Huntingdon was a lone wolf attack

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Confirmed by police about half an hour ago that the 35 year old arrested has been released without charge.

Some of these posts are making me feel like I'm at a Reform party conference.

The Daily Mail was working its readers up into a frenzy with its descriptions of the two men who were taken into custody, they allowed comments which technically is allowed as no charges had been made but my god, the things that were posted were horrendous and of course they won't be monitoring them due to clicks and comments equalling ad revenue. Other more responsible media outlets just reported the facts and did not open the comments section

The police have said there is no signs yet that it is terror related. Early days.

I dont know which to hope for. Terror attack or lone mad wolf. Either way its not great.

I’ll ask again. Did you believe them after Liverpool?

Honestly, I think probably. I don't think anyone capable or murdering lots of people is sane really. Whether it's god telling you to do it, or the voices in your head, it's all the same really.

But that doesn't mean they don't belong in a jail. There is a vast difference between someone who lacks capacity in the middle of a psychotic episode and a terrorist who kills loads of people who has full capacity and knows exactly why they are doing what they are doing.

I would say the same for someone who is depressed. Yes you clearly have issues, but you haven't lost capacity and you knowingly committed a crime.

It’s pretty sane to be fair.

Sorry. I actually had to Google...we've had so many horrendous attacks they are starting to lose their impact. Yes I would have assumed driving a car into a crowd was straight from the classic Isis training manual as its been used in that way so many times. I'm always suspicious of whatever is released to the public in the first few days of an attack as I think the government is terrified of things kicking off. So I have no idea if we are told the truth.

If people doubt that there is reluctance to discuss these issues, maybe look at the (delayed) coverage and response to the horrific murder of Iryna Zarutska in America and consider what the coverage and response would have been had the race of victim and killer were the other way round.

And yes, some people are trying to discuss these issues, but others (as on this thread) are trying to deflect away from them by one means and another.

I do not think he is "the truest victim of them all", but I do think he is one of the victims who had suffered an ordeal that he may never get over. Just like the injured victims on the train. The attempts to reduce him to someone who's just had their night interrupted and are under no circumstances deserving of any sympathy are equally bizarre to me.

To the point.

He was arrested because he was with the man causing mayhem. Nothing to do with his skin colour. Really!

I think you might want to look up the definition of racial profiling. The man you’re referring to was arrested at the scene because it was reported in good faith that he was involved in the attack. I can see why there might have been a mix up… as the actual attacker was also a black man in his 30s. Also had I been arrested because I fitted the description of a knife wielding maniac attacking innocent people on a train I certainly wouldn’t be looking for an apology. It'd very quickly become apparent that I wasn’t involved and I’d be thanking the police for 1. getting there to help so swiftly and 2. for catching the actual attacker. There’s people fighting for their lives in hospital let’s think about them for a minute and not looking for apologies on behalf of someone who might not even be looking for an apology in the first place. They’re likely grateful emergency services got there so quickly and that they’re alive…

Like the Germanwings pilot who crashed a plane killing everyone because he was depressed/suicidal. When does that become a loss of capacity.

Was he? Is that established? I understand the attacker boarded the train alone at Peterborough?

I also never said the victims in hospital were did not have it worse I said we found sympathise with them all
you are the one that made it sound like a mild bad day like the man left his keys in the house or got sprayed on by a puddle from a passing bus
“ may have ruined his Saturday night “

It must be awful for you living with such a level of distrust and paranoia

Strange that so many on here seem to know more than the police!

Don't we all these days? Do you trust Keir Starmer to tell the truth? When the country is a tinder box? I think he'd say anything to avoid a repeat of the riots. Which is fair enough. But I'm not naive enough to think we are never lied to.

Oh yes they most certainly do. Most people who commit murder are legally sane.

Yes, I had a feeling that the second suspect would end up being a black man who was arrested just because he was black and on the same train. Utterly disgusting. The racism in this country is vile. It's clearly one mentally ill person who has probably been failed by mental health services as so many are. Yet all the Reform dicks were quick to jump on the "usual suspects" bandwagon.

If the country is a tinder box it's because of people like you.

I see my post at 19.44 has been reported and deleted. I rest my case. Some people really don’t want us to discuss instances of interracial violence against white people, even in the most reasonable and respectful manner, do they? I’ll leave you all to it.

Excellent then we agree. So no need to make stuff up.

I don't see how you can say people are 'deflecting'. We don't know for sure, but none of the information on this attack is pointing to the attack being terror-related or racially motivated. People are just discussing the facts of this very current story.

And the papers at the moment are full of stories around the threat of violence 'other' religions and races (allegedly) pose. To say that there's a 'general reluctance' to discuss the subject is the most obviously false, dissonant thing I've ever read.