Labour isn't working - Thread 21

[TheNuthatch]

A chat thread for those who don't like this Labour government. 💙

We are bracing for the budget 😬

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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Good morning…

I agree. People claiming generous PIPs should 100% be subject to passport tracking. It’s amazing that this doesn’t happen already.

It’s deliberate at this point. Why would you attack pensions which not only support investment but ease long term burdens. Then increase welfare but promise reform. The markets know Labour can’t get welfare reform through. Are the deliberately trying to crash the economy by increasing debt interest?

My view? They are simply implementing policies which they believe will ensure they govern in perpetuity.

That, combined with spite and incompetence.

The UK will simply have to accept that everyone will be poorer.

It would be counter to the right to freedom of movement.

Not that the Government hasn't ripped up rights before, mind, when it's suited them.

I am a strong believer in welfare as a safety net. But it's absolutely out of control now, and yes YY as others have said about 0% benefit fraud.

I'm pretty sure you're only allowed out of the country for 28 days at a time on most benefits. Anyone breaching that is at risk of losing their benefits.

Why are they so shite. Listening to ‘doubling down’ on getting growth etc and lower debt. Whilst hammering growth and increasing debt.

Why the lies?

And that’s why nobody trusts politicians - because of the constant dishonesty about the impact of what they’re doing.

But you’ve been very clear that one of the pros of being in Dubai is not paying tax!!

Just ignore that stuff. People are realising they messed up when they were certain no one would go if Labour put in bad policy.

They are oddly annoyed now and think no one should go anywhere. It’s madness. Really they’re cross at themselves for being duped and having to fill the gap which they were sure wouldn’t happen.

You just happen to talk about your situation and as with mn people need someone to throw some buns at.

But how would the DSS know, if my friend isnt required to attend reassessment for another year? She’s been gone ten weeks atm but intends to stay most of next year.

they wouldn’t know unless said claimant is picked up randomly for an audit

or reported

then full investigation

The 'how the welfare state ends' is where we are now.. but there's another scene to go.

The last picture has a couple of the people who were previously pulling collapsed on the ground, and the rest of them walking away. The people in the now-stationary cart angrily saying 'hang on! What now?' then reluctantly hopping off and walking... leaving the old couple and the mum with the baby from the first picture abandoned and stuck.

Hearing on the news that Reeves is being urged to change her budget to concentrate on growth. Probably a bit late for that though.

Yes. But we are also not accessing the services in the UK. Services in Dubai we have to pay for. When we/if we do go back to the UK we will be accessing the services and paying 45% tax. We will never be accessing services in the UK without paying for them. And to be honest we will never be accessing many services - private education, private healthcare etc.

FFS, surely it should be a done deal by now. How shit do you have to be to have not sorted the budget 2 days before delivering it? #rhetoricalquestion

So don’t come back to the uk 🤷‍♀️

@Woollyguru you could report him. Surprised we actually have a case of the PIP fraud which is only 1%

@percypiggy200 just ignore the nonsense.

Can I ask are there any economists here? Those with an actual academic education of economics?

This thread is about the current government. Why are you here questioning the personal circumstances of posters? Its none of your business.

I'd like to ask why the last labour government had a strong economy but this one is faltering is it all the Tories fault?

Yep it’s not worth it

Wow -miss a beat snd suddenly its 200 pists into the next thread!
Thank you!!! Xx

Regarding pension fairness. This is before the budget: