Huntingdon was a lone wolf attack

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Confirmed by police about half an hour ago that the 35 year old arrested has been released without charge.

The police had been told the second man was involved which is why they arrested him

Exactly!!

Yes, a shame that a man was mistakenly arrested but I will reserve my deep sympathy for those injured.

My local station doesn’t even have CCTV and I’d imagine the train CCTV would come from whichever railway company the train belonged to so the police would still have to request it and wait for it to be uploaded to examine etc and I’d imagine that’s very company / area dependent.

A caller on LBC earlier was speaking about a scary incident she experienced on a train where a knife was pulled out and she did not contact the police but thought someone somewhere would be watching live cctv of every train running at the time and would somehow pick up on what happened and send help. I think most of us are wildly uninformed about how these things work.

Eye witnesses are often mistaken by what they are seeing because of adrenaline and letting their brain fill in gaps.

If you remember the killing of Jean Charles de Menezes who was mistakenly shot by police on the tube - the initial witnesses who streamed out of the station and talked to the press were describing a man running in a bulky coat that didn’t suit the season so might have had a device, he vaulted over the ticket barrier.

Several of them really believed that was what they had seen.

When the footage was reviewed all of that was false.

Nobody has "decided" it's related to mental health issues.

But as of now there's no reason to believe this is terror related. So anyone still suggesting that it is has questionablle motives, to say the least.

My thoughts are with all the victims and their families. We have to let the investigations
take place and keep our armchair views to ourselves.
suggest those pointing racist fingers perhaps listen to the lyrics - Bruce Springsteen 41 shots - sadly a true story

Sorry, meant to put definition of terrorism in quotes.
https://www.cps.gov.uk/types-crime/terrorism

You realise everyone on that train was in fear for their lives. This man was clearly near by to the attacker to have been wrongly identified by a eye witness so went through that trauma and then was arrested as a suspect and probably holdover night due to the conference discussing him being today at 11 am. They all have my deepest sympathy.
doesn’t mean I think the police were ok the wrong but Christ can we all agree thank man has had a horrific 24 hours !

There is a general reluctance, including by the media, to discuss incidents of violence against white people by people who are not white. And even more reluctance to consider that such violence may in some cases be racially motivated. I don’t know if all the victims are white, certainly many are. Some people want to move the focus away from the victims to avoid discussion of these issues.

However, it also irks me somewhat that people immediately jump to it being MH issues that cause this. People with MH issues are much more likely to be victims of violence than perpetrators. Sometimes people are just bad.

i get that but it also irks me that people immediately jump to it being a terrorist attack by a Muslim.

I’m sure it spoiled his Saturday evening being in a police cell, and he may suffer from PTSD after witnessing the horrors, as will many of the people there last night. He’s just one of many people who will never forget what they experienced. I feel sorry for all of them, but mainly the ones with significant injuries.

I was violently assaulted in my teens by a stranger in a dark street, and the police arrested a man fitting my attacker’s description who was seen in the area. It turned out not to be him, and the true assailant was never caught. I’m afraid it didn’t enter my head to pity the innocent man who was temporarily inconvenienced by my brutal attack. But he was white, so I suppose you’d think that was OK anyway. Is it only innocent black men that mustn’t be arrested?

Agreed @Leavesfalling there is still a lot to know.

At the time of composing this message and with the current state of the news released, it is not clear what drove the attack. I note that two snippets that make one wonder are when captured apparently saying 'kill me' and the female passenger on the floor who he apparently said 'the Devil is not going to win' to.

On terrorism, I note legal definitions but also believe that there is a zone of activity outside of that where a form of nihilism is essentially political and a driver. Yes, I studied school killings on both sides of the Atlantic a good while ago now. I might post more at some point depending on what develops.

im sorry to hear of your trauma ❤️
the man is this story was also a potential victim who witnessed it unfold and was trapped.

Just reading the thread there is an awful lot of chat about mental health issues of BAME.

Attacks of this nature are often terror related. Mass killings/attempts. Not always of course. But Isis haven't gone away and its not as if we are free from terror attacks. We will never be free from that. If we were in the 80s/90s my first thought would be it was the IRA. Now I assume Islamists. That's just natural due to the UKs experiences in the last 20 years or so.

“Spoiled his Saturday evening” is so dismissive to be honest and you lost me there.
if you have been caught up in a middle of any sort of mass attack or horrific incidents it’s life impacting on top of all being accused. This was not a Mediocre bad day.

Oh behave.

they didn't know they had the attacker/he was the only attacker.

no I haven't been racially discriminated against all my life, it must be horiffic. For other reasons I have been discriminated against a LOT and that discrimination would be included in a description, so even more likely I'd be arrested if the attacker was described as having it.

it doesn't matter what the description is, if you fit it, the police are doing the right thing to make an arrest & not worry about hurty feelings.

I’ve got enough to cover all of them. Everyone who was caught up in that must be deeply traumatised.

He stabbed 10 people. Sane people don't do that.

But no information has been released about any of the victims race/ethnicity - half of them could be POC for all you know

No, it's not natural when the police have said it's not terror related and when there's no reason to believe it is.

What would you think if the suspect was a white guy?

It wasn't though.

I only hope that he was able to take some comfort in that there would be video evidence that it wasn’t him and he knew he would be let go. Unlike those who are falsely arrested and can’t immediately show beyond all doubt it wasn’t them.

That is of no comfort to those he tried to murder but he will be given all the excuses he needs to get away with it. My sympathy is 100% with his victims, not him.