Tax TAx TAX!!!!!! Fuming at our government!

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please try and convince me otherwise…..

What a joke this government are!!! ( UK)

Let’s just tax everyone who earns a bit of cash!!! Oh and while we’re at it… go on have loads more children it’s ok others will pay for them!!! Cutting the 2child benefit cap! If you decide to have multiple children you should be able to afford to provide for them. NOT expect others too!!!!! If you fall on hard times and you’ve worked and contributed to paying tax than you are within your rights to claim tax this is what benefits were made for, it’s not a means to not work, have more kids….etc!

Oh and if you work really hard and want to put some money by for you later days in life…. You’ll be taxed!

My situation:
Part time work, full time mum to 1 child. I work for myself and earn around 10k this money usually pays for things our daughter needs… clothes, clubs, any treats.
Husband works long hours, his under a lot of stress with his job, he has worked his way to and earns a very good salary 100k he gets taxed 60% you do the maths on that! We live in a 3 bed around £280k so nothing crazy but live within our means. We have one car! One holiday a year! Put money into savings! Pension! our daughter goes to one after school club. My husband got kicked out of home at 16…. He has worked with no help from family or friends and I believe he has worked very hard to get to where he is now. we are generous with charity’s and try our best to help out when we can if we can!

why lucky? OP didn't draw her DH in a lottery, she made a choice to marry a man who can support her and DC

I hate her and her party. Hate is a strong word but truly.

@BoredZelda
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Everything is taxed, except the air we breathe for now. And if it's not taxed, it'll be retroactively taxed and regulated to all hell.

Regulation helps stuff grow, right? Right?! No, no, it really, really doesn't.

Oh well. We'll survive. Maybe.

As for those who actually enjoy being taxed, as in they look at their payslip, throw their hands up in the air and exclaim "I really don't pay anywhere NEAR enough tax! I should be paying MORE!" (categorically never happens) I have no words for them as it's a depth of stupidity never plumbed.

She’s not wrong in that is she. I’m in a £200k 3 bed semi, band E council tax. During Covid people in million pound houses in the south east got a rebate on council tax as they were band C! Total piss take.

I don’t agree with the 2 child cap being removed as you don’t get more salary just because you choose to have more kids so why should you get more handouts

Agree with you op. I’m done with Labour, but hate Conservative, doesn’t leave much choice now.

You’re not alone.

No one enjoys being taxed but some of us appreciate it’s the cost of living in society.

I'm a high rate tax payer and my husband is not. We live in a pretty cheap part of the country by choice and I count us as incredibly lucky to earn what we do. We have no issues living within our means, and I can't see anything in the latest budget which is particularly concerning. I'm relatively new to the higher rate bracket, and I don't really have an issue paying more because I earn more.

It sounds like I'm in the minority from social media reaction though.

I am well aware of that, it's exactly what I said.

OP implied she thought his whole salary would be taxed at 60%. Which is not true at all. None of his 100k salary will be taxed at 60%, effective or otherwise.

Enjoy, appreciate.... both are relative terms to indicate a lack of anger at the state helping itself to the money you've exchanged your time to earn.

We have an ageing society, a poorer one, a sicker one. No one wants to pay more though but they don’t want anything taken away from themselves either. Someone else should lose out & someone else should pay. I want the burden to be better spread so don’t object to higher CT for ££££ properties.

Same and I live in Scotland where I pay a lot more in tax than I would in England. And I don’t earn anything like £100k

The number of children in poverty is calculated based on the number of households below a 60% of median household income. It does not take into account child's actual living conditions. So two households with the same income, one having one child and another one six kids will have very different experiences but classified the same.

By increasing public sector pay and NMW Labour increased median household income, means those not getting benefits from such increases slipped down the scale. It's maths really.

And to your point about fertility rates - I don't think it's correct, fertility rates are declining. I agree that those breeders won't care if they can provide for their kids or not, but giving them more money is such a wrong way of approaching it

I do think NI & income tax should be rolled into one & the cliff edges sorted out. higher earners on PAYE are disproportionately impacted but I suppose they are the easiest to target.

How else do things get paid for but for taxes?

We”ve had taxes for ever, childish tantrums aren’t going to help. And if you think you’d be any better off under the Tories or Reform I have news for you

Is society older, poorer and sicker as a direct result of your actions? Or is that all a direct result of previous bad policy-making? I guess if you voted for this government, it's at least partially on you and everyone else who voted the same way.

Research here:

https://www.lse.ac.uk/news/latest-news-from-lse/d-apr-22/two-child-benefit-limit
https://cpag.org.uk/news/has-two-child-limit-affected-how-many-children-families-have

I don't vote for people who hate me. Although Reform is looking set to replace this failing government and hopefully everything blows up in Labour's lap beforehand.

And to your point about fertility rates - I don't think it's correct, fertility rates are declining. I agree that those breeders won't care if they can provide for their kids or not, but giving them more money is such a wrong way of approaching it

No country has reversed falling birth rates once they are below replacement level and countries have tried much bigger incentives than removing the 2 child cap. It won’t lead to more babies. Some of those families will have fallen on hard times & be responsible with any additional money.

You lost me at "full time mum".

@YorkshireGoldDrinker aren't Reform in agreement with lifting the 2 child cap?

he will take home around £65k before pension, you wont pay any tax, so thats around £75k before pension. We have 2 kids, £150k mortgage and live in a medium cost area. Outgoings are £3k a month. with that in mind, you would have around £39k left after pension. How are you only having one holdiay a year? We have 3. Two cars that are now paid off but even when we were paying £500 a month for them both with still managed 2 holidays

This. Aspiration is punished under Labour so what hope is there for anyone. Where is the incentive to do well in this country?

Mate, your husband is not taxed 60% of a 100k salary unless he has fucked up badly somewhere.