like winter was six months long as it just looked and sounded the same until the trees went green.
In the countryside, you're aware of micro shifts in the reasons. Which birds leave and which arrive, the snowdrops coming out, the gorse starting to flower. I literally have nightmares that I've accidentally moved back to a city.

Well, I left London three years ago

I would say everyone was pretty normal

I don't really understand why left-wing support would be concentrated in cities. I'm actually wondering what reasons there might be for that. Normally, I'm fairly well balanced 😂 but at the moment I cannot see anything positive in the left at all.

I suppose I can see why it might be concentrated in universities?

Speaking of leftists, why am I seeing pictures of Hannah Spencer at a ballroom dancing class? (I'd actually quite like to learn dancing, but I've got two left feet)

Just popped home to have some dinner and then going out again so I won't have a chance to look at any news. Probably just as well.... although I'll probably get home and end up being up late looking at it 😂 and then chatting to myself on here at midnight.

@SpaceRaccoon I still hate winter even though I can see all the changes. There's actually quite a few people with SAD who think city living is easier in the winter. I used to be on a forum about SAD and I heard that observation made quite often.

I have a friend who knows Hannah Spencer from two years ago, when she asked for a part-time job. Someone, who she said appeared to just be a young not particular special or politically aware Women. My friend actually questioned whether she actually understands or has fully read the Green Manifesto. This as to suggest that she 'personally' believes it should be legal for junkies to take Crack or Golden Brown outside a Primary School. Whether she thinks it is right that families who have been waiting years to be housed should be discarded in place of Asylum Seekers, Finally, my friend laughed that she was a property Millionaire and her partner was a highly paid scientist at Astra- Zeneca . This, is total miss infomation.

However, I believe there is something more sinister going on here. I believe Hannah Spencer is a convenient not a particularly Politically Wise person who is being used by the Green party, before they re emerge as the Islamic Party of Great Britain alongside George Galloway's Workers Party .