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What’s happening in Venezuela and what does it mean?

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theotherfossilsister · 03/01/2026 07:47

I’m confused- has the US gone to war with them? What are the implications if so?

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EasternStandard · 03/01/2026 13:52

user233675892 · 03/01/2026 12:21

Well Michael McFaul (former US ambassador to Russia) has some ideas that don't involve invading and kidnapping, but they require diplomacy, patience and allies.

michaelmcfaul.substack.com/p/democracy-in-venezuela-must-be-restored?r=17z4l&utm_medium=ios&shareImageVariant=overlay&triedRedirect=true

@mummymeisterhere

DuncinToffee · 03/01/2026 13:53

climbintheback · 03/01/2026 13:38

He has removed a tyrant who shoots dissenters to his regime in the street and who recently lost an election by a landslide but was propped up by the military and who has changed Venezuela from an oil rich democracy to a basket case - well done Mr Trump!

Two wrongs don't make a right

Maduro is a brutal and oppressive dictator of Venezuela.

Trump has no legitimate legal basis for military action against Venezuela under United States or international law.

WhitegreeNcandle · 03/01/2026 13:54

climbintheback · 03/01/2026 13:38

He has removed a tyrant who shoots dissenters to his regime in the street and who recently lost an election by a landslide but was propped up by the military and who has changed Venezuela from an oil rich democracy to a basket case - well done Mr Trump!

I don’t understand all the reasons behind this and suspect it’s oily nefariousness of some sort.

But a Venezuelan friend I met last week said the population were praying Trump would do something with the ships off their coast as he thought the population needed a bit of backing to get going with a revolutions. This man has close family and friends still in the country.

nOlives · 03/01/2026 13:58

StandFirm · 03/01/2026 13:50

Refugees are more likely to pour into Brazil from what I've read. However, interestingly, Trump doesn't like the current government in place and favours his mate Bolsonaro who may well end up benefitting from a refugee crisis in Brazil.
Ironically, I think refugees will also try and sneak into the US in vast numbers.

They shouldn't have to sneak. He created them so he can look after them. Just like he looks after all the other poor and/or brown people.
Yeah.

EasternStandard · 03/01/2026 14:00

nOlives · 03/01/2026 13:58

They shouldn't have to sneak. He created them so he can look after them. Just like he looks after all the other poor and/or brown people.
Yeah.

Do you mean Maduro isn’t the reason people are fleeing?

StandFirm · 03/01/2026 14:02

nOlives · 03/01/2026 13:58

They shouldn't have to sneak. He created them so he can look after them. Just like he looks after all the other poor and/or brown people.
Yeah.

Can't see him make them feel as welcome as the white SA farmers...

lalafox · 03/01/2026 14:02

Husband is Venezuelan and fled years ago but his parents and siblings still live there in Caracas and he sends them money every month. His mother is in poor health and relies on him for money for medication etc. They are celebrating this news this morning. This doesn’t mean everything will all of a sudden change but getting rid of maduro is a something the people have wanted for a long time.

lalafox · 03/01/2026 14:04

placemats · 03/01/2026 13:34

Plenty of people starving in the US, many without basic health care as well.

This isn’t about US. This is about the people of Venezuela

StandFirm · 03/01/2026 14:04

EasternStandard · 03/01/2026 14:00

Do you mean Maduro isn’t the reason people are fleeing?

First they fled Maduro. Now they're going to flee the ensuing chaos (which I hope against hope won't take hold).

PandoraSocks · 03/01/2026 14:05

lalafox · 03/01/2026 14:02

Husband is Venezuelan and fled years ago but his parents and siblings still live there in Caracas and he sends them money every month. His mother is in poor health and relies on him for money for medication etc. They are celebrating this news this morning. This doesn’t mean everything will all of a sudden change but getting rid of maduro is a something the people have wanted for a long time.

If the VP is still there, could that mean that the regime will continue, even though Maduro has gone?

nOlives · 03/01/2026 14:07

EasternStandard · 03/01/2026 14:00

Do you mean Maduro isn’t the reason people are fleeing?

Looking at the quote history
MO0N · Today 13:37
So more refugees to help destabilise Europe?
it would be illogical to think that the newly captured person would be the direct reason for "more refugees" so yes, I mean the USA blowing stuff up today, not the guy who's not there anymore. I think that's what MO0N meant.

tava63 · 03/01/2026 14:07

Copenhagener · 03/01/2026 10:44

My Venezuelan colleagues (all who fled the regime and desperately send money home) are celebrating this morning. They’re shocked Europeans aren’t happy for them.

They’re sad it took bombing, but they’ve been trying and failing for years to oust the illegitimate Maduro regime and are glad someone is finally helping. They hope the opposition (who won the last election) can be installed and the constitution reviewed to ensure a (faux) socialist dictatorship can’t take over ever again.

In a landslide victory Edmundo Gonzalez was elected legitimately the president of Venezuela. He should now be installed not a puppet general.
There was a very muted response by the EU but through Lavrov Russia has come out against USA actions. Just wish that coming up to four years of war in Ukraine, so many hundreds of thousands dead because of Russia’s illegal invasion of a sovereign country Trump could give the same treatment to Putin.

dottiehens · 03/01/2026 14:09

Diamondsbutnoknickers · 03/01/2026 09:14

Trump and his ego. And oil. Always oil.

As I understand it, Trump has decided that Venezuela are importing drugs into the US and it's suddenly an emergency. So the US has been attacking/seizing/blocking Venezualan boats in the Caribbean and Pacific and the strikes are an escalation of this.

Some people think it's all an excuse to overthrow the current government and claim the oil.

There are debates about whether the US is acting legally (such an odd phrase when it comes to war).

So have you been worried for the Venezuelan oil for the last 27 years? Do you know what you are talking about or just parroting the left press?

The Venezuelans are celebrating the capture of the real dictator. No one else did anything. Europe or the U.K.

PandoraSocks · 03/01/2026 14:09

nOlives · 03/01/2026 14:07

Looking at the quote history
MO0N · Today 13:37
So more refugees to help destabilise Europe?
it would be illogical to think that the newly captured person would be the direct reason for "more refugees" so yes, I mean the USA blowing stuff up today, not the guy who's not there anymore. I think that's what MO0N meant.

Colombia seems to be concerned that people will flee.

www.theguardian.com/world/2026/jan/03/colombia-sends-armed-forces-venezuela-border-concern-refugee-influx

EasternStandard · 03/01/2026 14:12

nOlives · 03/01/2026 14:07

Looking at the quote history
MO0N · Today 13:37
So more refugees to help destabilise Europe?
it would be illogical to think that the newly captured person would be the direct reason for "more refugees" so yes, I mean the USA blowing stuff up today, not the guy who's not there anymore. I think that's what MO0N meant.

They have been fleeing for some time. As said I think the author below makes good points, if what he put forward were to happen people could return.

MojoMoon · 03/01/2026 14:12

Trump was angry that Ukraine had ALLEGEDLY sent a drone one of Putin's many properties (alleged by Putin, denied by Ukraine).

But I assume on this basis, it would now be fine to go in a kidnap Putin in a military raid?

(Not that it is actually possible to do so)

Diamondsbutnoknickers · 03/01/2026 14:14

dottiehens · 03/01/2026 14:09

So have you been worried for the Venezuelan oil for the last 27 years? Do you know what you are talking about or just parroting the left press?

The Venezuelans are celebrating the capture of the real dictator. No one else did anything. Europe or the U.K.

Well obviously I spend every waking hour of every day of my life worrying about oil and other things I have zero influence or control over. Doesn't everyone?

nOlives · 03/01/2026 14:15

lalafox · 03/01/2026 14:04

This isn’t about US. This is about the people of Venezuela

Except when posters say "hurray for Trump saving all those people (in a country with oil) from starvation".
Then it is relevant to point out that he is not saving people in his own country from starvation.
Because that is clearly not his reason for bombing another (oil rich) country. He is not doing it to save the people of Venezuela from starvation, as some posters seemed to suggest.
And just to be clear, whatever the "This" in your post is about, the USA bombing Venezuela is about both the USA and Venezuela.

dottiehens · 03/01/2026 14:15

tava63 · 03/01/2026 14:07

In a landslide victory Edmundo Gonzalez was elected legitimately the president of Venezuela. He should now be installed not a puppet general.
There was a very muted response by the EU but through Lavrov Russia has come out against USA actions. Just wish that coming up to four years of war in Ukraine, so many hundreds of thousands dead because of Russia’s illegal invasion of a sovereign country Trump could give the same treatment to Putin.

Exactly this! Everyone is waiting anxiously. Venezuela libre 🇻🇪

Starship74 · 03/01/2026 14:15

CitizenZ · 03/01/2026 09:20

I think they are like 1% of the drug problem. But they have a LOT of oil. Take from that what you will.

This is what I heard too - the drugs don’t come from Venezuela!

I read google news daily and this morning was the first I heard about US and Venezuela. Was really surprised it didn’t appear in any earlier news feeds.

EasternStandard · 03/01/2026 14:17

nOlives · 03/01/2026 14:15

Except when posters say "hurray for Trump saving all those people (in a country with oil) from starvation".
Then it is relevant to point out that he is not saving people in his own country from starvation.
Because that is clearly not his reason for bombing another (oil rich) country. He is not doing it to save the people of Venezuela from starvation, as some posters seemed to suggest.
And just to be clear, whatever the "This" in your post is about, the USA bombing Venezuela is about both the USA and Venezuela.

People flee from Venezuela to the US plus other countries. I don’t think people are being realistic about what they face.

lalafox · 03/01/2026 14:18

PandoraSocks · 03/01/2026 14:05

If the VP is still there, could that mean that the regime will continue, even though Maduro has gone?

Yes it absolutely could still continue if VP is still there and the core power structures remain. There is a long way to go for Venezuela realistically. Let’s not forget trump has not done this for the benefit of Venezuelan people.

dottiehens · 03/01/2026 14:19

Starship74 · 03/01/2026 14:15

This is what I heard too - the drugs don’t come from Venezuela!

I read google news daily and this morning was the first I heard about US and Venezuela. Was really surprised it didn’t appear in any earlier news feeds.

Edited

Ohhh that is what you heard. Cute. Must be true then. Are people really this dumb?

PandoraSocks · 03/01/2026 14:20

lalafox · 03/01/2026 14:18

Yes it absolutely could still continue if VP is still there and the core power structures remain. There is a long way to go for Venezuela realistically. Let’s not forget trump has not done this for the benefit of Venezuelan people.

Thanks. I hope your DH's parents and siblings stay safe.

StandFirm · 03/01/2026 14:20

MojoMoon · 03/01/2026 14:12

Trump was angry that Ukraine had ALLEGEDLY sent a drone one of Putin's many properties (alleged by Putin, denied by Ukraine).

But I assume on this basis, it would now be fine to go in a kidnap Putin in a military raid?

(Not that it is actually possible to do so)

He'll never do that as he considers Ukraine to be in Russia's sphere of influence. The message sent to Russia for a while now is to leave LatAm to the US and he'll back off in Eastern Europe. It's not just a revival of the Monroe doctrine, it's also a new Yalta-style vision of the world with 3 blocs: The Americas + Western European vassals, Russia + former Soviet republics and satellites, China & Asia. Africa is sort of carved up between the 3 blocs depending on commercial interests.
(Btw that vision explains why he's gunning for the EU as that's totally incompatible with his new 'world order')