What's your fav bit of wisdom from tne bible?

[OrangeCatKitten]

I think mine is don't cast pearls before swine

Do not fear; for I have redeemed you. I have called you by name, you are mine. When you pass through the waters, I will be with you. And through the rivers they shall not overwhelm you.

This is written around the beautiful font in Salisbury Cathedral and I find it comforting

Nope, Exodus 21:24 " Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot"

Mosaic law. In the context of the chapter, it's equal for equal for Israelites, but it does not apply to slaves.

Exodus 21:26 :" And if a man smite the eye of his servant, or the eye of his maid, that it perish; he shall let him go free for his eye's sake. "

Knock an Isrealites eye out, and your eye is knocked out too. But knock a slaves eye out, and you have to set the slave free. This is a feature of Mosaic law, not all people are equal.

In Mathew 5:38-42, Jesus says ignore that, turn the other cheek etc.

However, just before he say that, he says Mat 5:18 " For assuredly I am saying to you , Until heaven and earth would pass-away, one iota or one serif should never pass-away from the law, until all things would become fulfilled."

Given that the law of the time was Mosaic lay, as laid down in the Pentateuch , we get a direct contradiction. Not an iota of the law will change, then straight afterwards he changes it.

But what we don't know is what " until all things would become fulfilled" means.

Ambiguity there, I think.

Sorry, to add to my above post re eye for an eye.

I think the turn the other cheek stuff is good.

However, in the very same book of Matthew, go forward to Mat 18:6 " But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea. "

So after Jesus says Mosaic law will not change one iota, then saying to ignore a specific part and turn the other cheek, now he says to use the death sentence on anyone who persuades another not to believe in him.

Confuses me.

Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow: they neither toil nor spin, yet I tell you, even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these.

“Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof”
Try not to worry about the future basically

Yeah, those Byrds are super wise

Even fairy tales have wisdom

“There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses”.

Ezekiel 23:20

Ezekiel is an interesting read for its imagery and the wisdom it imparts.

Sow the wind
Reap the whirlwind

(Hosea 8:7)

Love a bit of Hosea. He must have been a right laugh at family gatherings.

The millstone quote isn't anything to do with the death penalty though is it - it's about judgement

Exactly!

Once upon a time everything was homemade.. and we all lived happily ever after!

Ooops wrong thread... but its still a good story!

How can tying a stone around someone's neck be about judgement. He says he would prefer anyone who persuades others to not believe him to be thrown to certain death.

And this is after the turn the other cheek stuff.

A few verses after the millstone bit, he says this :

Mat 18:9 "And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire. "

Why does anyone have to be cast into hellfire ? He has told people to forgive, to turn the other cheek, yet here we have people being thrown into hell fire.

No he says it were better for him not i want you to throw such a man
Tricky thing, judgement. Everyone going to heaven sounds ideal. Though you'd be sharing heaven with Hitler and Ted Bundy, which sounds less ideal.

What Bible version has the 'not' in there ?

Here is the KJV 1611 version of Mat 18:6

But who so shall offend one of these little ones which beleeue in me, it were better for him that a milstone were hanged about his necke, and that hee were drowned in the depth of the Sea.

Litteral Standard Version, LSV -

"and whoever may cause to stumble one of those little ones who are believing in Me, it is better for him that a weighty millstone may be hanged on his neck, and he may be sunk in the depth of the sea."

International standard version, ISV-

“If anyone causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him if a large millstone were hung around his neck and he were drowned at the bottom of the sea. "

Modern literal version of 2021 MLV2021-

"But whoever offends one of these little ones who believes in me, it is more advantageous for him that a millstone, the ones rotated by a donkey, should be hung at his neck, and that he should be sunk in the deep-sea of the sea."

I have the Greek too, but that won't cut and paste.

What version has the NOT in it ?

What Bible version has the 'not' in there ?

Here is the KJV 1611 version of Mat 18:6

But who so shall offend one of these little ones which beleeue in me, it were better for him that a milstone were hanged about his necke, and that hee were drowned in the depth of the Sea.

Litteral Standard Version, LSV -

"and whoever may cause to stumble one of those little ones who are believing in Me, it is better for him that a weighty millstone may be hanged on his neck, and he may be sunk in the depth of the sea."

International standard version, ISV-

“If anyone causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him if a large millstone were hung around his neck and he were drowned at the bottom of the sea. "

Modern literal version of 2021 MLV2021-

"But whoever offends one of these little ones who believes in me, it is more advantageous for him that a millstone, the ones rotated by a donkey, should be hung at his neck, and that he should be sunk in the deep-sea of the sea."

I have the Greek too, but that won't cut and paste.

What version has the NOT in it ?

The problem will all the millstone tosh, is Jesus also says: "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone"

And as we know, none of us is without sin. Not me. Not you.

DP sorry

Yup, It's a contradiction, near everything in the Bible is a contradiction. The 4 gospels even have different accounts.

The "gospels" were cobbled together to retrospectively make Jesus fit a load of prophecies that themselves were a load of bollocks contradictory

For a religion to flourish, you have to have enough wiggle room so the message doesn't piss the powerful enough off that priests and shaman end up rather brutally defrocked. The closer you live to "the Bible" the less successful your band of Christianity will be.

So many beautiful, inspiring & reassuring quotes here. Thank you.

Its a long one, so I'll just type out the opening...

'To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:
A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted; A time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up; A time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance'

Its so wise and speaks to the rhythm and tides of life in such a beautiful way.

Be still and know that I am God

The Souls of the righteous are in the hands of God. There, no torment shall touch them. In the sight of the unwise, they are seemed to die. Their going from us annihilation, their leaving us a disaster. But they are at peace.