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Labour isn't working - Thread 17

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TheNuthatch · 05/11/2025 08:00

A chat thread for those who don't like this Labour government. 💙

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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SpaceRaccoon · 07/11/2025 08:16

Wonder how the polls will look post budget.
I'll be a happy womaniser the Tories overtake Labour.

Upstartled · 07/11/2025 08:17

SpaceRaccoon · 07/11/2025 08:16

Wonder how the polls will look post budget.
I'll be a happy womaniser the Tories overtake Labour.

🤣 I hate autocorrect

Frankenchino · 07/11/2025 08:18

@Upstartled

I meant a generic ‘you’ rather than anyone specific!

Interested in this thread?

Then you might like threads about this subject:

SpaceRaccoon · 07/11/2025 08:27

Upstartled · 07/11/2025 08:17

🤣 I hate autocorrect

OMG 😂😂😂
And too late to edit!

Legolava · 07/11/2025 08:31

Forgetmenot9 · 07/11/2025 07:34

I've recently left, but my experience very much mirrors yours @Legolava Punching, biting, chairs thrown... We had a child, with SEMH needs, who shouted out a constant stream of abuse which was clearly of racist intent but changed JUST enough... We had a high number of SEN children in the class, who struggled even more because of this child who we had to keep in class as much as possible. The other children int he class told me they hated school and frankly I didn't blame them...

All the teacher’s fault though. Nothing to do with society and policy. Posts on this thread are EXACTLY why I left MN in the first place. Don’t take long for the phrase - entitled teachers to come out did it. I have been hit 3 times this week. My classroom destroyed. I want to go to work and be safe. I want to go to work and see the children I teach be kept safe. Not suffer multiple evacuations and police visits.

Teachers who don’t vote Labour are always targets.

Catatemyhomework · 07/11/2025 08:37

God, I've woken up to an over whelming sense of doom this morning. Help me snap out of it. 😭

TheNuthatch · 07/11/2025 08:38

SpaceRaccoon · 07/11/2025 08:16

Wonder how the polls will look post budget.
I'll be a happy womaniser the Tories overtake Labour.

Too funny 🤣🤣

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NoWordForFluffy · 07/11/2025 08:40

Frankenchino · 07/11/2025 08:08

F@@@ing Reform UK. You do realise we are @@@@ed if they get in?

Yes. I don't support Reform.

Legolava · 07/11/2025 08:41

NoWordForFluffy · 07/11/2025 08:40

Yes. I don't support Reform.

Neither do I - as an entitled teacher.

TheNuthatch · 07/11/2025 08:46

Catatemyhomework · 07/11/2025 08:37

God, I've woken up to an over whelming sense of doom this morning. Help me snap out of it. 😭

Have a look at that polling I posted earlier Cat. Labour are done. We just need to batten down the hatches and get through the next 3 and a half years. Easier said than done, I know.

What's the weather like where you are? I have gorgeous Autumn sunshine here. I had a lovely walk with the dogs this morning, good for the soul.

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Catatemyhomework · 07/11/2025 08:46

People clearly do support Reform going by this. I haven't voted for them, but this is what happens when people are disenfranchised. They feel they have nothing to lose and anything has to be better. You can't blame them really.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15265281/National-pride-plummeted-society-divided-Keir-Starmers-Britain.html

TheNuthatch · 07/11/2025 08:48

Who you support doesn't necessarily translate to who you vote for though. If a pollster asked me who I will vote for, the answer would be Reform.

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Catatemyhomework · 07/11/2025 08:49

TheNuthatch · 07/11/2025 08:46

Have a look at that polling I posted earlier Cat. Labour are done. We just need to batten down the hatches and get through the next 3 and a half years. Easier said than done, I know.

What's the weather like where you are? I have gorgeous Autumn sunshine here. I had a lovely walk with the dogs this morning, good for the soul.

But 3 more years! We'll all be on our knees. The damage will be irreversible.
You are right though, it is a lovely day. I just feel helpless about the state of things.

Catatemyhomework · 07/11/2025 08:49

TheNuthatch · 07/11/2025 08:46

Have a look at that polling I posted earlier Cat. Labour are done. We just need to batten down the hatches and get through the next 3 and a half years. Easier said than done, I know.

What's the weather like where you are? I have gorgeous Autumn sunshine here. I had a lovely walk with the dogs this morning, good for the soul.

But 3 more years! We'll all be on our knees. The damage will be irreversible.
You are right though, it is a lovely day. I just feel helpless about the state of things.

Legolava · 07/11/2025 08:49

NoWordForFluffy · 07/11/2025 08:40

Yes. I don't support Reform.

I don’t know why that posted twice! People can vote for who they like. I see WHY Reform have support. Labour is so heavily weighted to public workers - teachers who don’t agree with them always attract a bashing.

Catatemyhomework · 07/11/2025 08:51

No idea why it's posting twice

EasternStandard · 07/11/2025 08:53

TheNuthatch · 07/11/2025 08:46

Have a look at that polling I posted earlier Cat. Labour are done. We just need to batten down the hatches and get through the next 3 and a half years. Easier said than done, I know.

What's the weather like where you are? I have gorgeous Autumn sunshine here. I had a lovely walk with the dogs this morning, good for the soul.

I hope so, I really do. The mood is different now, bar very few Labour posters you can see it on here even.

It’s not sunny here, but so mild! Still too warm for a really cold run imo, I hope your injury is better snd you’re back out

Julen7 · 07/11/2025 09:04

Catatemyhomework · 07/11/2025 08:49

But 3 more years! We'll all be on our knees. The damage will be irreversible.
You are right though, it is a lovely day. I just feel helpless about the state of things.

Me too 3.5 years is just too long. Can’t take any more!
Live in extreme south west and weather awful here today so don’t even have that!

Rexinasaurus · 07/11/2025 09:06

I love the teachers at our school. I’ve not heard anyone call teachers entitled. There was one dad about a year ago who started having a go at the teachers, he was basically rounded on by half the WhatsApp group and told to behave / park it / shut up. He didn’t of course, being an entitled middle aged man, but I was heartened to see the responses to his idiocy.

Eta- but I can well imagine it goes on at some schools. And I’m sorry to hear it @Legolava. And no question things are v v v different to 20yrs ago.

Upstartled · 07/11/2025 09:08

The thing that nobody seems to be talking about, beyond here, that I find surprising is that all this additional taxation that we will be paying - is just servicing the money wheel.

Up and down MN you see a nodding agreement of a certain cohort that additional taxation is required because we need better services, that things are falling apart at the seams.

But what we are paying for is to spin the wheels with a growing welfare population and servicing debt. Oh, and the lifting of the two child cap. But the NHS isn't going to be better, infrastructure isn't going to be better, schools aren't going to be better when we fill this, well what is it now £36/41/51 billion black hole depending on how badly we get shafted by the money lenders. That is practically no growth in the economy and unemployment is increasing.

This is just misery taxation, nothing is going to get better for the vast majority of people who are paying it. And the government is deeply unpopular.

I mean, fuck me, now I'm miserable.

Catatemyhomework · 07/11/2025 09:08

Julen7 · 07/11/2025 09:04

Me too 3.5 years is just too long. Can’t take any more!
Live in extreme south west and weather awful here today so don’t even have that!

I'm South West too but not extreme. Somerset region!

TheNuthatch · 07/11/2025 09:09

EasternStandard · 07/11/2025 08:53

I hope so, I really do. The mood is different now, bar very few Labour posters you can see it on here even.

It’s not sunny here, but so mild! Still too warm for a really cold run imo, I hope your injury is better snd you’re back out

Thanks Eastern. No I'm not back out running unfortunately. I fear my running days may be over. I have something wrong with my foot that I didn't know I had.
I have to walk for at least two hours a day with the dogs though, so better than nothing. It really clears my head.

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EasternStandard · 07/11/2025 09:10

Upstartled · 07/11/2025 09:08

The thing that nobody seems to be talking about, beyond here, that I find surprising is that all this additional taxation that we will be paying - is just servicing the money wheel.

Up and down MN you see a nodding agreement of a certain cohort that additional taxation is required because we need better services, that things are falling apart at the seams.

But what we are paying for is to spin the wheels with a growing welfare population and servicing debt. Oh, and the lifting of the two child cap. But the NHS isn't going to be better, infrastructure isn't going to be better, schools aren't going to be better when we fill this, well what is it now £36/41/51 billion black hole depending on how badly we get shafted by the money lenders. That is practically no growth in the economy and unemployment is increasing.

This is just misery taxation, nothing is going to get better for the vast majority of people who are paying it. And the government is deeply unpopular.

I mean, fuck me, now I'm miserable.

It’s a tax doom spiral. Once you’re on it it’s really hard to get off. Reeves is probably realising hence the stress.

Rexinasaurus · 07/11/2025 09:11

Upstartled · 07/11/2025 09:08

The thing that nobody seems to be talking about, beyond here, that I find surprising is that all this additional taxation that we will be paying - is just servicing the money wheel.

Up and down MN you see a nodding agreement of a certain cohort that additional taxation is required because we need better services, that things are falling apart at the seams.

But what we are paying for is to spin the wheels with a growing welfare population and servicing debt. Oh, and the lifting of the two child cap. But the NHS isn't going to be better, infrastructure isn't going to be better, schools aren't going to be better when we fill this, well what is it now £36/41/51 billion black hole depending on how badly we get shafted by the money lenders. That is practically no growth in the economy and unemployment is increasing.

This is just misery taxation, nothing is going to get better for the vast majority of people who are paying it. And the government is deeply unpopular.

I mean, fuck me, now I'm miserable.

Yes of course. I’ve been talking about it. Maybe not on this thread. Perhaps to brick walls on other threads.

Its like trying to fill a bucket that has huge holes. Totally pointless and never ending. Until the holes are fixed.

Sadly Labour are making the holes bigger and turning the taps to breaking point.

upseedaisee · 07/11/2025 09:13

SpaceRaccoon · 07/11/2025 08:16

Wonder how the polls will look post budget.
I'll be a happy womaniser the Tories overtake Labour.

The Conservatives really have to up their game. They have a very good set of goals, they just need to bang their drum louder and get out on the road.It's the main reason Reform are doing so well, they get their message out into the community.

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