Electric cars - Reeves to hit drivers with pay-per-mile tax

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Todays telegraph. Can imagine there will be howls of protest to this one.

Rachel Reeves to hit drivers with pay-per-mile tax in Budget

Unless you permenatly lease new cars and therefore get rid before it before its due the first MOT 🤔

Just another reason it wont happen, its budget time and silly season on anti Reeves scare stories, any taxes to make good the shortfall, will have to be on charging and yearly VED.... not mileage.

Thay might just bring in yearly MOT from new so they can get a bit of VAT off that too.
Can they not just use your GPS?

I'm looking forward to a year when there isn't massive hysteria fueled by the press and people falling for it each time pre budget. I'll wait until the budget before I hire my wet and dry vac .

I don’t think you’re alone there, I think many people are fed up with the endless Labour kite flying and pre prep for taxing us to the hilt

The extracted budget doom press conference by Reeves didn’t help either.

Every government from any party plant stories without fail . The press conference was apparently, I think from sky news , that people weren't listening tax rises were on the way. This was to make people sit up and notice.

Another day another tax added. This Labour cohort is so corrupt and incompetent. They are shameless.

I m hoping this may give rise to more WFH but I suspect that isn't going to help economy growth.

I'm looking fwd to it, make these rich bastards with their sodding great EV SUV's pay their way.... bring it on!!

Neither of these ideas are happening. It's the right wing press speculating making things up and stirring people up about those awful tax stealing Labour types.

I shall wait and see what actually happens - just like last time when everyone was panicking and most of it never happened.

Yes, there a few non genuine posters on here, whose standard "go to" is to just make stuff up and stir the pot.

You'd think Reeves had announced this today, judging by their responses.

They did it at the last Budget and before that, the last GE, 95% never happens.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/6ccccd6e9bd1936f

The stupid thing about this proposed tax is paying by the mile. We don't do that here, and don't really have any way of reporting it until the having to do MOTs.

Other than that, it is right that EV cars should be taxed. They are much heavier than CE cars, and therefore more damaging to the roads.

Which is why its all speculation that won't happen. If this is actually in the budget, I'll come back here and eat my hat.

The press is working to make people think things have already happened that never will.

Well we bought our electric car with discount incentives from the government, including about £400 off a pod point. Also an incentive for us was the road tax, which we now have to pay. I don't mind that but as we use the road but it's ridiculous to offer it with one hand and take it back with the other.

It's an absolutely ridiculous suggestion, but what you expect from this government.
I'm already paying a huge amount in road tax for my electric. It went from £0 to just shy of £200 this April for a little Zoe. My DHs diesel is only £20 per year!!!

But all the large lorries thundering along the roads is much worse....

So we pay VAT on electricity already, and the price per mile if you charge away from home is already the same as using petrol/diesel.

It’s currently only cheap if you have somewhere cheap to charge.

So great, thanks. I changed my very old PHEV for a 3 yr old electric. Looks like it’s going to get expensive.

You said:

"Every mile you drive, more than half the cost of fuel is tax."

But that tax on fuel does not cover distance.

Once a driver has fuelled up and paid that tax, they can drive at liberty without being taxed on distance until they need to fill up again.

A diesel driver can probably do 700-800 miles if they drive efficiently. Many petrol cars can go up to 500 miles between refills.

If this reckless Govt is stupid enough to pummel EV drivers with PPM to generate revenue, you can bet your ass they will, before long, introduce PPM to petrol/diesel drivers as well as a way to generate more money for their coffers to eventually piss away and waste.

Your critical thinking isnt as "high" as you make it out to be - you had no clue the angle I was referring to - and you probably still dont now that its in front of you. 🙄🤦‍♂️

Exactly but at this rate we will have no money to buy shit so less lorries will be required too.

It’s kite flying too by Labour.

The lorries don't thunder down neighbourhood streets.

I think you’ve misunderstood the point the other poster is making.

“But that tax on fuel does not cover distance.
Once a driver has fuelled up and paid that tax, they can drive at liberty without being taxed on distance until they need to fill up again”

The tax is on per litre of fuel. The more you drive, the more fuel you use, which means that the more miles you drive, the more tax you pay.

The brief on the radio said petrol and diesel users pay duty. Electric users don't. It said electric cars are usually bought by higher earners. Why shouldn't they pay a duty?

I understood their flawed point perfectly well.

You and the other poster do not understand mine.

Once you have paid for your taxed fuel, whether you do one mile or a hundred, you arent taxed again until you fill up. Ergo, you are NOT taxed via Pay Per Mile.

PPM on EVs would be a perfect pathway to taxing conventional cars on PPM on top of what they pay in fuel duty.

Stunned that (some) people cant see that.