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The BBC are screwed, aren't they?

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kinkytoes · 15/11/2025 05:52

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c891jp9j79do

Are we ever going to find out who actually made the monumental fuck up? Rather than just a homogenous apology from the top.

Is this person/people still working for them?

I actually understand why Trump is doing this. You can't just let something so wrong pass by or they'll just keep doing it.

A composite image shows a picture of Trump in a blue suit and yellow tie on the left, and a picture of BBC offices in London on the right

Trump says he will sue BBC for at least $1bn over Panorama edit

The US president confirmed he intends to sue the broadcaster for at least $1bn over the Panorama edit of a 2021 speech.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c891jp9j79do

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PatheticDistraction · 15/11/2025 07:44

ThreeRandomWordz · 15/11/2025 05:58

That's not the reason he's suing the BBC or other media organizations. 🙄

This

xanthomelana · 15/11/2025 07:45

It’s going to cost the BBC either way because they’ll have to spend a fortune on legal fees if this goes to court.

crossedlines · 15/11/2025 07:46

Oh the irony of Trump not liking misrepresentation!

yes, the BBC messed up here but they aren’t screwed. Trump is making a point- he’s filed hundreds of lawsuits against so many different individuals and institutions, I highly doubt this will get anywhere. And hopefully changes for the better in the BBC will be a consequence of all this

myrtleWilson · 15/11/2025 07:46

Are you having issues with your keyboard @Radyward? You seem to have a proliferation of random capitals. Maybe give it a quick wipe or turn on/off if using a touch screen..

OvernightBloats · 15/11/2025 07:46

The BBC should have compensated him when they apologised. As usual, they are too arrogant to really admit how wrong they were.

Now, there could be an expensive law suit which will be a huge embarrassment for the BBC.

Problem is they don't know when to swallow their pride, admit they were wrong and make amends. They need to show that they are capable of learning from their mistakes also.

The lesser of two evils would have been to pay Trump compensation even though it felt wrong to use licence payers' money.

Arrogance trips up the BBC time and time again.

PatheticDistraction · 15/11/2025 07:48

Radyward · 15/11/2025 07:40

The BBC have destroyed themselves.a news outlet to deliberately doctor a speech to make a presidential candidate look like they invited a a RIOT is some "error "
I mean just own it. There is no excuse that's even remotely believable. It was deliberate. Trump is dead right to sue the Fake news BBC.
How can anyone trust the 6 pm News now on anything. All credibility and impartiality or their pretence of same is now gaslighting.

Im all for him suing because the apology was no apology. Hiding behind errors were made BS.
They obviously think The Public and Trump can be fobbed off with that piss poor excuse
Just disgusting from The BBC

The DG & Head of News have resigned. That's some apology in my books.

PatheticDistraction · 15/11/2025 07:49

OvernightBloats · 15/11/2025 07:46

The BBC should have compensated him when they apologised. As usual, they are too arrogant to really admit how wrong they were.

Now, there could be an expensive law suit which will be a huge embarrassment for the BBC.

Problem is they don't know when to swallow their pride, admit they were wrong and make amends. They need to show that they are capable of learning from their mistakes also.

The lesser of two evils would have been to pay Trump compensation even though it felt wrong to use licence payers' money.

Arrogance trips up the BBC time and time again.

I would be outraged if they used license fee payers money to compensate that man.

strawberrybubblegum · 15/11/2025 07:49

FancyNewt · 15/11/2025 06:37

Is it possible that someone on Trumps side made this happen as a way of damaging the BBC's reputation? It's in his interests to do that given that the BBC is reportedly the second most trusted news site in America. He wants media who will share his message and not question him.

O.M.G.

The BBC spliced together parts of the US president's perfectly normal political speech to deliberately deceive British people into believing that he was inciting an attack on his own government. They've admitted it.

And it worked: everyone here wondered why Trump got away with treason! It absolutely fed into our opinion of him, our opinion of the US as allies. It was deliberate manipulation of the UK public - using the BBC's trusted position - to influence UK political opinion on the elected leader of the world's biggest super power.

Of course he has to sue them, ffs.

I just hope the BBC is structured so that it ends up costing the corporation, not the taxpayer. It will hopefully be a catalyst for fundamental change of the BBC. The whole management structure needs to go, the size be reduced significantly, stop interfering in other countries politically.

Then they might start fulfilling their side of the licence fee bargain: providing unbiased, truthful reporting. Otherwise we're better off without them.

PenguinTimtam · 15/11/2025 07:50

mellongoose · 15/11/2025 06:34

He will come after them until there is a change in culture and a transparent plan, new people in place to ensure this doesn’t happen again.

The BBC has an amazing opportunity here to reinvent itself as actually being the institution we all wish it already was. Where excellent journalists REPORT facts and opinions come from those who are clearly identified so we know their bias.

In a world where we can no longer believe anything we read on SM, the BBC really could be our beacon of truth.

Oh yes, he’s such a man of virtue.

EasternStandard · 15/11/2025 07:51

FancyNewt · 15/11/2025 06:37

Is it possible that someone on Trumps side made this happen as a way of damaging the BBC's reputation? It's in his interests to do that given that the BBC is reportedly the second most trusted news site in America. He wants media who will share his message and not question him.

Made what happen, the actual editing? Why say that

LilySad91 · 15/11/2025 07:55

Hope so - the BBC has been spreading misinformation for far too long.

Something like 10% of everything BBC Verify has written has to be later significantly edited because it wasn't true. And the lies always go in the same direction: anti Trump, anti Israel, pro trans, anti Farage, pro net zero etc

Ratafia · 15/11/2025 07:55

Marchitectmummy · 15/11/2025 06:04

The edit is disgusting, I'm no fan of Trump but it just shows that while we are all being trained on unconscious bias the BBC are consciously biasing what information we receive.

Personally I've always suspected the BBCs political bias was applied to all news items but it's a big mistake of theirs for proof to be found. More will go just less publicly.

What annoys me about this is that they weren't actually biasing anything. He said what he was quoted as saying, and he undoubtedly encouraged his followers to march on the Capitol. If the programme makers had made it clear that what was quoted was not the same sentence, they would be in the clear, and there was plenty of material available to them that proved that they were right.

They're absolutely right to apologise, but their apology should be mainly to the public. Trump doesn't deserve any apology, because he is scum and we don't know the half of it.

Ratafia · 15/11/2025 07:57

OvernightBloats · 15/11/2025 07:46

The BBC should have compensated him when they apologised. As usual, they are too arrogant to really admit how wrong they were.

Now, there could be an expensive law suit which will be a huge embarrassment for the BBC.

Problem is they don't know when to swallow their pride, admit they were wrong and make amends. They need to show that they are capable of learning from their mistakes also.

The lesser of two evils would have been to pay Trump compensation even though it felt wrong to use licence payers' money.

Arrogance trips up the BBC time and time again.

Why should they compensate him? What damage has he suffered as a result of this? Face it, his reputation is rock bottom anyway, it was and remains impossible to make him out to be worse than he actually is.

Darlingx · 15/11/2025 08:00

If that the hill they die on . He is going to need something else on the newscycle other than the emails about him that have been released.

JamesClyman · 15/11/2025 08:00

The BBC's problem has long been its interpretation of "impartiality" which it seems to define as "offending nobody". As a result, it offends everyone to a greater or lesser degree and, when the chips are down, it finds it really has very few friends when it really needs them.

strawberrybubblegum · 15/11/2025 08:01

Are you seriously not wondering what else they've lied to you about?

This is a seismic revelation.

kodakpp3 · 15/11/2025 08:02

kinkytoes · 15/11/2025 06:07

Also, it feels like such an obvious breach of trust. Not hard to compare two speeches. I'm surprised it took so long to uncover it tbh.

They weren't only devious but they were stupid too. The worst type of idiot.

Wasn’t it all from the same, 1+ hour, speech?

Both parts were significant sections but it was wrong to put them juxtaposition without some explanation.

The whole speech was too long to be shown in full and so needed cutting down.

Yes he’s a right to feel wronged - but he did say these things albeit some minutes apart.

Was he materially or reputationally damaged - no.

Should he win then $1 billion is about £11 each. I can think of better ways of spending £11.

I err more towards the Arkell vs Pressdram approach now that an apology and promise not to show the programme again have been made.

Milbie · 15/11/2025 08:02

They should apologise, which I think they have? But if he sues the BBC should fight it. A billion dollars? Disgusting. Really sickening to even think about it.

The day they hand over our cash to Trump in one of his shakedowns is the day I completely give up on the BBC as the craven, spineless court jesters people say they are.

I don't think they can bias a US election given we don't have a vote.

LilySad91 · 15/11/2025 08:03

Ratafia · 15/11/2025 07:55

What annoys me about this is that they weren't actually biasing anything. He said what he was quoted as saying, and he undoubtedly encouraged his followers to march on the Capitol. If the programme makers had made it clear that what was quoted was not the same sentence, they would be in the clear, and there was plenty of material available to them that proved that they were right.

They're absolutely right to apologise, but their apology should be mainly to the public. Trump doesn't deserve any apology, because he is scum and we don't know the half of it.

You're proving exactly why the BBC need to be sued into oblivion.

They deliberately misled you and you still believe the lie.

OvernightBloats · 15/11/2025 08:04

Ratafia · 15/11/2025 07:57

Why should they compensate him? What damage has he suffered as a result of this? Face it, his reputation is rock bottom anyway, it was and remains impossible to make him out to be worse than he actually is.

They misrepresented him. This is completely the opposite of reporting the facts.

Not a fan of Trump at all! But, he and many others, are right to be outraged by what the BBC has done.

This is going to cost them either way. Now, because they refused to pay compensation, the BBC may end up having to pay MORE money.

I don't like the idea of paying compensation at all but Trump loves a legal fight. The BBC should have known that he would not back down on his demands.

Friendlyfart · 15/11/2025 08:07

I agree, although I can’t bear Trump (and he doesn’t need help to look like an idiot). It’s not just this, it’s the pro-Hamas bias, trans legitimising, Saville and all the other paedophiles.
It needs a massive shake-up.

Gettoachiro · 15/11/2025 08:08

Nesbi · 15/11/2025 07:36

The programme was made for the BBC by an independent production company called October Films - the person who actually created the edit more than likely works for them, and the BBC didn’t spot it before the programme went out. If the BBC didn’t have to pay anything they would presumably pass the cost to October Films, who would have to claim on their insurance.

Trump actually winning a case is very unlikely though. He can’t claim in the UK as it is too late. Claiming in the US seems odd as the programme wasn’t shown there.

He would try to claim that people in the US saw it anyway, but he’d have to prove that with evidence. He’d also have to prove that it damaged his reputation, which is pretty challenging as his reputation is as a lying, cheating sexual molester who has been impeached twice, including for inciting the insurrection at the Capitol.

This.

But the BBC have really let themselves down.

ohdelay · 15/11/2025 08:08

I'm glad he's going for them after that non apology. They really can't see their own wrongs through their arrogance. After doing the same thing on Newsnight two years ago and being called out on it on the spot by a guest, them saying it is unintentional is a barefaced lie.
They are corrupt and agenda driven and won't just be doing it to Trump, this is normal and allowed and probably happens whenever they want to make a point. Splicing sentences together out of context to change the original meaning is Russian or Chinese level misinformation (or so we're told by them). Not something a British establishment would do, except they do and they are liars.
Who made the edit, was money involved, what are their affiliations, how many eyes saw it and approved it, who shut down the whistleblowers on bias (it wasn't just the Trump edit that got called out), what are their internal journalism standards, how have they not been breeched? Questions that their stupid non apology doesn't even try to address.

teenagersandalittleone · 15/11/2025 08:08

F

Radyward · 15/11/2025 08:09

I think its mad people are saying it in no way influenced the election result. What! Have they never heard of the Internet. Its in the worldwide public domain that 'edit'.
BBC are totally screwed and rightly so
Fake news by the world renowned BBC.

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