Tax TAx TAX!!!!!! Fuming at our government!

[Baldylovingbeard]

please try and convince me otherwise…..

What a joke this government are!!! ( UK)

Let’s just tax everyone who earns a bit of cash!!! Oh and while we’re at it… go on have loads more children it’s ok others will pay for them!!! Cutting the 2child benefit cap! If you decide to have multiple children you should be able to afford to provide for them. NOT expect others too!!!!! If you fall on hard times and you’ve worked and contributed to paying tax than you are within your rights to claim tax this is what benefits were made for, it’s not a means to not work, have more kids….etc!

Oh and if you work really hard and want to put some money by for you later days in life…. You’ll be taxed!

My situation:
Part time work, full time mum to 1 child. I work for myself and earn around 10k this money usually pays for things our daughter needs… clothes, clubs, any treats.
Husband works long hours, his under a lot of stress with his job, he has worked his way to and earns a very good salary 100k he gets taxed 60% you do the maths on that! We live in a 3 bed around £280k so nothing crazy but live within our means. We have one car! One holiday a year! Put money into savings! Pension! our daughter goes to one after school club. My husband got kicked out of home at 16…. He has worked with no help from family or friends and I believe he has worked very hard to get to where he is now. we are generous with charity’s and try our best to help out when we can if we can!

I wonder what the moaners would do to raise money to pay for schools, health services, police, prisons, roads etc since they obviously think they shouldn’t have to pay any tax?

You do realise the cap was actually on universal credit/child tax credit not child benefit. Yeah 38% of uc claimants are in work which means most aren’t

And some people have enough arrogance they can’t empathise with people who are working hard and still struggling.

What can you do? 🤷🏻‍♀️

I'm pissed off with the lifting of the 2 child benefit cap. We don't have any money, the economy is dead, the jobs market is dead, yet taxes are going up- not to pay for infrastructure projects that would boost the economy or reducing the debt so we pay less in interest or on projects that would directly help children but handed to people on benefits. And its not child benefit, Its a lot of money per child in addition to child benefit, no matter how many you have. Why not taper it, or increase it to 3 children? Its pandering to their backbench MP's at the expense of people who have to pay for it.

Quit your job then, off you go - see how much "better off" you are.
You won't because you know it is absolute nonsense

Interesting - why don’t people who can work - work?

There are generations not working.

There are boat loads of people - who aren’t allowed to work.

Yet we pay over and over again - they use the same GP’s dentist and schools everyone else does.

A big way to decrease the working age welfare bill is to have more affordable housing - so i assume all the anti tax rise people are keen for measures to build much more housing and deflate the insane house price bubble?

I think they do realise but don’t want to acknowledge

We need a huge housing programme but people don’t want their house price impacted.

God we can all come up with reasons it’s not fair. I come out with 3700pm, I’m a widow with two teens. But c’mon there’s loads worse off . Pensions imo have always been a bit of a con, money in the governments coffers. I could be wrong with that but will advise my kids to privately invest.

I’m saying people who don’t begrudge it (the concept you have an issue with) have the intelligence to realise that contributing to society is necessary, and a good thing.

Maybe @Baldylovingbeard should take in some washing, or walk somebodys dog?

OP, I agree with you.

They should have kept the 2 kid cap, raised the amount everyone can earn before tax fiscal drag and not increased minimum wage which in turn increases the amount of NI employers pay .
They should not be taxing contributions to a pension. They're going to tax you on it when you get it at the other end anyway.

The fact that BBC and SKY told their viewers what was in the budget from about 11.30 onwards, that was fun! It saved me from listening to the robotic tones of RR.

Both Starmer and Lammy have houses worth over 1.5 and below 2m quid - funny where the bar for extra Council Tax was set, isn't it? 🤔

That's a bit silly. Sure, one person could maybe do it - maybe even lots could - but you must see countries can't be run on voluntary taxes?

@EasternStandard who is the party of growth? I’m intrigued

I actually would be happy if the country stopped being such a depressing country and that starving/ undernourished families could actually feed their kids. Glad the two child cap is over. It was so classist. Glad the NHS is finally being invested in after the many many Tory PMs drained it.

On a salary if £100k your take home pay after tax and NI is around £68k. He really doesn’t pay 60% tax. The top rate is 40% on income over around £50k up to £125k.

I wouldn't mind raising tax if it was actually used on those things- that would actually benefit everyone, so we could see where our taxes are going in the form of a more efficient court system, more police, better roads. But its not. The cost of raising the 2 child benefit cap is more than it would have cost to pay for additional court days to sit so we could remove the backlog on cases and keep trial by jury. Its a waste of money and wont do anything to take children out of poverty.

Many people on benefits are in full time employment but paid so poorly that the state has to contribute.

Funniest thing I've read on MN in quite some time. Which comedy club are you playing next? 😂

And that is 6 future workers and taxpayers. If some are not working already that is.

Tax on £130k combined looks very different to different people.

Partner 1 earns £105,000, after student loans and auto enrol = Brings home £58k a year
Partner 2 earns £25,000, after student loan and auto enrol = Brings home £20k a year
They loose free childcare hours totalling £24k a year (£12k per kid, genuine figure of £10ph in the SE) + the £4k a year tax free childcare, and all child benefit.
Leaving them with £50k a year

In another example
Partner 1 & 2 both earn a £65k salary, after student loans and auto enrol = £45k each
They still get their childcare perks, plus £2.5k in child benefit a year.
Leaving them with £92k a year

If I was couple 2 I wouldn’t mind paying my tax on a combined income of £130k either.

You can also see how the gap between the take home pay of a £100k a year household salary, and some of the benefit claimants (who aren’t affected by the cap) isn’t always as huge as some people think it is. Especially when you factor in housing costs in the SE and London. And I say that as someone who, if on benefits, the cap wouldn’t apply too.

Honestly this entire thread is disgusting. Full of rank snobbery, othering and greed. Appalling.

This. More than happy to pay for services, don't believe governments are for wealth redistribution.

"Woe is me, I am wealthy enough to use a legal tax allowance to benefit myself more with the luxury of savings and now my government is removing that benefit"

More likely 6 future welfare and benefit claimants whether in work or out.

Nope.

But people won’t vote for the other options as they’re all a shower of shit.

Local elections earlier this year should have been a huge wake up for Labour but seemingly it wasn’t.