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Miriam Morgolyes on Graham Norton

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PuppyMonkey · 28/11/2025 23:20

Anecdote about wanking off three men in a random wood in Edinburgh or something. Everyone laughed hysterically.

Is it just me or have TV chat shows gone really downhill? Confused

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ForHazelTiger · 01/12/2025 09:25

I've just watched the show and I cannot believe I even watched the same thing as posters on here. The 'I couldn't say no' got the laugh because she was joking. She clearly wasn't really in a situation where she felt threatened. I can't believe how absurdly seriously and literally people take things on here.

cardibach · 01/12/2025 11:33

kerstina · 01/12/2025 08:49

How ironic that people think a fun, playful, independent thinking if shocking older lady with a wealth of talent might be evil. Well done to Miriam for calling out the real evil in this world that the Netanyahu government has inflicted on thousands of innocent people. I bet the people on this thread calling her vile and evil are the same ones who defend stuff like this. Honestly the world has gone completely bonkers!

This is a bit of a silly comment. I’m not sure who has said ‘evil’ - it’s very different from ‘vile’ - but to suggest that finding repeated dirty stories told purely to shock (and which dont shock anyway) boring and unpleasant means you would support genocide is barking.

MamaToABeautifulBoy · 01/12/2025 21:57

MM is not a likeable woman and anything featuring her on TV gets turned over in our house.

BatshitOutofHell · 02/12/2025 07:52

ForHazelTiger · 29/11/2025 13:20

Having a women on the screen who is old, fat, not conventionally attractive, not apologetic, talks about how much money she earns, and tells filthy stories is all very, very taboo in our society. It's all excellent stuff.

The old, fat etc thing I don’t mind. But the wanking stuff was beyond the pale. A taboo breaker would have been her talking about the great sex she has/had with her woman partner. I bet they wouldn’t encourage her to talk about that on the show.

Carla786 · 02/12/2025 08:54

BatshitOutofHell · 02/12/2025 07:52

The old, fat etc thing I don’t mind. But the wanking stuff was beyond the pale. A taboo breaker would have been her talking about the great sex she has/had with her woman partner. I bet they wouldn’t encourage her to talk about that on the show.

Edited

Tbf having a partner who lives mostly in Amsterdam (to get some peace?) would get in the way..

Exactly: it makes no sense to say she's breaking taboos for lesbians when any sexual stuff she talks about is oddly with men.

CurlewKate · 02/12/2025 09:01

Miriam Margolyes has so many fantastic anecdotes about so many famous people, but people only seem to watch her saying cunt. Which is a shame.

CurlewKate · 02/12/2025 09:07

And she’s not taboo breaking. If she was, a few taboos would have been broken and she would no longer be wheeled out as a kind of circus show “Come and Watch the Incredible Old Woman who says Cunt”

ScreamingBeans · 02/12/2025 10:08

ForHazelTiger · 30/11/2025 16:07

I do wonder how many people here manage to maintain relationships with relatives and friends in real life who have flaws and sometimes say the wrong thing. I think they probably don't, as spewing hate online is pretty much always a sign of loneliness. There are people I don't like in the public eye but unless they are abusers or serial killers I wouldn't go online to say they are 'vile' and 'repulsive'. It's pretty extreme (and these threads are always about women).

I also think the people mentioning MM's appearance and weight in a negative way need to take a look at themselves. Pretty awful.

<sigh>

Commenting on someone's performance, conversation, appearance, opinions or behaviour is not hate.

Even if the commentary is bitchy, nasty, unsparing, unwilling to give someone the benefit of the doubt, etc. it's not hate.

This modern habit of defining everything that's disagreeable as hate, is not only thoughtless and slightly moronic, it is actually dangerous.

Hatred is an incredibly powerful emotion. The word hate should be reserved for really serious situations. Hate is when you want to do real damage to somebody, you want to kill them or make them suffer.

Finding them irritating enough to switch channels doesn't come close to what hate means.

If everyone casually uses that word about everyone they disagree with, not only does it become more difficult to recognize actual dangerous hate when you see it, but it creates social conditions which make real life much more dangerous as people write each other off as people who hate them. I would avoid anyone who hates me because I would assume that they are dangerous to me.

Please can we stop being so hyperbolic in our language. Mumsnet used to be a place where people were careful about how they expressed themselves and it was one of the reasons it was an oasis of intelligent conversation in the idiocy of the internet.

I haven't seen any expressions of hatred against MM . I've seen distaste, dislike, boredom, revulsion, but no one has expressed a wish to see her suffer or die or wished any harm on her, which is what you do if you actually hate someone.

Sorry to go on but it's a pet hate of mine, (see what I did there?) this dangerous and fascistic characterization of disagreement as hate. I wish people would be more adult and stop doing it.

Lafamiliaestodo · 02/12/2025 10:57

ScreamingBeans · 02/12/2025 10:08

<sigh>

Commenting on someone's performance, conversation, appearance, opinions or behaviour is not hate.

Even if the commentary is bitchy, nasty, unsparing, unwilling to give someone the benefit of the doubt, etc. it's not hate.

This modern habit of defining everything that's disagreeable as hate, is not only thoughtless and slightly moronic, it is actually dangerous.

Hatred is an incredibly powerful emotion. The word hate should be reserved for really serious situations. Hate is when you want to do real damage to somebody, you want to kill them or make them suffer.

Finding them irritating enough to switch channels doesn't come close to what hate means.

If everyone casually uses that word about everyone they disagree with, not only does it become more difficult to recognize actual dangerous hate when you see it, but it creates social conditions which make real life much more dangerous as people write each other off as people who hate them. I would avoid anyone who hates me because I would assume that they are dangerous to me.

Please can we stop being so hyperbolic in our language. Mumsnet used to be a place where people were careful about how they expressed themselves and it was one of the reasons it was an oasis of intelligent conversation in the idiocy of the internet.

I haven't seen any expressions of hatred against MM . I've seen distaste, dislike, boredom, revulsion, but no one has expressed a wish to see her suffer or die or wished any harm on her, which is what you do if you actually hate someone.

Sorry to go on but it's a pet hate of mine, (see what I did there?) this dangerous and fascistic characterization of disagreement as hate. I wish people would be more adult and stop doing it.

This is SO well said.

I dislike MM and find her a bit repulsive to listen to but I certainly dont "hate" her or wish her any personal harm.

Hate is such a strong word and I dont actively hate anyone apart from maybe people who abuse those who are vulnerable in our society- like children, the elderly and animals.

Hate takes a lot of energy and anger and I woudnt waste it on someone like MM because there isnt any reason to have that depth of feeling towards her. I just roll my eyes when I see her and think she's a bit gross. Thats not hate and labelling at such is not only a ridiculous overreaction but you're right - its dangerous and really rather ignorant.

TorroFerney · 02/12/2025 11:21

I just saw a clip on facebook of her at a read through for a play. Where they sit round a big table. She’s I assume been asked to introduce herself, says her name her age and that she’s a lesbian. Do the last two things matter? Surely your age and who you fancy/have sex with is the least interesting thing about you.

GiveTheDogAPringle · 02/12/2025 11:29

The stories of wanking off random men in trees etc are just ick. It’s not that I think it’s shocking, it’s more that it’s just really fucking weird to do and then tell the world. She’s just an attention seeker and overall a very strange woman.

GiveTheDogAPringle · 02/12/2025 11:36

Umy15r03lcha1 · 29/11/2025 16:01

She usually successfully shocks stuffy American guests who can't believe what they're hearing. GN books her for a reason.

Guests are ‘stuffy’ because they think wtf about someone telling stories about wanking off random men in trees? Being shocked/appalled/thinking wtf when hearing her say these things is not stuffy and has nothing to do with being American either, it’s called not being creepy, strange and inappropriate. Totally normal to think wtf did I just listen to.

EstherGreenwood63 · 02/12/2025 12:38

I think she's great. 🤩

LBFseBrom · 02/12/2025 18:13

EstherGreenwood63 · 02/12/2025 12:38

I think she's great. 🤩

So do I and the Norton show is on very late at night, no children watching.

BoxingHares22 · 02/12/2025 18:31

What do you think is great about her?

cardibach · 02/12/2025 18:56

LBFseBrom · 02/12/2025 18:13

So do I and the Norton show is on very late at night, no children watching.

I’m not a child. Still don’t want to watch repeated and exaggerated sex stories from someone who thinks she’s very clever and funny for telling them.

BoxingHares22 · 02/12/2025 19:27

cardibach · 02/12/2025 18:56

I’m not a child. Still don’t want to watch repeated and exaggerated sex stories from someone who thinks she’s very clever and funny for telling them.

Especially when they don’t cast her in a good light

cucumberpeach · 02/12/2025 21:18

I feel a bit sorry for people on this thread. I wonder if they also take life very seriously and struggle to see the joy in things? I can totally understand why MM's stories wouldn't be some people's cup of tea, but the idea it's just 'toilet humour' is way off.

cardibach · 02/12/2025 21:49

cucumberpeach · 02/12/2025 21:18

I feel a bit sorry for people on this thread. I wonder if they also take life very seriously and struggle to see the joy in things? I can totally understand why MM's stories wouldn't be some people's cup of tea, but the idea it's just 'toilet humour' is way off.

Nope. Don’t take life seriously at all. Have plenty of joy in lots of things. Just don’t find repeated and obviously embellished sex stories amusing.
Edit; toilet humour would be preferable, though still not funny. Where do you find joy in her stories?

cucumberpeach · 02/12/2025 22:10

cardibach · 02/12/2025 21:49

Nope. Don’t take life seriously at all. Have plenty of joy in lots of things. Just don’t find repeated and obviously embellished sex stories amusing.
Edit; toilet humour would be preferable, though still not funny. Where do you find joy in her stories?

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She's a woman in the public eye who just doesn't give a fuck. I find that immensely pleasing. As do many people evidently or she wouldn't keep getting invited onto these shows and asked to tell her stories. The po faced idea that she is somehow letting herself down and why doesn't she want to seem intelligent - confident people don't go around worrying about whether they seem intelligent or not! She is a bit rude, but the things people have said on here are 😮

cucumberpeach · 02/12/2025 22:16

Arregaithel · 29/11/2025 06:39

For all the consternation, the absolute beauty of this thread is that Miriam, herself, would not give a hoot 😆

This! Love a woman who doesn't care what anybody thinks

GiveTheDogAPringle · 02/12/2025 22:18

cucumberpeach · 02/12/2025 22:10

She's a woman in the public eye who just doesn't give a fuck. I find that immensely pleasing. As do many people evidently or she wouldn't keep getting invited onto these shows and asked to tell her stories. The po faced idea that she is somehow letting herself down and why doesn't she want to seem intelligent - confident people don't go around worrying about whether they seem intelligent or not! She is a bit rude, but the things people have said on here are 😮

She does give a fuck though. She’s an attention seeker. People who don’t give a fuck wouldn’t tell personal stories for ‘likes’. She’s one of those ‘I’m mad I am’ people, who are always the opposite of ‘not giving a fuck’ and are constantly performing for others.

Sarover · 02/12/2025 22:24

GiveTheDogAPringle · 02/12/2025 22:18

She does give a fuck though. She’s an attention seeker. People who don’t give a fuck wouldn’t tell personal stories for ‘likes’. She’s one of those ‘I’m mad I am’ people, who are always the opposite of ‘not giving a fuck’ and are constantly performing for others.

This absolutely. She’s a bit like a pick me cool girl or 1990s style ladette trying to catch the attention of men. It’s like deep down she feels that as an older lesbian woman she’s of not interest to the men unless she gets crude. About sex with men. It’s strange. Why no anecdotes about sex with women?

cucumberpeach · 02/12/2025 22:24

GiveTheDogAPringle · 02/12/2025 22:18

She does give a fuck though. She’s an attention seeker. People who don’t give a fuck wouldn’t tell personal stories for ‘likes’. She’s one of those ‘I’m mad I am’ people, who are always the opposite of ‘not giving a fuck’ and are constantly performing for others.

Good luck finding anyone in showbiz who isn't an attention seeker 😅

cucumberpeach · 02/12/2025 22:25

Sarover · 02/12/2025 22:24

This absolutely. She’s a bit like a pick me cool girl or 1990s style ladette trying to catch the attention of men. It’s like deep down she feels that as an older lesbian woman she’s of not interest to the men unless she gets crude. About sex with men. It’s strange. Why no anecdotes about sex with women?

I think this is a total misreading of her