Farage’s racism

[CuriousKangaroo]

I haven’t yet seen a post about this story: Twenty people allege he has a racist past. He denies it. Who’s telling the truth about Farage’s schooldays? | Nigel Farage | The Guardian

Farage no longer categorically denies these incidents, and is now trying to fudge things by saying he didn’t mean any harm and it was a long time ago - presumably because he knows it is true and realises that 20 separate people saying it means only the truly deluded wouldn’t believe he was a racist.

But what I am interested in is does this actually assist his election chances? We already know that many of his supporters are racists - does it actually work for him that this blatant racism from him shores up their support? Are they secretly (or perhaps not so secretly in some cases) pleased?

And what do those of you who are Reform supporters but believe yourself not be racist think? Does it make you change your mind about him or Reform?

What's the point of posting averages? Are you average height?

The coward here is Farage, for not acknowledging the things he did and apologising for them, and for not stating that he has changed his views. He's bringing all this on himself by refusing to take responsibility for the wrongs he has done.

And by not doing so, he does rather suggest that he is not sorry and that therefore his views have not changed.

Fundamentally that was actually the thing I found fascinating when I started this thread. I think he has probably calculated that being viewed as a racist does him more good, electorally, than harm. He knows the majority of his supporters are racists and are more likely to vote for him if they think he is one too. It’s an extraordinary sign of the times, and a very sad one.

It doesn’t seem to have impacted his support one bit, though, as predicted. His supporters like him because they’re so painfully insecure that they are filled with hate. They have to feel superior to someone, so they love the fact he’s a piece of shit and will punish minorities on their behalf.

Even if he has gone down in some people’s estimations they will never admit it because that would mean their whole identity and ego would take a hit. It’s the same reason Brexiteers won’t admit they were conned, even if they know it.

If even the Russian bribery scandal won’t make them sit up and take stock, then we’re fighting a losing battle here. They will realise when it’s too late. The same story is playing out all over Europe. The Russian propaganda machine is frighteningly effective.

It’s funny how we’ve had years of rife conspiracy theories and people thinking they know it all, yet these same people are falling for the biggest actual conspiracy in modern times by the establishment they profess to hate so much 🤣

It’s not just what happened 50 years ago, this has been a consistent pattern in his adult life.

2017 - Farage is invited to the AfD rally by a Nazi finance minister’s granddaughter

Americans should fear Jews more than Russia…. Hmm, I wonder why!?

Do because he was 15 that means it was ok? Does that mean Shamina Begum can come home as well then?

Richard Tice press conference:

• Refused to say whether he still believes Nigel Farage's school accusers made up their claims, calling the row "old news".
• Refused twice to condemn a Reform candidate who said David Lammy should "go home" to the Caribbean.

Same with Danny Kruger

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/urgent-review-into-foreign-financial-interference-in-uk-politics

Funny how Farage is swerving press conferences now...

Yes, odd isn’t it? He used to hold them weekly regardless of whether or not they were justified.

Alternatively, in a few weeks time he will cite the lack as proof that he is being suppressed.

To be fair, I found the headline in your first link somewhat disingenuous. The headline suggests that Farage attended the conference to talk about immigration - however the body of the article and quotes suggest not; "the event showed Ms Von Storch was keen to return the debate to the party’s Eurosceptic roots."

Quotes from Farage say that he talked about Brexit and challenging the establishment/status quo, Germany's financial contributions to the EU, trade, the UK's potential deal with the EU, UK's relationship with Germany...

Regarding your second link, that's regrettable from Farage, however what is most interesting is that your link (United States) completely omits the caller's name (to Farage's radio show) and goes down the 'fuel for white supremacists' route - whereas Farage addresses the caller/the person making the claim by name several times, 'Ahmed from Leyton.' In fact, this UK published article refers to Ahmed five times;
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/us-jewish-lobby-nigel-farage-power-anti-semitism-ukip-leader-a8031191.html

Did you deliberately choose a link omitting Ahmed's name?

I abhor what "Ahmed from Leyton"* said, but he's not a potential future PM, is he? Nice try though Clav.

*Given that this was an anonymous caller, we don't even know if he really was "Ahmed from Leyton", or, for example, "Tommy from Luton".

Or Yuri from Vladivostok.

Yes, good shout.

Latest Guardian piece

Nigel Farage told to apologise by 26 of his school contemporaries

Open letter to Reform UK leader expresses ‘dismay and anger’ at his response to racism and antisemitism allegations

Nigel Farage told to apologise by 26 of his school contemporaries | Nigel Farage | The Guardian

So Mr Farage accepted an invitation to speak at a far right rally by a woman who said Border guards should be allowed to shoot people trying to cross.

Yes "speak the unthinkable and people will believe the unthinkable"

Unbelievable you defend Farage and use words like "regrettable"

This isn't being a Devils Advocate, its helping to normalise racism, murder & it goes to show how reprehensible some current Tory supporters have become, Reform is definitely the party for you, no matter your denials.

Ah, but you omitted to mention the name of the random anonymous caller which apparently is far more significant than any of this!

It's more 'can't see the wood for the trees' thinking

Its just rightwing justification of views that just a few years ago, were only held by those in the EDL or similar but have no become mainstream, thanks to main stream centre right parties adopting them.

Look no further than Tories defecting to Reform.

Of course his behaviour and actions are very much dragging his contemporaries as well as current pupils of the school into an unwelcome spotlight.

This isn't being a Devils Advocate, its helping to normalise racism, murder

Don't be ridiculous.

Reform is definitely the party for you, no matter your denials

Sorry, definitely voting Conservative.

You are aware of course that Poland passed a law last year allowing troops/border guards to shoot crossing migrants with impunity under certain circumstances. Migrants have also been shot by EU member states on the borders between Hungary and Serbia, Bulgaria and Turkey, crushed and beaten at the border between Spain and Morocco. There have been claims of torture and abuse at the hands of border guards in Latvia and Poland: electric shocks, striped naked and abandoned in the forest, beaten and chased by dogs... Illegal pushbacks at sea on the coast around Italy and Greece... I could go on... Whereas the UK gives Channel migrants a comfy bed in a Holiday Inn and three meals a day.

I'd like to know (I'm sure you do as well??) whether Keir Starmer, a former human rights lawyer no less, has challenged the EU and Ursula von der Leyen
about these human rights abuses in his reset talks, or during bilateral talks, e.g. during the security and border control agreement Starmer signed with Donald Tusk (Poland) earlier this year. Has Starmer challenged these abuses on our behalf or normalised them?

By the way, I recognised your name change a while ago. Back in the day you were a committed Corbynista. How did you feel about Jeremy Corbyn sharing a platform with the IRA, Hezbollah and Hamas? Not to mention Corbyn's work with Iranian State TV, numerous appearances on Russia Today and frolicking with Fidel Castro? Did you normalise Corbyn's behaviour?

Some people are very invested in destroying Western liberal democracies. Putin and Trump spring to mind. Some people are grasping, greedy inadequates, lacking in essential human attributes like guts, a spine, a brain, loyalty, responsibility or a conscience. Like Johnson and Farage. Proven liars and hate mongers.

Such men have wrecked and continue to damage our country.

Unfortunately fuckwits will support, excuse and continue to be manipulated by them.🙄🤦‍♀️

Deny all you like, very obvious where you sit on many issues & its straight from the Reform "manifesto"

I wonder if they'll even be a Con party by 2029? the rate of defections is off the scale!
The chances are, come 2029, Reform and Tory party will be as one, in an official pact.
So whether you vote Tory or not, you will be effectively voting Reform.

What other countries do, is irrelevant, esp as the Tory party took us out of the EU.
On Poland, the law was changed because a Polish soldier was stabbed by a migrant trying to cross from Belarus, you do realise what Putin is using Belarus for?
Poland is in the front line in the defence of Europe.

On Hotels and cross ch migration, remind me again who first used these and who stood by as this irregular migration went from close to zero to 10s of 1000s per year?

Leading Tories who have worked on Russia Today? Steve Baker, Kwasi Kwarteng, Mike Freer, Johnny Mercer, David Davies and Michael Fabricant.

The Tory party has received millions from Russians connected to Putin, hell, Boris even gave one a peerage, not content with this, they did nothing as Russia interfered with our democratic process.

Corbyn isn't even in the Labour party - keep up.

But Corbyn 🥱

Excellent attempt at a total derail. Who cares if SE has named changed? It is allowed on MN.

Did you read the letter linked above by @Efacsen ? Do you think all those people are lying? If they are, why doesn't Farage take action? Here it is again:

www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/dec/17/nigel-farage-told-to-apologise-by-26-of-his-school-contemporaries