Name a better trio than Onion, Garlic & Ginger - Trump Thread #155

[Spandauer]

Blood clot, Announcement, Champagne.

(Shamelessly stolen from @Justsaynonow 's
post on the last thread)

Previous thread:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5482659-whatever-atrocity-is-next-trump-thread-154

It was money fraud first. So he sent in the jack boots instead of the accountants.

Now it's voter fraud, and he keeps back medical money rather than send in election auditors.

It's almost as if he does not actually want to investigate what he claims.

He is like a flat earther refusing a seat on a space rocket. Because he knows if he sees the shape of the earth his whole thing falls apart.

SerendipityJane
Democracy is very much like walking down a street. You need to show confidence, walk upright and demonstrate that you aren't a pushover.

Which is fine until you are a woman in her seventies and are literally pushed over by a young man because that has become a trendy thing to do, and your hip is broken in the fall.... www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5390561-men-are-pushing-women-over-in-the-street-as-a-trend

Hideous, thanks, since the time I heard the unbelievable result. How could so many people be so stupid together? And look at the grifters go. I'm going to bed and ignoring the result of the by election later. It's all very grim.

If you are unable to cast a vote safely then you have more problems than voting can solve.

How could so many people be so stupid together?

That includes all and any people who could have voted and didn't are are unhappy with the result.

Obviously lazy Leave supporters who didn't vote are overjoyed. They got what they wanted with zero effort. A metaphor for Farages fortunes.

Something that confuses me with elections, is if the result is 52k to 48k, the winner says " we have a mandate, we won by 4k"

But they did not win by 4k surely ? They won by 2k plus 1 ?

If we are talking Brexit, the exact result was

Leave: 17,410,742 votes (51.89%)
Remain: 16,141,241 votes (48.11%)
Margin: 1,269,501 votes (3.78%)

Turnout: 72.2% (33,577,342 votes cast)

So minimum number of voters needing to switch sides to have swung the outcome is 634,751 people

That represents about:

1.89% of votes cast, or

roughly 1 in every 53 voters who participated.

Plus Farages admission that had Remain won, it would not have stopped there - he would have argued for a rerun based on "how close it was".

Which I think was the point people have been trying to make. It is the case that ICE agents kill people for no particular reason, and if you know they are likely to target you because of your colour, how safe are you on the street?

No amount of voting at this point solves that.

I see the theatrics are on again. Clinton testifying now.

Democrat House Representative Yassamin Ansari. -

"It is abundantly clear that this is the most egregious cover-up in American history," Ansari says.

She says the Department of Justice has "violated the law" by "withholding 50 pages of allegations against President Trump".

"This cover-up needs to end immediately. I am glad that we are here today as part of this ongoing investigation, because we will accept any information that anybody can give us about Jeffrey Epstein's vast child sex trafficking operation.

(Sky News)

You do seem to have a problem when it appears to be the cops doing the illegal stuff.

Anyway, seems apt that it is being held at a performing acts center.

In that case you are wasting your time looking for a peaceful solution.

It's 1933 and the Enabling Act is a few months off.

Yes. Just so. And the solution might be for a large number of people to have voted in a different way some time before then, but it's a bit late for that at this point, isn't it.

Hindsight does tend to be 20/20.

It's the most expensive system in the world when it comes to Government spending.

Another blow to 'get them out of here'. Federal judge rules that sending deportees to a 3rd country is unconstitutional.

(per CNN TV)

And another death at the hands of ICE.

Blind refugee from Myanmar found dead days after ICE dropped him off at a coffee shop alone.

Also CNN TV (developing story)

Who said anything about hindsight ? It's not as if things like Brexit and Boris were not warned about well in advance.

And at this point none of us can do a damn thing about the results that we didn't like, can we. So harping on about them is not really a help.

Yes, we must be careful how we vote in the future. That isn't going to stop a majority of those who voted in the past having voted the way they did.

Hilary Clinton :

"Hillary Clinton has shared her full opening statement to the House Oversight Committee.

In it, she says she had no information about the criminal activities of Jeffrey Epstein and his associates.

"I had no idea about their criminal activities. I do not recall ever encountering Mr. Epstein," she says.

Clinton also urges politicians to ask Donald Trump about Epstein under oath.
"If this Committee is serious about learning the truth about Epstein's trafficking crimes, it would not rely on press gaggles to get answers from our current president on his involvement; it would ask him directly under oath about the tens of thousands of times he shows up in the Epstein files." "

(Sky News)

After the weeks (months ?)she spent in BENGHAZI hearings, I think she is pretty expert at this.

I read this today, really what kind of people are running around in the US, being paid for this depravity. 💔

I doubt you would be paid for just one. You'd need to fill up your target card first.

I wonder if ICE trucks go around with pictures of brown faces with crosses through them ?

Developing: Hillary Clinton’s closed door deposition has been paused because Lauren Boebert sent pictures of the proceeding to a right wing influencer who then posted it.

https://bsky.app/profile/just-jack-1.bsky.social/post/3mfrrynix522m

There is 'sort of' precedent for this, in a way. Of course, what's going on today is much more horrible and inhumane.

I can remember back in the '70s when welfare workers would buy a one-way ticket and put new applicants on buses and send them back to whence they came if their prior address was out of the state or the county and they had no legitimate family ties in their jurisdiction. I can also remember LEO's taking people released from jail or prison to the county line, dropping them there, and telling them 'don't come back'. And of course immigration has always loaded up buses and taken illegal border crossers back across the border.

It's the 'American Way', apparently.

Looks AI-ified to me

Only in the USA
will the state fund a kidney transplant for a 25 year old too ill to work
but NOT pay for the correct anti rejection drugs
so preventing them ever returning to the workforce
and being back on dialysis at huge cost to the taxpayer
within five years
for the rest of their life
(its been over 20 years so far)

That's awful, but you also see that kind of thing in the UK.

Not that specific case, but I do a lot of work with people who are really struggling and on the fringes here, and I see so many instances of the NHS costing itself insane amounts of money and keeping people out of productive employment, by not putting in the penny's worth of prevention or correct treatment in the first instance.

Sorry but that is NOT TRUE.

In the NHS, the patient will be given the right anti rejection drugs after a transplant
not left with one that makes the transplant fail.