Labour isn't working - Thread 19

[TheNuthatch]

A chat thread for those who don't like this Labour government. 💙

We are bracing for the budget 😬

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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I find it a bit odd that there hasn’t actually been a budget yet, and people (news sources etc) are saying Labour are going to raise income tax. And then they’re not going to raise income tax. It’s all conjecture. No point in any of it until the day. Who knows what they will or won’t do.

I don’t think they know, so how on earth anyone can accurately comment on a moving feast, I’m not sure.

I suppose it’s non work for the journalists and tv presenters. Actually it might be work for the tv presenters as they pay them selves minimum wage under limited companies, so under 45k. I suppose the dividends would come under corporation tax. Is that work or non work. Damned if I know.

It’s as @DamnthetorpedoesLabour are using the press as a proxy for a focus group

Why do that when you can barrage people with options and gauge the online reaction

The old sherry started early for the retirees and non-working (for real).

This is one of my hobbies! 🤔 🤣

I know a lot of people say that. I suppose my brain doesn’t/can’t accept/compute that elected politicians in charge of running our country, wouldn’t do that so amateur dramatics-like. Surely. I mean if they are doing that, god help us.

I fully believe they are more than capable of doing that - and I've been in God help us mode since RR's 2024 Budget.

Integrity? They don't know the meaning of the word.

So I still haven't caught up with the thread but I don't know if I will this evening either

someone may have posted this already - Crewkerne Gazette best work by far

possibly a good example of how creative input into AI would work? (sorry I had my creative/working hat on there a little bit)
I mean, it is so well curated, and surely only a human being can do that bit? Or have I missed something about the abilities of ChatGPT? Sorry that's probably a question for another thread.

I also explained TDS to my mother yesterday. I could see the realisation dawning, because my cousin definitely has it!

Nice ending. sense of satisfaction about it if you're in my position - (judged as a conspiracy theorist for not having the BBC)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2sL7zVgUOAA&pp=0gcJCQMKAYcqIYzv

I think I will have a beer tonight

The budget anticipation frenzy is really bonkers. Let’s hope whichever party is in government FOREVER MORE learns not to do this bollocks every autumn.

I’d have thought some Sir Humphrey would have advised starving the media of oxygen on this but instead leaks, early morning speeches, flapping about markets, briefings , denials of briefings, blah blah. So unsettling and destabilising.

Once whatever is going to smack us round the chops for the next three years is concerned, I’m going to enjoy the champagne we have left from various offers I’ve snapped up and then go back to hunkering down. I don’t fancy giving Labour a penny of my money I don’t have to. All savings will be in ISAs, Vinted for clothes, the odd lamb and pig for cash from a local farmer (could they be done over more?) and while I can’t avoid council tax, I can spend very little, hoard what’s left in a tax free wrapper and they can go fuck themselves.

Indeed. Where is Sir Humphrey when we need him..

Ta ra for the evening. I look forward to a new thread by approx 10:00 GMT tomorrow 😂😂

I do miss the laughing reaction. (Not emoji as I typed pre edit).

(admits it and ashamed so I’ll nod my head in agreement because what else can I do apart from change future behaviour?)

My penance was finally getting home in the amber zone! Bloody crap drivers but that’s another thread.

They are fucking funny that Crewkerne Gazette.
”You funding lefty lies with your telly remote bro”
Their other videos are good too.

Happy Friday eve Rex. Enjoy 😁

You don't insult anyone or purposefully offend and derail the thread, so you're definitely not what Upstartled was referring to. I like your input.

I don't envy you driving in this weather. Its bloody awful out there.

Yes to all of this. Same here, including paying the local farmer in cash.

I didn't have you in mind @MrsMurphyIWish

There are more than a handful of ex-labour supporters on this thread, I was one. It's hard to give up on a party in increments - to feel defensive of the party it once was and yet infuriated that your goodwill has been taken for granted. I don't mind conversations that wax between the two sides of that coin.

It's when the rage ploppers drop into mid conversation, just to disrupt the flow, ranting about things we've never talked about and asking us to play some pantomime villain they can reaffirm their own alliegence in opposition to that gets my goat.

You'd have thought the whole political landscape was being built on this thread's observations and concerns alone the way some posters launch into the thread in an attempt to tear it down.

Anyway, I'm glad you got home safely. It is awful outside.

The lack of respecting a thread with a very clear intention is funny isn’t it?

I absolutely do read The Other Thread, and for me, I read it because I want balance in my views - I confess to voting Labour in the last GE - and they do post different things, a few things which are successes that come from gov.uk as a source (but I happily accept the Teleg as a source for anti Labour stories so bias is ok when obvious).

Occasionally I think “well, hang ON, that’s clearly not solely caused by X as Y, Z and bloody millions of other things contribute to that” but I don’t post it as that’s not what their thread is for. It’s got a different status to discussion threads on various things and I would hope this one does too but the Left (I used to think I WAS left!) just cannot stopping telling off from their perceived moral high ground. It’s so predictable. And to keep going when it’s been explained with “but my CHILDREN”. It’s so odd. And bad mannered. And now so frequent I can just see a username on here and scroll past without reading whereas I do read considered posts on The Other Thread with interest and occasionally agreement. I agreed with Streeting’s FB post criticising comments on a photo of children. Saw no sign of that anywhere else. But I didn’t lumber in to comment. Because it’s not my thread for that.

Anyway. gosh this Labour Government is a shocker.

DH had a first (for him) this week - half a lamb in part-payment of his veterinary invoice.

That’s a lovely picture. Hard up and grateful farmer offers half a lamb to the vet in lieu of cash. I imagine it’ll be very good and very tasty.

Posters asking where Sir Humphrey is

I didn't watch it, so I think it's the same thing, but I don't actually know for sure

based on the TV show? This is a play, in London and touring around the country

Might be of interest to some

https://imsorryprimeminister.com

I've mentioned before, I think, that I voted Labour in the recent election. I deeply regret it now. My reasoning was, I thought we needed a change after 14 years of the Tories, my then local MP was really good and I liked him in person when I met him, and it was a bit of a vote against the SNP where a Tory one would have been wasted.
I had no idea it would be this bad. They had years to prepare ffs.

Could have written that. I genuinely thought they couldn’t do worse than the Tories.

damn!

I read your post, and I just feel so bloody sad tbh.

That a farmer is compelled (or elects) to pay your DH’s invoice in such a way.
We should be protecting our farmers - not shitting on them as Labour have done.

It’s terrific that DH is so accommodating.

I will stop ranting.