Electric cars - Reeves to hit drivers with pay-per-mile tax

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Todays telegraph. Can imagine there will be howls of protest to this one.

Rachel Reeves to hit drivers with pay-per-mile tax in Budget

In its current form there’s no way they can really charge EVs to pay per mile. It hasn’t been officially announced anyway.

Dont bet against it.

The lying scumbag Rachel Reeves is capable of untold stupidity as she has demonstrated already.

She thrives on clusterfucking and this is another clusterfuck waiting to be announced in 2 weeks time given the clusterfuck that she is.

Another unbiased and totally reasonable post!

For a multitude of reasons, there can be no ppm, for EVs or anyone else.

What will happen is EVs will pay more VED but even that is fraught with issues, the Govt still has the Tory EV targets for manufactures to consider, which i think will also go/be reduced.

Many people don't want EVs nor can they afford them, then there is the charging at home problems when there is no off street parking.

But over time, the tax lost in fuel duty will need to be recouped, just not yet!

Agree with you about EV demand etc and the crap/pricey charging infrastructure - and I agree, VED is the easy option to raise money on all cars.

But ever since the 90s, the Labour goons have wanked furiously over the prospect of PPM and with EV's thats what Reeves is trying to gun for as the sample size is small compared to ICE cars.

The fact they (Labour) were content to have a major policy outed and not deny it speaks to their inherent stupidity to actually carry it out - even if its not until 2028 or beyond.

Reeves is a cunt and many believe she will announce it at the clusterfuckBudget in 2 weeks time.

They want people to drive EV cars. Most people, the majority drive petrol and diesel cars.
At the moment they can probably allow the loss of fuel duty with EV’s because they are in the minority.

Yeah apart from the rush to EVs was a Tory policy, they set the the targets for increased EV use, with fines for companies failing to make the sales, with Rishi Sunak supporting ppm when he was chancellor.. to make up the loss of fuel duties.

Reeves has never mentioned it, yet is getting called a cunt, i assume you weren't on here calling Sunak names?

I tend not to dabble too much in political threads as all politicians are lying cunts.

But to answer your specific question about Sunak - he is/was/remains a colossal fucking cunt as well - as well as being an unelected Prime Minister who didnt represent me or a whole host of the UK electorate.

Hope that clears things up :)

Sorry but to be clear, are you saying you don't like Sunak? it would help if you didn't sit on the fence with your feelings.

I thought I was clear? 😎

And I quote:

"But to answer your specific question about Sunak - he is/was/remains a colossal fucking cunt as well"

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No i 'm still not quite feeling your true feelings on this..... 😂

So Rachel - the fake "economist" has followed thru on Labours wet dream of PPM.

She should resign. Utter filth all politicians are.

Very disappointing this tax is. Does Ed Milliband support this ?

Milliband is a cunt as well.

It the devil's in the detail - how are they going to get your mileage, what happens if you drive abroad?
Also, they are charging 0.01p for plug in hybrids, so essentially you'll pay fuell duty on petrol and then be charged an extra penny because the petrol and ev useage cant be split.
I assume the increase in fuel duty in Sept 2026 is to try and make EV look more attractive.

So people who drive 2 tonne cars & therefore damage roads are whinging that will have to pay a bit more to contribute towards their repair?

The government(s) already have form for whacking poor people, though, whereby you have to pay more for your VED if you can't afford to pay the whole year upfront.

VED is neither a luxury purchase, nor is it something you get all at once and can fully make use of from the outset - as it covers a 12-month period, so you obviously can't 'use' the proportions for months 2-12 until they come around.

I get when it's private insurance companies charging you more for paying monthly, but for the government to be happily jumping on the bandwagon and shamelessly cashing in on poorer people with no alternative is utterly disgraceful.

They clearly knew and were planning this all along. Governments always wag their finger and charge you hefty 'sin taxes' on things that they insist they dearly want to encourage you to stop doing, but then they crap their pants at the loss of all the lovely money when people do stop doing them.

They're very like credit card companies, when they piously rebuke customers for incurring high interest fees, late payment fees and over-limit fees, rather than using them 'sensibly' - when it's clear as day that they base their whole lucrative business model on their reliance on people doing just that.

I genuinely think that they're now happily leaving behind the 'carrot' approach for EVs and will soon be going full steam ahead with the 'stick' approach for ICE cars. They already double-tax fuel, as well as charging VED (and not forgetting tax on insurance premiums and the E10 petrol stealth tax), so there will also be PPM on petrol and diesel cars soon as well - probably at a higher rate than for EVs - and it will be in addition to all the current taxes, not replacing any of them.

In starting with the PPM on EVs, and the very predictable arguments that this has caused between EV and ICE owners, they've clearly deliberately gone for the divide and rule approach.

My car does 60mpg. If yours really does only 20mph either (a) it’s a huge car with a unnecessarily big engine, and/or (b) you’re a hopeless driver.

Why don’t you swap to a small electric car instead of the huge one you’re currently driving?

Are you suggesting we’d be better off as a country if we all had long commutes to work?

13 miles per litre = approx 60mpg. Very few cars/drivers manage anywhere near that,

How about you move house or get a job closer to home?

Well we do use the roads and they need maintaining.

The true believers will carry on with their electric vehicles.
Those that might have considered switching will certainly have second thoughts .

This didn't age well.

I think they should have put more tax on petrol. It's too early to do the switch.

Yes EVs need to be taxed more eventually. But to do it now is just going to slow the uptake.