Labour isn't working - Thread 22

[TheNuthatch]

A chat thread for those who don't like this Labour government. 💙

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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Market manipulation is fraud.

What was this?

At least she lives out her communist ideology.

I assume she personally houses and funds some of the Calais lads in her own home too?

😂😂😂

Ooh "Calais Lads' is good. We're not allowed to say 'boat people' anymore according to the queen bees of MN.

They usually say that they don't have space to house migrants themselves. 🙄

It made me laugh too. Just so bad 😬

I am trying with another family member to not gloat too much at another family member that voted Labour. It's so difficult.

I said why the heck did you think J K Rowling a former Labour donor told people not to vote for them!?

They admitted early on they were scammed and it's just taking others longer to realise. I don't blame them, it happens to most people at some point.

The manifesto was a lie, I can't get annoyed at them, many mean well.

In 'there's always a tweet' news...

paul Johnson and Helen miller started to have Reeves’s number when she ‘discovered’ the black hole but they’re at exasperation point.
the thing is reeves made much of her credentials as an economist, but she’s only used them to lie to us…

The black hole was insanity. To use that lie was so bad.

if any of you clever folks have any recommendations for reading, I am a bit lost at the moment

I am the proud owner of an Economics A-level 😂 but I don't really remember the stuff that I need to remember. A lot of things we covered should come to the front of my mind immediately, but I'm afraid it doesn't and I'm starting to feel quite lost when reading anything in the FT.

I can remember huge chunks of Shakespeare to recite word for word - but that's not the stuff I need to remember right now! (and unless Dame Judi Dench puts me on the spot for some reason, I can't think what it would be useful).

Yes I have memory holes also in so many things. It's AI it makes our brains atrophy, due to algorithms, GPS and predictive text.

Someone pointed out the other day that in the analogue world we had a phone box and phone numbers memorised.

I can't remember so many rules for literacy also from school.

I decided after watching Tucker Carlson and Piers Morgan that I am going to use my children's great grandmother as a muse. I want us to get back to the way she as an English woman before the boomer atheist hedonistic culture ruined us. I spoke to them about her language, how despite being sick and old how she presented.

Going back over school stuff is a good idea too. Maps no GPS, filing cabinets, I am going as much as I can back to analogue.

I do two or three crosswords a day. Read every evening. Just to keep up my powers of concentration. If I want to watch a programme ignore my phone totally. My memory for dates, numbers is still functioning.

My DH puts on a programme he wants and is drawn back to his phone tablet. He can't recall a single date, they're stored in his phone calendar. He can't concentrate on a book. Couldn't do a crossword. His memory is swiss cheese which does worry me.

There’s a thread now running about “who works hardest” or some ilk. As much as I now enjoying a thread where teachers are heralded (as much as they can be on MN), I hate careers pitted against each other.

Try one of Thomas Sowell’s books:

Basic Economics: a common sense guide to the economy

Economic Facts and Fallacies

I did post to say that UPS teachers are now higher rate tax payers but 14 years ago I was mainscale with TLR and a basic rate payer but it was ignored.

We can but hope.

I’ve seen a lot of attacks on Kemi for being too personal. 🙄
No one seemed bothered when she was sneered at week after week at PMQs. I think RR got what she deserved. It’s true, she blames everyone else.

Yeh there’s a Kemi thread that is typical Labour mn.

Starmer is a weak bully every PMQs

Her DH holds a quite senior position in the BBC. 🙄

That’s because people hate teachers on here (in general). They only pretend to like us on threads like that when we can be used to prove a point against those big, mean higher earners.

It’s even worse when the retired teachers on here, get on your case for not following the left, unionised way!

Perish the thought; she can talk, for sure, but she definitely wouldn't be interested in walking the talk. It's so obviously performative.

@ThePolarEspresso @justasking111

I agree - I suppose, like Sherlock, the brain is going to keep things it wants to keep and things it considers important - though the latter can be very strange sometimes!

That said, if we are just being lied to by the treasury, that explains my more recent memory hole of economics. Perhaps my brain just can't compute the gaslighting. Are we being lied to about this black hole or not? My mum says we are being totally lied to and have been from the start.

I remember attending one of Jonathan Safran Foer's talks on "the end of remembering" and being completely horrified. I think he talks about it quite a lot in his books. Now I have become that person!

I can still sit down and watch television or film without interruption. I don't understand people who watch TV and scroll. But scrolling has definitely cut into my reading time.

I'm not quite sure what to do with my social media. On the one hand, I don't think it's doing any me good. On the other hand, there is a lot of useful stuff I wouldn't know without it.

Some of you might know that Peter Whittle sadly died yesterday. He is someone about who I would know nothing if it wasn't for social media. I thought what he did was very valuable and he made me feel better and less lost.

I posted on the old thread (just before it closed) saying I'm not sure if I should join some political organisations or something.

I used to use social media for fun - Twitter was hilarious back in the day. I ended up meeting people through it.

I don't want my own social media account to be full of politics, but I no longer do the things I used to use it for. I have a tiny closed account but used to have a big account with some quite significant followers (I shut it down during lockdown).

I'm now getting the impression that there are more people out there who feel as I do about certain things. I'm willing to be open minded about politics and I don't believe it should be a factor in friendships, but people on the left are likely to absolutely despise me.

Sorry, that was a long pondering. There's a bit of me that thinks it would do me good to come off social media. I have been on here less in the last couple of weeks. But I also wouldn't have that sense of a turning tide... and I don't have a lot of company in real life, so having people to chat to on social media does help.

@Pacificsunshine thank you, that's really helpful.

Tbf, DH - as a PE teacher - dosses around in my eyes so the teacher haters are quite fair in that respect.

I need to stay off that thread.
Red mist 🙈