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Labour isn't working - Thread 22

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TheNuthatch · 26/11/2025 19:56

A chat thread for those who don't like this Labour government. 💙

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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TheNuthatch · 29/11/2025 22:05

@redange Crist on a bike. 3 hours!
Firstly, you have a dh problem, but I think you already know that, judging by this and some of your other posts. Flowers
Second, your dc are old enough to respect some ground rules. I also have 3 dc, one boy, two girls. Youngest is at 6th form. One dd has SEND, including autism.
There is no way I would ever tolerate a three hour slanging match in our home - ever. I'm quite old-school. I demand that they are either civil, or silent. At least in my presence. If they can't do that, they can stay in their rooms. My dds have perfected having a go at each other in whispers to avoid my wrath. 😂
You don't have to listen to it, go nuclear if you have to. Living in a war zone is not good for anyone. The same rules apply to ALL the dc, NT and ND. You must try to not take sides wherever possible.
Your ds should not have gone for your dd like that, I'm not surprised that she retaliated tbh. It sounds more like pure jealousy from your ds to me, rather than misogyny, but I don't doubt that he's learning some awful lessons from your dh. If your dh doesn't give a shit, you will have to try and teach him that it's wrong to treat women that way, easier said than done I know.
I promise you faithfully that your ds is perfectly capable of either celebrating his sister's success, or keeping his gob shut and taking himself off for a breather. That is a life lesson that he needs to learn, ND or not. Been there, got the T shirt with my dd.
Send them a WhatsApp telling them that it will not be tolerated again, and mean it. Good luck 💙

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GroundZero · 29/11/2025 22:06

I genuinely think Reeves goes next week.

Evidently it’s a fast-developing story.

TheNuthatch · 29/11/2025 22:12

Upstartled · 29/11/2025 21:24

Starmer and Reeves do not care about fixing Britain: their Budget proves it

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/be86f5df9f374d58

Kemi in the Telegraph. Brilliant piece actually and reflects the concerns of the struggling tax payer and the 'quiet betrayal of the those who follow the rules'.

Great article 👏

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redange · 29/11/2025 22:15

Thanks Nuthatch:. 'I did not want to post my story today on a created thread due to the answers i might have got'

TheNuthatch · 29/11/2025 22:16

GroundZero · 29/11/2025 22:06

I genuinely think Reeves goes next week.

Evidently it’s a fast-developing story.

I can't work out whether Labour MPs are happy with the budget or not. I bet their inboxes are heaving with complaints, could shift the dial.

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TheNuthatch · 29/11/2025 22:17

redange · 29/11/2025 22:15

Thanks Nuthatch:. 'I did not want to post my story today on a created thread due to the answers i might have got'

I understand, no probs.
Teenagers are feckin shits in my experience 😂

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Julen7 · 29/11/2025 22:21

TheNuthatch · 29/11/2025 22:16

I can't work out whether Labour MPs are happy with the budget or not. I bet their inboxes are heaving with complaints, could shift the dial.

I expect they were, they pretty much got what they wanted (unlike most of the rest of us) and they were waving their order papers like crazy over the 2 child benefit cap being lifted.

GroundZero · 29/11/2025 22:27

Julen7 · 29/11/2025 22:21

I expect they were, they pretty much got what they wanted (unlike most of the rest of us) and they were waving their order papers like crazy over the 2 child benefit cap being lifted.

I agree.

The pressure is mainly exogenous.

That said -

One Labour MP insisted Ms Reeves must appear before the Commons on Monday – rather than sending a junior minister – “so we can have clarity on the issue”.

A second backbencher told The Telegraph that it was hard to see how both Ms Reeves and Sir Keir could continue in their posts.
They said: “It really does feel at the moment that Starmer could run across a road and rescue a dog from a lorry and still get the blame for something.
“They’re at that stage, and it’s how to see how they come back from it. We’re managing decline where people are crying out for real change. This is the worst Labour Government in recorded history.”
A third MP added: “The Chancellor is in deep trouble. It’s important to be straight with the public.”

TheNuthatch · 29/11/2025 22:29

Julen7 · 29/11/2025 22:21

I expect they were, they pretty much got what they wanted (unlike most of the rest of us) and they were waving their order papers like crazy over the 2 child benefit cap being lifted.

Yeh I saw that too. They clapped and cheered when Reeves announced the cuts to WFA too, until they felt the wrath of their constituents. I wonder how many of them are fuming at the u turn on employment rights.🤔

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redange · 29/11/2025 22:51

Ok then why don't even one of these Labour resign the Party Whip and sit as an'independent' MP. They, are gutless and frightened of the Unions or what jobs they will get when its over for them.

redange · 29/11/2025 22:52

'Labourites'

redange · 29/11/2025 22:53

Syntax Error Hour !

TheRubyRedshoes · 30/11/2025 08:06

Talk of reeves indulging in criminal activity this am

Insider dealing , manipulating the markets as well as lying.

CambridgeSingers · 30/11/2025 08:19

@redange completely agree with @TheNuthatch my two square up to each other like a pair of prize chickens at this time of year (both ND). I don’t get too into who said what (and they can be terribly mean), and make it clear I’m not interested because overall the behaviour was just bad from both of them. Even if, one of them is usually more in the right, because getting into that loses the point that they were in a crappy mood and took it out on other people.

if they’ve been particularly mean, I make them do something nice for their sibling….

CambridgeSingers · 30/11/2025 08:22

@TheRubyRedshoes yoy know what Labour certainly haven’t done? Restored any faith in politicians being sensible.

so far we’ve had them blaming and discrediting experts (bank of England, OBR), ignoring tax experts and policy economists (ifs, dan Neidle), and pandering to their deluded populist back benchers. Oh and scandal after scandal,
fiddle after fiddle, and from the top team not a few rogues.

I’m sure reform would take all of this to new heights but this was hardly the ticket they ran on, was it?

AlexandraBee · 30/11/2025 08:25

EasternStandard · 29/11/2025 18:30

Totally. If you’re sitting in a house that’s inflated and ex public sector with a pension you’re in a group who want to maintain that advantage. It’s not a moral high ground at all.

This won’t help either

Working families £18k worse off than benefit claimants after Budget

Parent would need £71k wage to match jobless household’s income after Reeves’s welfare spending, research finds

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Where’s that research @EasternStandard?
Only cos I’d like to quote it x

EasternStandard · 30/11/2025 08:29

AlexandraBee · 30/11/2025 08:25

Where’s that research @EasternStandard?
Only cos I’d like to quote it x

Hi I haven’t read it but that line is a Telegraph headline, they say where in the article here it is:

Families on modest incomes will be £18,000 worse off than jobless parents claiming benefits following Rachel Reeves’s abolition of the two-child cap in the Budget, an analysis has found.

A family with three children that has at least one parent claiming the average rates of Universal Credit (UC), combined with other benefits, will receive up to £46,000 by next year, according to the Centre for Social Justice (CSJ).

That compares with the £28,000 take-home earnings of a family where one adult is working full-time, and another part-time, on the national living wage.

EasternStandard · 30/11/2025 08:30

Starmer is going to ‘address the nation’ over the budget and back Reeves. Tomorrow apparently.

He really is bad at reading the room, he’ll make things worse for Labour.

SpaceRaccoon · 30/11/2025 08:32

Aye that'll do it. Clown.

NoWordForFluffy · 30/11/2025 08:33

EasternStandard · 30/11/2025 08:30

Starmer is going to ‘address the nation’ over the budget and back Reeves. Tomorrow apparently.

He really is bad at reading the room, he’ll make things worse for Labour.

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They're a lame duck government and the country will suffer over the next 3.5 years as they keep fucking it up.

But a GE now is a scary thought if the polls re Reform are accurate, because I'm really not convinced we'd be in any better position with them (might be worse).

AlexandraBee · 30/11/2025 08:36

EasternStandard · 30/11/2025 08:30

Starmer is going to ‘address the nation’ over the budget and back Reeves. Tomorrow apparently.

He really is bad at reading the room, he’ll make things worse for Labour.

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😂😂🙈 Like he backed Angela. Like he backed the others. Like he thinks some women have a penis. As if anyone gives a shit what human bollard says. 🤢

twistyizzy · 30/11/2025 08:39

EasternStandard · 30/11/2025 08:30

Starmer is going to ‘address the nation’ over the budget and back Reeves. Tomorrow apparently.

He really is bad at reading the room, he’ll make things worse for Labour.

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The fact he even has to do this!

They really don't understand how noone believes a word they say do they? 100% he will make it worse so bring it on!

AlexandraBee · 30/11/2025 08:41

Ok I’m bracing to watch LK. I can’t help it.. 20 mins from now, I’m going in..

twistyizzy · 30/11/2025 08:42

AlexandraBee · 30/11/2025 08:41

Ok I’m bracing to watch LK. I can’t help it.. 20 mins from now, I’m going in..

Thank you for taking one for the team 🙏

NoWordForFluffy · 30/11/2025 08:48

twistyizzy · 30/11/2025 08:42

Thank you for taking one for the team 🙏

I cancelled my TV licence so unfortunately can't be a team player in this regard! 🤣🤣