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walllaw · 30/01/2026 16:43

For anyone who's feeling frustrated feeling like there's nothing we can do, this is really interesting

https://www.resistandunsubscribe.com

Here's the podcast where he (Scott Galloway) talks about it. He makes some really good points.

Resist and Unsubscribe

https://www.resistandunsubscribe.com

RedTagAlan · 30/01/2026 16:48

Lalgarh · 30/01/2026 16:43

I thought Don Lemon had got cancelled for reasons I can't quite remember now.

Other news: judge dismisses federal murder charges against Luigi Mangione.

https://news.sky.com/story/luigi-mangione-will-not-face-death-penalty-over-killing-of-ceo-judge-rules-13501115

Therefore potentially life but not the death penalty if convicted

I saw someone tried to break Luigi Mangione out of jail.

It should be headline news, but it's Trumps government news. State media.

JoshLymanSwagger · 30/01/2026 17:00

DuncinToffee · 30/01/2026 16:33

That leaves 3m not being released (Blanche confirmed they collected 6m pages)

What did they do?
Lose 3 million pages down the back of the sofa?
🤨

walllaw · 30/01/2026 17:05

JoshLymanSwagger · 30/01/2026 17:00

What did they do?
Lose 3 million pages down the back of the sofa?
🤨

Which inevitably leads to some jd vance jokes...

SerendipityJane · 30/01/2026 17:19

I hope Starmer sues for British copyright on concentration camps Especially as the Nazis never paid.

RedTagAlan · 30/01/2026 17:20

I wish you would do a bit of cut and paste so those of us without access could get the gist.

:-)

logicisall · 30/01/2026 17:26

Breaking news from Trump's WH briefing.

His armada, bigger than the one that went to Venezuela is on its way to Iran
His (new/to be built ?) battleship is 100 times more powerful than previous battleships. He always builds under budget and over spec.

walllaw · 30/01/2026 17:28

RedTagAlan · 30/01/2026 17:20

I wish you would do a bit of cut and paste so those of us without access could get the gist.

:-)

Sorry! it's Bloomberg news and I'm not a subscriber so can't usually access whole articles. The gist is the ICE is buying up commercial warehouses with the aim of turning them into concentration camps mass detainment centres.

Lalgarh · 30/01/2026 17:35

A war with Iran is a helluva good way to distract from 2 million pages of the Epstein files being released.

News just said they ask ppl accessing the site for ages verification. Suggestive of materials not suitable for children.

Some extracts out already (trigger warning ⚠️ etc)

.https://bsky.app/profile/darrigomelanie.bsky.social/post/3mdnslnytqk2g

Melanie D’Arrigo (@darrigomelanie.bsky.social)

Donald Trump allegedly forced a child — a 13-14 year old girl to perform oral sex on him, and then he hit her for biting him. This is rape.

https://bsky.app/profile/darrigomelanie.bsky.social/post/3mdnslnytqk2g

RedTagAlan · 30/01/2026 17:38

walllaw · 30/01/2026 17:28

Sorry! it's Bloomberg news and I'm not a subscriber so can't usually access whole articles. The gist is the ICE is buying up commercial warehouses with the aim of turning them into concentration camps mass detainment centres.

Cool. Thank you.

No wait,,, WTF.. NOT COOL.

As its Bloomberg, I suspect a great new investment opportunity to be mentioned. Treadmill powered AI data centers.

Semi joking :-)

Thanks for the info.

YankTank · 30/01/2026 17:39

logicisall · 30/01/2026 17:26

Breaking news from Trump's WH briefing.

His armada, bigger than the one that went to Venezuela is on its way to Iran
His (new/to be built ?) battleship is 100 times more powerful than previous battleships. He always builds under budget and over spec.

It’s easy to come out under budget when you stiff your contractors.

logicisall · 30/01/2026 17:39

Iran says it was prepared for talks with the US if President Trump ends his threats against the Islamic Republic and warned military strikes could trigger a wide conflagration in the Middle East. - Bloomberg

BBC Talking Head:
Previous talks were not going anywhere, Israel impatient that Iran has not agreed to a nuclear deal.
Trump: Iran's Supreme Leader is a "marked man".
So will it be the Venezuelan option for Iran? ie leave the current gov't in power, just change the head.

RedTagAlan · 30/01/2026 17:48

logicisall · 30/01/2026 17:39

Iran says it was prepared for talks with the US if President Trump ends his threats against the Islamic Republic and warned military strikes could trigger a wide conflagration in the Middle East. - Bloomberg

BBC Talking Head:
Previous talks were not going anywhere, Israel impatient that Iran has not agreed to a nuclear deal.
Trump: Iran's Supreme Leader is a "marked man".
So will it be the Venezuelan option for Iran? ie leave the current gov't in power, just change the head.

If only the UN security council plus EU had the foresight to have done an Iran nuke deal.

I wish this POTUS fella had access to the internet like us. The Whitehouse must be bad. I am in one of the most web restricted countries on earth, and even I can find this: without AI.

The Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action nuclear deal with Iran (parliament.uk)

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 30/01/2026 18:02

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 30/01/2026 16:28

And Chinggis Khan wasn't right-wing anyway.... More like a dangerous revolutionary, or even a terrorist.

I know, I don’t really understand how that saying evolved, but it was the only comparison I could think of!

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 30/01/2026 18:03

Lalgarh · 30/01/2026 17:35

A war with Iran is a helluva good way to distract from 2 million pages of the Epstein files being released.

News just said they ask ppl accessing the site for ages verification. Suggestive of materials not suitable for children.

Some extracts out already (trigger warning ⚠️ etc)

.https://bsky.app/profile/darrigomelanie.bsky.social/post/3mdnslnytqk2g

Hang on. That redacted wossit that shows in your post: what the frod has a criminal record in South Carolina got to do with someone else being raped in a different state? Or did I misread it?

Spandauer · 30/01/2026 18:07

RedTagAlan · 30/01/2026 17:20

I wish you would do a bit of cut and paste so those of us without access could get the gist.

:-)

Does this work? Apologies if it crashes the thread!

Bloomberg article:
ICE Begins Buying ‘Mega’ Warehouse Detention Centers Across US.
Plans for such centers and jails in nearly two dozen communities have sparked protests over suitability, proximity to homes and schools.

By Sophie Alexander and Fola Akinnibi
January 29, 2026 at 7:51 PM GMT
Updated on
January 29, 2026 at 10:39 PM GMT

Despite protests in small towns and cities across the US, the Trump administration is pushing ahead with the purchase of warehouses it plans to convert into immigration jails in what could be the largest expansion of such detention capacity in US history.
The cost for acquiring two warehouses alone was $172 million. A third in El Paso, Texas, could be among the largest jails of any kind in the country if completed as envisioned, with 8,500 beds. The deals mark the latest turn in US Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s plan to use as many as 23 warehouses for detaining thousands of immigrants arrested by federal agents in Minneapolis and other cities. Those aggressive enforcement actions have ignited clashes with protesters and led to agents killing two US citizens.
On Jan. 16, the administration paid $102 million for a site near Hagerstown, Maryland, according to a local court filing. A week later, the government paid $70 million in cash for a warehouse in Surprise, Arizona. The price tags — roughly in line with the industry average for the warehouse market — cover just the acquisition of the sites, which are currently empty shells. ICE still has to pay companies to outfit the buildings with toilets, showers, beds, dining and recreation areas and then run them as detention centers.

The El Paso site was purchased by the Department of Homeland Security recently, according to people familiar with the transaction who asked not to be named discussing a confidential process. But the sale price hasn’t yet been made public. Other transactions appear to be near completion. Canadian billionaire Jim Pattison’s company said in a statement that it had accepted an offer to sell its 550,000-square-foot warehouse in Ashland, Virginia, to a US government contractor. “Some time later, we became aware of the ultimate owner and intended use of the building,” it said. “This transaction is still subject to certain approvals and closing conditions.”
In an indication of just how sensitive the warehouse conversions have become, the company added: “We understand that the conversation around immigration policy and enforcement is particularly heated, and has become much more so over the past few weeks. We respect that this issue is deeply important to many people.”
On Thursday, Oklahoma City Mayor David Holt said he’d met with the owners of a warehouse identified by ICE who told him they were no longer going to sell or lease the facility to the agency. “I commend the owners for their decision and thank them on behalf of the people of Oklahoma City,” Holt said. “I ask that every single property owner in Oklahoma City exhibit the same concern for our community in the days ahead.”
The warehouses, many of which originally were designed and marketed as e-commerce distribution facilities, represent a significant pivot for the administration’s $45 billion immigration detention buildout. Last year, it relied on tent camps constructed in remote places like the Florida Everglades and an Army base in Texas.
ICE Pivots To Warehouses
Warehouses identified by ICE to convert into immigration detention facilities
Source: Bloomberg reporting
Note: The 23 sites depicted are part of the agency's warehouse plans. Sites could be changed or removed.
Little has been publicly shared about ICE’s plans for the new detention centers in small towns and cities across the country. Already, many residents have voiced opposition and local leaders are considering options to prevent the agency from using them. The concerns include both immigration politics as well as land-use issues — proximity to homes and schools, and questions of sewer capacity and water demand. Given such pushback and the logistical challenges, there’s no guarantee each of the 23 sites will be converted.
More than 200 people showed up to protest the warehouse plans in Hagerstown on Jan. 20 in below-freezing temperatures. “One of the most obscene, one of the most inhumane, one of the most illegal operations being carried out by this Trump Administration is what they’re doing at the Department of Homeland Security and ICE,” US Senator Chris Van Hollen, a Maryland Democrat, told the protesters. “We do not want an ICE facility here in the state of Maryland.”

DHS and ICE didn’t respond to a detailed request for comment. Neither did the companies that sold the properties in Maryland, Arizona and Texas — Fundrise, Rockefeller Group and Flint Development, respectively.
The 23 proposed sites would range in size from 500 to 9,500 beds. If completed as planned, the larger facilities would be some of the biggest detention centers of any kind in the country. For example, the 9,500-bed facility ICE is planning for Hutchins, Texas, could fit the entire average daily jail population of Dallas County with thousands of beds to spare.
In recent weeks the federal government has given tours of potential sites in more than 20 cities to contractors and shared with them the designs, including preferred layouts, for at least 15 of the sites, according to people familiar with the confidential process. Contractors — the ones who will turn these warehouses into jails — were required to send in their proposals for the first sites this week, starting with Hagerstown, according to those sources.
To reach its goal of deporting 1 million people a year, the Trump administration has said it needs more than 100,000 detention beds. Currently, there are more than 73,000 people in ICE custody, a record. The new sites could give the agency an additional 76,500 beds, according to documents shared with Bloomberg News. To fill all of them, the administration would have to expand immigration arrests beyond what it is already doing, said Emma Winger, deputy legal director at the American Immigration Council.
“To reach these kinds of numbers, they’d need to go out into the communities and find people who’ve been living their lives and been here a long time,” Winger said. “They’d have to dramatically increase their presence in communities across the country.”

ICE and Customs and Border Protection have already ramped up their presence and arrests on American streets. The estimated 3,000 immigration agents deployed in Minneapolis-St. Paul is roughly 10 times the number sent last September to Chicago, a significantly larger city. In January alone, federal immigration agents in the Twin Cities fatally shot two people, Renée Good and Alex Pretti. At least six people have died nationwide since Trump’s crackdown began.
As the administration increases its law enforcement efforts on the ground, it’s also casting a wider net for the types of people who could end up in detention. More than 1 million people have had their temporary immigration statuses canceled since Trump returned to office, putting them at risk of deportation. Immigration officers have also arrested immigrants at routine court appearances and check-ins. More recently, in Minnesota, DHS said it’s targeting 5,600 immigrants to reverify their status claims. That has resulted in some people with legal status getting arrested, jailed and flown to Texas for interviews before being released and forced to pay their own way home, according to lawyers and advocates.
Cities Identified by ICE
These 23 locales were named in plans for warehouse-based jails
Source: Bloomberg reporting
Note: * Owners of the facilities ICE identified in these cities say they have no plans on selling to the agency. This list is based on ICE's plans and may change. Some of the cities are approximate locations, based on nearest municipality.
Unlike the cities where ICE and CBP agents have fanned out for arrest operations in recent months, many of the locations ICE has identified for its warehouse jails are in Republican-leaning areas. Still, residents in many of the chosen municipalities have been trying to block ICE’s arrival.
This month, demonstrators protested warehouse conversions in New Hampshire, Utah, Texas and Georgia after the Washington Post published an earlier version of the conversion plan. In mid-January, a planned tour for contractors of a potential warehouse site in San Antonio was canceled after protesters showed up the same day, according to a person familiar with the scheduled visit. In Salt Lake City, the Ritchie Group, a local family business that owns the warehouse ICE identified as a future “mega center” jail, said it had “no plans to sell or lease the property in question to the federal government” after protesters showed up at their offices to pressure them.

Earlier in January, in Merrimack, New Hampshire, around 1,200 people protested the conversion of a warehouse owned by real estate giant CBRE. In the Village of Chester, New York, residents attended a community meeting to call on their leaders to stop ICE’s plans in any way they could. The more than 400,000-square-foot warehouse that ICE has its eyes on there is owned by the holding company of billionaire and former Trump adviser Carl Icahn.
Social Circle, Georgia, is one of the 15 locations where ICE has shared design details with contractors. Marketing materials for the warehouse there — as well as brochures for sites in Mississippi, New Hampshire, New Jersey, Texas and Pennsylvania — highlight the suitability for commerce, distribution and logistics. Some of them cite their proximity to large stores such as Walmart.
Eric Taylor, Social Circle’s city manager, said this week that he still hadn’t received any communication from federal officials about plans there for an 8,500-bed detention center. Taylor said the town of roughly 5,000 people doesn’t have the infrastructure to host the planned facility. The city has 17 sworn police officers and 14 firefighters, and its water and sewage capacity is already maxed out, Taylor said, adding that property taxes on the warehouse would drop to zero if acquired by the federal government. The building is also close to the town’s new elementary school.

Local governments are limited in what they can do to prevent ICE from opening and operating a detention facility, even if it doesn’t meet local zoning requirements. That’s because federal actions typically supersede local rules, though it can become more complicated when private companies are doing things on behalf of the federal government.
Municipalities will have other tools to stall or inhibit ICE’s work: The federal government can’t force a municipality to build a new public road or other utilities because a facility needs it. And many of the warehouses have their sewage and water systems serviced by municipalities, which means they could have a say over whether it has the capacity to meet a large jail’s demands.

The Trump administration’s push to make 3,000 immigration arrests per day — and its insistence that those adjudicating their cases do so from detention — has created an intense demand for jail space. It has gone through multiple iterations of plans to massively expand its detention capacity.
In the early days of Trump’s second term, ICE leveraged longstanding relationships with private prison companies such as CoreCivic and Geo Group to boost detention space. Those companies gave ICE access to additional beds in their existing jails, purchased and leased new facilities and reopened shuttered ones. Those companies said in November earnings calls that they still have a total of more than 30,000 beds that they could bring online, if asked by the federal government.
“We continue to believe that detention beds like these represent the best value and are the most humane, most efficient logistically, have the highest audit compliance scores in their system, are more secure, weatherproof and are readily available,” then-CoreCivic Chief Executive Officer Damon Hininger said on his company’s earnings call.

Yet, by the middle of last year, the Trump administration had pivoted to a plan that was outlined in Project 2025: using soft-sided facilities, or tents, to quickly erect new detention camps. ICE created a shortlist of potential partners, which included a number of companies that typically build emergency tent camps in the wake of natural disasters.
Two large tent camps grew out of that strategy shift: a state-run facility in the Florida Everglades nicknamed “Alligator Alcatraz” by Republicans and a federally run camp on a military base in El Paso, Texas. Both have been plagued by allegations of inhumane conditions and mismanagement.

At El Paso’s Camp East Montana, now the largest US immigration detention facility with about 3,000 people detained daily, the American Civil Liberties Union and other advocates allege a pattern of excessive force, sexual abuse and threats to coerce non-Mexican nationals to cross into the Mexican desert. ICE has denied allegations of abuse and said all people being deported are given due-process protections.
At least three people have died at the camp over the past two months. On Jan. 3, Geraldo Lunas Campos, a 55-year-old Cuban immigrant, died at the facility following a struggle with detention staff. Federal officials told the Washington Postthat officers were attempting to restrain Campos during a suicide attempt. An autopsy report later released by the El Paso County medical examiner’s office stated his death was a homicide and that he was asphyxiated after being restrained by law enforcement. On Jan. 14, Victor Manuel Diaz, 36, died in what ICE also said was a presumed suicide.
These incidents come amid a rising number of deaths in ICE detention since Trump returned to the White House. More than 30 people died in detention last year, the highest figure in two decades, and Campos and Diaz are two of the six people who have died in the agency’s custody since the beginning of the year. A report from the American Immigration Council attributes the cause of many of last year’s deaths to ICE’s failure to provide adequate medical care.
Winger, the council’s deputy legal director, said she expects dangers will persist, especially considering the capacity that ICE is planning for the new warehouse detention facilities.
“I suppose there’s ways to build enough toilets and private places,” she said. “But the various health needs of people in these facilities and ensuring that you even know who you’re holding and who has vulnerabilities and who needs medication — it just seems impossible."

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SerendipityJane · 30/01/2026 18:10

Yeah, yeah.

Another "I will believe it when I see it" story.

None of the indicators I would consider to be systemic have shifted an iota.

Lalgarh · 30/01/2026 18:12

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 30/01/2026 18:03

Hang on. That redacted wossit that shows in your post: what the frod has a criminal record in South Carolina got to do with someone else being raped in a different state? Or did I misread it?

I'm assuming it's an i-d verification. This particular case got picked out in the earlier release (she alleged her uncle killed her newborn child and was part of the trafficking ring).

Although yes they could be using it as ammo to discredit her

Lalgarh · 30/01/2026 18:24

I'm not sure if the dates of some of these reports either.

One of the complaints in that extract claim to be from someone who was involved with Epstein but "it's complicated" and who became a school counsellor, but then names a person as school principal (just tried searching for her) and says she was sacked BC the trump administration wanted her to testify against New York ex mayor Andrew Cuomo but she wouldn't do it.

If this person had gone to the police before say, 2014 then it's one thing but after Epstein was convicted and certainly after his death it becomes harder to cross check as unique testimony rather than something gleaned from news.

When the files on the zodiac killer were released they had lots and lots of near association type reports like this that didn't actually give any solid links. Still at least it's here to check now

RedTagAlan · 30/01/2026 18:46

@Spandauer

Fantastic thank you :-)

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