Tax TAx TAX!!!!!! Fuming at our government!

[Baldylovingbeard]

please try and convince me otherwise…..

What a joke this government are!!! ( UK)

Let’s just tax everyone who earns a bit of cash!!! Oh and while we’re at it… go on have loads more children it’s ok others will pay for them!!! Cutting the 2child benefit cap! If you decide to have multiple children you should be able to afford to provide for them. NOT expect others too!!!!! If you fall on hard times and you’ve worked and contributed to paying tax than you are within your rights to claim tax this is what benefits were made for, it’s not a means to not work, have more kids….etc!

Oh and if you work really hard and want to put some money by for you later days in life…. You’ll be taxed!

My situation:
Part time work, full time mum to 1 child. I work for myself and earn around 10k this money usually pays for things our daughter needs… clothes, clubs, any treats.
Husband works long hours, his under a lot of stress with his job, he has worked his way to and earns a very good salary 100k he gets taxed 60% you do the maths on that! We live in a 3 bed around £280k so nothing crazy but live within our means. We have one car! One holiday a year! Put money into savings! Pension! our daughter goes to one after school club. My husband got kicked out of home at 16…. He has worked with no help from family or friends and I believe he has worked very hard to get to where he is now. we are generous with charity’s and try our best to help out when we can if we can!

Sorry. I don’t understand which part you’re confused by.

I do actually.

If I go for promotion, I don’t want to share my money.

So I won’t go for promotion.

I think if someone is working, then the money they earn is theirs.

I simply don’t want give other people the money I have worked for

But your tax is doing that exactly now eg paying for the state pension for pensioners.

I think if someone is working, then the money they earn is theirs.

So no education, healthcare, infrastructure, state pension, childcare etc?

but if her relationship breaks down, she will do.

Some will have more kids because they can now get more money in benefits for them.
Thats not going to get any family out of poverty.
We have a system to help but some will abuse it.

I know. And I don’t like it.

100% with you. We're the same.

Shall I say it louder for those at the back, EVEN WHEN YOU PAY MORE TAX YOU STILL HAVE MORE MONEY. So a promotion would still benefit you.
They’re not taxing every penny you earn, ffs.

An opinion you don't like, by the looks of it.

@Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim im
confused as to why euthanasia over a care home will save lots of money? For one not everyone ends up in a care home & they are often self funded. Which bit confused you?

The problem with many saying they have voted Labour all their life is that in the lifetime of a large % of MNers there has never been a real Labour government, you're experiencing what a lot of us experienced in the 60s and 70s. when dogma ruled.

Can you actually explain why voting is only for men in your opinion @YorkshireGoldDrinker?

Join the club.

My PILs were talking about this a few years ago and my FIL gently informed MIL that none of the money in her pension came from her earnings and that her kids are paying into it. The colour drained from her face a little bit. Understandable given the whole "I've paid in my whole life!" she'd said for years up to that point.

They can keep 10% or thereabouts for education and military etc. Isn’t that the rate in the US. Probably less to be fair.
10% is reasonable.

Then I’ll put my £5000 extra towards some really good, efficient private health care for myself. I already pay another £500 a month private pension, so scrap the state and NI.
I don’t need childcare.

Which services are being denied to those "paying in" that other can access?

children are growing up in poverty. I'd rather live in a decent society

I would like to see money paid to families is used wisely, there are huge discrepancies in how families with the same income choose to live. It's naive to suggest that children are always their parents' number one priority.

I understand what you’re saying. But for example, when that promotion is split across all the days of the year and you realise you’re only getting a extra £15 a day for all that additional responsibility and time…well it’s not worth it is it, even if my pay packet has an extra £300 in it a month. It’s relative.

Will you pay for your education and birth?

How so? Presumably, he’s a father who is funding his own family, rather than fathering children who he expects the taxpayer to subsidise?

Of course, out of my generous 10% contribution.

40 years paying 10% is more than sufficient to cover MY education and MY birth.

And private road, refuse collector, no using public transport or libraries.

10% should cover it all. I don’t use public transport or libraries.

10% of £55000 would be £5500 or £460 a month. More than adequate to cover my uses.

In the US they pay way less in income tax. Some states are income tax free, and VAT is only about 7%.

I dont think this is right - we must trust the parents to do the right thing with the extra cash. If they have made the decision to have a larger family, it’s because they are in a loving and stable relationship etc. They will allocate the money to raise their children properly.

We must have faith in this.

Well, I don't enjoy getting flamed, hence most of my opinions never make it to the keyboard, so I respectfully decline. Sorry.