What makes someone a loser in life? Be honest!

[Benny91]

Just wondering what makes someone a loser in life? Is it working a low skilled job all your life? Living at home still at 40?

what are your thoughts?

Not willingly paying child support has to be top in my opinion. The need to steel particularly from the vulnerable and elderly gets a close top. I think in terms of life, health and career if you are happy then you’re not losing, you’re probably just being judged by someone not worthy of an opinion.

i don’t think people generally think loser but for
me a loser is a young or older person with no oomph, sits on computers all day and no job, smokes weed but can’t afford to pay bills etc. doesn’t contribute to anything, refuses to work or
do training with pathetic excuses and just has kids with multiple mothers. Doesn’t pay for them cos too busy buying vapes and weed

People who have no ambition for their kids and don’t care about whether they go to school or not. Parents should support their children so that they can become their best selves

We can all have disadvantages, disasters and make poor decisions at times. However, I think that a ‘loser’ is someone who takes no control over their life and then plays needy victim. Like someone moaning about being poor, ungrateful for their benefits, but won’t think to get a job. They’re emotionally immature as life happens to them, rather than something they participate in and grow in.

Self-made victim is what I was going for there.

Outside of requiring full time care yourself or providing full time care to a parent then yes living off someone into your 40s is very loser-y.

I do not care what job someone has, its pure snobbish too look down your nose on thinking a better paid job is better. The most necessary labor jobs (bin men, cleaners, carers, food production workers and so on) done by the best and least selfish people are usually very poorly paid jobs.

Really most of being a loser is 'attitude', like entitlement (such as living off your parents because its an easier ride), Judginess (looking down on people society needs because they do the things you think your too good to do) and I will add victim mentality is another one (when all your problems are always someone else fault so you just moan and never fix yourself) etc...

No enjoyment in life
no effort to pay their own way

Poor hygiene, no job and still lives at home with parents past 40. It's fine if people work in manual jobs, the country needs them and certainly doesn't make them losers.

We’re all losers here to the Elon Musks of the world I suppose 🤷🏻‍♀️

So someone had virtually ALL the above and you think it's judgemental? To not be sick or have anything preventing them working or being useful in someway to society?

If it wasn’t people prepared to do low skilled jobs for whatever their reason we would be in a lot of difficulties.

Definitely nothing to do with your job or salary. I know people who do very basic work to make end meet and also live remarkable lives as artists/campaigners/mothers.

All the losers I know shirk responsibility or accountability for their actions and decisions. Nothing to do with how rich or educated they may be. I consider all fathers who do not take financial responsibility or get involved with their kids losers, for example.

I agree to an extent but sometimes those parents didn't have anybody to care if they went to school or not so it just goes round in a loop.

Agree ! Obviously have a lot of time on their hands .

If it wasn't for people working in very low paid jobs we would all be living in shit. Literally.

Hate that phrase and hate eople who assume eg someone works mw/ lives at home/ comes from a certain area that they are one. Only losers out there are the ones that try to make life difficult for others

Commenting based on a family member:

• never been financially independent
• cannot hold a job down
• no qualms about taking handouts
• unable to think about how their actions affect others
• gets into fights or arguments with people but the issue is never them
• blames everyone else for their misfortune.

Absolutely NOT those who work in low skilled jobs.

People who do not drive, that's a personal choice and shouldn't be judged. There are too many cars on the roads anyway (and I say that as a driver!!)
I don't judge anyone for not driving. As long as they don't expect lifts, good for them.

People living at home in their 30s plus. Single people who earn get fuck all from the government and therefore cannot afford to move out and in some areas it's so expensive to even rent, why is it anyone's business if they live at home? As long as they're working and contributing to society.

A loser in society's eyes or in their own eyes?

Winning at life is about being happy. There's a man on YouTube (Nomad Sam) who's homeless and lives in a tent, forages for food and I think claims UC (as is his right). I suppose by MN standards he's a loser but he's happy and doesn't like staying in friends' houses. He doesn't want to be in a low paid job, having absolutely no money left over for himself.

If society creates this situation for so many people (ie being in a prison of sorts), why would they feel any obligation to contribute to it? It just encourages people to take what they can from it and opt out of contributing.

Badging people as losers is juvenile.

'Loser' is a high school word.

Adults usually understand life is complicated. Yes some people make bad choices. Other people have a rough ride.

If your life is going well, just enjoy that without looking down on other people.

My friend lives with her mother. Every day they both receive genuine love, care, friendship, laughter and support. They may fall out occasionally. They may disagree. But honestly I think 45 years of love, happiness and true support is amazing. Even sometimes nights out, restaurant visits and holidays abroad. I will never see her (or her mum) as losers. I see them as being very lucky to have years of life with true love and companionship.

You may term that being a loser (many will I guess) but I think it is wonderful. Far luckier than a not great partner that so many people end up with.

"Woe is me" attitude particularly when the evidence is to the contrary. In other words, people with advantages in life who just waste them because they are too busy moaning about how it's not fair they haven't got XYZ handed to them on a plate.

A loser is predominantly about missing life opportunities and is heavily related to social status and income/ financial self sufficiency seen through the lense of starting point.

Bricklayer 1: A person born into a family of no achievement living off benefits who trains as a bricklayer and maintains employment and income albeit at a low income = not a loser. Has bettered themself and achieved.

Bricklayer 2: Born into a professional middle class family, privately educated, went to university but dropped out, trains as a bricklayer = loser. Failed to grasp opportunities they were presented with and moved down social scale in terms of both status and income.

Highearner 1: Drugs baron, rolling in cash = loser. Has stacks of cash but is a criminal with no social status.

Highearner 2: Trust fund kid living off daddy = loser. Stacks of cash but did not do anything useful with their opportunities.

Highearner 3: Created and runs own company that makes a useful product = not a loser. Contributed to society, created jobs, high social status.

Well having just read a post about a middle aged man walking out on his family and kids after having a four year affair - I’d say that fuckwit is definitely near the top of the list.