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What’s happening in Venezuela and what does it mean?

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theotherfossilsister · 03/01/2026 07:47

I’m confused- has the US gone to war with them? What are the implications if so?

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PrincessFiorimonde · 04/01/2026 01:38

DidIForgetPEAgain · 03/01/2026 18:24

U.S. power comes from the petrodollar - most oil worldwide is traded in U.S. dollars. Because oil is essential, this creates constant global demand for the dollar and passively props up the U.S. economy. When oil-producing countries move away from the dollar, that influence weakens, which makes Washington highly sensitive to any challenge to the system.

Venezuela has huge oil reserves and has talked about selling oil in other currencies. Saddam Hussein and Gaddafi- both pushed alternatives to the dollar for oil or gold-backed trade. Basically when leaders of oil-rich countries stray from the petrodollar, it puts them in conflict with U.S. interests. And then we hear about WMDs- or in this case cocaine as a good excuse to go in and overthrow the regime etc.

Very interesting post. As is the similar post from @BelleHathor earlier.

ResultsMayVary · 04/01/2026 01:55

ItsDarkNow · 03/01/2026 10:05

Putin and Trump have the same playbook.

They have discussed it according to a previous Trump adviser.

Dweetfidilove · 04/01/2026 02:11

Teddybear23 · 04/01/2026 00:28

GB News is the only channel where you are most likely to get the truth.

🤣🤣🤣

Puffin69 · 04/01/2026 02:46

Even if drugs were being shipped in masdive amounts that doesn't mean he is allowed to.bomb them. Protecting your borders means having good intetnal systems.

baorhausfrau · 04/01/2026 03:18

Mumtobabyhavoc · 04/01/2026 00:06

Nervous laughter re 51st state....

We would rather they become our cherished fourth territory, or basically disappear.

If you've ever seen the old 80s movie Red Dawn (only watched it for Patrick Swazey) that would be the level of resistance the American liberators would receive.

They think we are nice, polite, unarmed people. They have no idea. It's an old joke, but the Geneva Convention came about due to the Canadian military.

echt · 04/01/2026 03:24

Teddybear23 · 04/01/2026 00:28

GB News is the only channel where you are most likely to get the truth.

Yeah, right.

FFSToEverythingSince2020 · 04/01/2026 03:28

dottiehens · 03/01/2026 14:19

Ohhh that is what you heard. Cute. Must be true then. Are people really this dumb?

This is Mumsnet. Your unkindness and snark to other posters doesn’t actually make up for your lack of sources or proof. If you believe the drugs in the US are coming from Venezuela… prove it. I already provided my source that they’re not. 93% of the cocaine in the US comes from Colombia, NOT Venezuela. And fentanyl, which has caused a huge amount of deaths, comes from Mexico via China. Heroin comes from Colombia and Mexico. Trump has SPECIFICALLY said that Venezuelan boats contain fentanyl and that’s horseshite. And then there’s the fact that Trump actually was stupid enough to say this is all about oil; he’s not even trying to hide it! Oh, and the image attached shows which drugs are causing overdoses. It’s far and away synthetic opioids (fentanyl) which are the top killer and that does NOT come from Venezuela; second top killer is meth, which is either made in the US itself, or Mexico. The war on drugs was lost long ago, and the war for oil never ends.

Proof of horseshite:
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/12/09/trump-venezuela-drug-trafficking/87573189007/

Trump saying it’s about oil and “we’re going to take a tremendous amount of wealth out of the ground”:
https://fortune.com/2026/01/03/trump-venezuelan-regime-change-nicolas-maduro-oil-us-energy-companies-investment/

Source for other statements:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_drug_trade_in_the_United_States

Scientific article on the US drug problem (opioids, heroin, synthetic opioids):
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0955395919300180#:~:text=The%202000s%20began%20an%20era,Drug%20Enforcement%20Administration%2C%202015).

What’s happening in Venezuela and what does it mean?
SpidersAreShitheads · 04/01/2026 04:02

Ilovelifeverymuch · 04/01/2026 01:08

Maduro is not a legitimate leader, he lost the last election and many countries already fddm.hik not legitimate so cry me a river.

Hea a despot who terrorizes his own people proof there are millions of Venezuelans in the US on asylum. He collaborates with Colombia to traffic drugs and he destroyed the country with Chavez.

There's literally been a bounty on his head for years now and he was already indicted years ago so yes he can go to hell.

It's telling that his allies are North Korea, Iran, a China and Russia.

I don’t disagree with that.

The point is that Trump has disregarded international law, bombed another country, and taken their president essentially by force.

There are many countries whose leaders are equally as problematic as Venezuela, or arguably even worse.

Are we suggesting it’s ok for Trump to take it upon himself to depose as many of them as he chooses, appointing the US to run their country?

Or do we think he should follow international law?

This is an extremely dangerous precedent. Quite aside from the dubious reasons Trump has gotten involved - because no one here can seriously believe it’s a humanitarian mission - it opens the door for other countries to do the same.

It’s never ok for one country to unilaterally decide to take over another. But it’s worse than that, it wasn’t a country deciding to do a power grab, it was one egomaniacal man - Trump. Congress played no part in it. This is one man on an unlawful mission that’s almost certainly got corruption at its core. If we start just ignoring international laws to grab other countries as we see fit, any semblance of peace in the world will collapse.

I suspect ordinary Venezuelans are fucked either way. It’s just awful.

FFSToEverythingSince2020 · 04/01/2026 04:06

Great, great post by @BelleHathor . Thank you!

RedTagAlan · 04/01/2026 05:30

SpidersAreShitheads · 04/01/2026 04:02

I don’t disagree with that.

The point is that Trump has disregarded international law, bombed another country, and taken their president essentially by force.

There are many countries whose leaders are equally as problematic as Venezuela, or arguably even worse.

Are we suggesting it’s ok for Trump to take it upon himself to depose as many of them as he chooses, appointing the US to run their country?

Or do we think he should follow international law?

This is an extremely dangerous precedent. Quite aside from the dubious reasons Trump has gotten involved - because no one here can seriously believe it’s a humanitarian mission - it opens the door for other countries to do the same.

It’s never ok for one country to unilaterally decide to take over another. But it’s worse than that, it wasn’t a country deciding to do a power grab, it was one egomaniacal man - Trump. Congress played no part in it. This is one man on an unlawful mission that’s almost certainly got corruption at its core. If we start just ignoring international laws to grab other countries as we see fit, any semblance of peace in the world will collapse.

I suspect ordinary Venezuelans are fucked either way. It’s just awful.

I think the UN will need to move out of NY. Imagine the Danish PM turning up and being arrested, because Greenland.

Mumtobabyhavoc · 04/01/2026 05:58

baorhausfrau · 04/01/2026 03:18

We would rather they become our cherished fourth territory, or basically disappear.

If you've ever seen the old 80s movie Red Dawn (only watched it for Patrick Swazey) that would be the level of resistance the American liberators would receive.

They think we are nice, polite, unarmed people. They have no idea. It's an old joke, but the Geneva Convention came about due to the Canadian military.

I'm in YVR. 🇨🇦

OneGreySeal · 04/01/2026 06:25

Mumtobabyhavoc · 03/01/2026 23:52

I love a post using the word, hegemony. 😁
That aside, very astute. 👏

Reposting because there are still some who are pretending this is about democracy and citizens yes looking at you eastern …

EasternStandard · 04/01/2026 07:15

OneGreySeal · 04/01/2026 06:25

Reposting because there are still some who are pretending this is about democracy and citizens yes looking at you eastern …

Don’t bother looking at me ‘One’

I’m still glad the Venezuelans are celebrating and seeing that footage. Despite posters on here making it about how they think they should feel.

I wish them success despite your posts.

Vavavum · 04/01/2026 08:03

We have to wait and see what happens.

PandoraSocks · 04/01/2026 08:22

This is a good article. There are mixed reactions. Everyone is glad Maduro has gone, though, as you'd expect. Some are uneasy at the means, others feel the end justified the means. Distrust of Trump's motives. Worries about political and military instability, but also hope for the future.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/jan/03/its-impossible-not-to-feel-relief-uk-venezuelans-on-maduros-capture

‘It’s impossible not to feel relief’: UK Venezuelans on Maduro’s capture

Hope, fear and unease ripple through Britain’s Venezuelan community after US forces seized Nicolás Maduro

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/jan/03/its-impossible-not-to-feel-relief-uk-venezuelans-on-maduros-capture

FFSToEverythingSince2020 · 04/01/2026 08:28

Chenecinquantecinq · 03/01/2026 18:01

For all you communists posting on here (majority of MN) just look on line at how happy the Venezualian people are before you start hating on Trump

I think I’ll trust the actual people I know in Venezuela, VS the constant stream of photos and videos online of AMERICANS in the Venezuelan diaspora celebrating (in South Florida, Texas, etc - just like American “Cubans,” American “Venezulans” do not necessarily reflect attitudes in the original country). Not the same thing. Everyone on the ground says it’s 50/50 happiness and fear, especially as Trump has made it clear that he’ll be backing Maduro’s VP, whenever she gets back from Russia. Trump as Putin’s lapdog strikes again.
Sources:
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/venezuelans-react-to-maduros-capture-by-u-s-forces-with-mix-of-celebration-and-worry (And since someone earlier tried to derail me by questioning my source, this is the Public Broadcasting System in the US - they’re a nonprofit and Trump is trying to destroy them).
and:
https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/venezuela-vice-president-rodriguez-russia-four-sources-say-2026-01-03/

And I’m not a bloody communist. Ffs, I’m Lib Dem.

Venezuelans react to Maduro’s capture by U.S. forces with mix of celebration and worry

In Venezuela’s capital city of Caracas, crowds took to the streets Saturday after the U.S. military’s capture of Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro. Some celebrated the U.S. operation while others worried about what comes next. Ali Rogin speaks with F...

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/venezuelans-react-to-maduros-capture-by-u-s-forces-with-mix-of-celebration-and-worry

PandoraSocks · 04/01/2026 08:44

FFSToEverythingSince2020 · 04/01/2026 08:28

I think I’ll trust the actual people I know in Venezuela, VS the constant stream of photos and videos online of AMERICANS in the Venezuelan diaspora celebrating (in South Florida, Texas, etc - just like American “Cubans,” American “Venezulans” do not necessarily reflect attitudes in the original country). Not the same thing. Everyone on the ground says it’s 50/50 happiness and fear, especially as Trump has made it clear that he’ll be backing Maduro’s VP, whenever she gets back from Russia. Trump as Putin’s lapdog strikes again.
Sources:
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/venezuelans-react-to-maduros-capture-by-u-s-forces-with-mix-of-celebration-and-worry (And since someone earlier tried to derail me by questioning my source, this is the Public Broadcasting System in the US - they’re a nonprofit and Trump is trying to destroy them).
and:
https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/venezuela-vice-president-rodriguez-russia-four-sources-say-2026-01-03/

And I’m not a bloody communist. Ffs, I’m Lib Dem.

Are you a "pompous bored middle class woman" though? Apparently anyone on MN who isn't cheering Trump to the rafters is.

FFSToEverythingSince2020 · 04/01/2026 08:48

PandoraSocks · 04/01/2026 08:44

Are you a "pompous bored middle class woman" though? Apparently anyone on MN who isn't cheering Trump to the rafters is.

Oh fuck! No, I’m not! Was I supposed to be?!? Nobody told me! I could have prepared better, borrowed some money so I could buy a dress from Nobody’s Child and practice my “the rest of the world is nothing but dog shite” sneer.

PandoraSocks · 04/01/2026 08:52

FFSToEverythingSince2020 · 04/01/2026 08:48

Oh fuck! No, I’m not! Was I supposed to be?!? Nobody told me! I could have prepared better, borrowed some money so I could buy a dress from Nobody’s Child and practice my “the rest of the world is nothing but dog shite” sneer.

😁

FFSToEverythingSince2020 · 04/01/2026 09:00

PandoraSocks · 04/01/2026 08:52

😁

😂

Sadcafe · 04/01/2026 09:22

Teddybear23 · 04/01/2026 00:26

I didn’t think he got the Nobel peace prize?

He didn’t,but he desperately wants it

PinkHairbrushClub · 04/01/2026 09:25

Sadcafe · 04/01/2026 09:22

He didn’t,but he desperately wants it

He’s obviously never been told “I want never gets”.

Annteeta · 04/01/2026 09:25

Robinbauble · 03/01/2026 09:15

It means the USA is going to “establish democracy” or maybe “stop drugs” in Venezuela, while taking its oil.

They won't be establishing anything. That's far too complicated and demanding. They've probably started a civil war in Venezuela. Venezuela isn't responsible for the drug problem in the USA. More likely Trump wants the oil.

StrawberryShieldsForever · 04/01/2026 09:28

SpidersAreShitheads · 04/01/2026 04:02

I don’t disagree with that.

The point is that Trump has disregarded international law, bombed another country, and taken their president essentially by force.

There are many countries whose leaders are equally as problematic as Venezuela, or arguably even worse.

Are we suggesting it’s ok for Trump to take it upon himself to depose as many of them as he chooses, appointing the US to run their country?

Or do we think he should follow international law?

This is an extremely dangerous precedent. Quite aside from the dubious reasons Trump has gotten involved - because no one here can seriously believe it’s a humanitarian mission - it opens the door for other countries to do the same.

It’s never ok for one country to unilaterally decide to take over another. But it’s worse than that, it wasn’t a country deciding to do a power grab, it was one egomaniacal man - Trump. Congress played no part in it. This is one man on an unlawful mission that’s almost certainly got corruption at its core. If we start just ignoring international laws to grab other countries as we see fit, any semblance of peace in the world will collapse.

I suspect ordinary Venezuelans are fucked either way. It’s just awful.

International law isn’t real. A lot of your shock/horror will subside when you realize this fact (and how stupid is the UK for pointlessly impoverishing itself)

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