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Which accent adds an extra r sound to drawing?

307 replies

SandalsAndSand · 29/10/2025 20:01

So that it sounds like drawring?

That’s all thank you. It’s annoying me that I can’t remember which accent it is.

TIA

OP posts:
lemondropsandchimneytops · 30/10/2025 14:47

Drawing, just as it's spelled 😁

This thread is unexpectedly funny. Must have helped you narrow down who the presenter is OP?! 😂

Zempy · 30/10/2025 15:01

We really need to get MN to allow short recordings!!

Knowsley · 30/10/2025 15:13

@SandalsAndSand What sort of presenter is it. Age? Height? Physique? Type of show?

RaraRachael · 30/10/2025 15:23

To me one of the Laura recordings sounds like Law-ra and the other like Low-ra.

I'd say Law-ra in my rhotic accent

Knowsley · 30/10/2025 15:30

@RaraRachael , try Lara then.

RaraRachael · 30/10/2025 15:33

Lara is a completely different name to Laura

Humphreyhen · 30/10/2025 15:33

Knowsley · 30/10/2025 15:30

@RaraRachael , try Lara then.

What do you mean?

RaraRachael · 30/10/2025 15:35

Humphreyhen · 30/10/2025 15:33

What do you mean?

I don't get it either

StrawberryJangle · 30/10/2025 15:41

LuckyNumberFive · 29/10/2025 20:11

I'm Midlands based and I'd say it that way too.

Same. Never has it been mentioned in 50 years.

Knowsley · 30/10/2025 15:52

@Humphreyhen , in Forvo, type Lara (or just about any word with an r in it.) then listen to how the R sounds different in the British version compared with Italian, Spanish or Portuguese.

You won't hear any difference, but that's you. It is an obvious difference to me.
If you listen to a word like genre said in French, and in English, you should hear it then. in French it's like zhonR, in English more like zhen-ruh with the ruh almost wuh/vuh.

Changename12 · 30/10/2025 16:05

I would say it like that. I have lived in the SE for 49 years but still retain some of my Birmingham accent, particularly the way I say a gerund (ing).

Humphreyhen · 30/10/2025 16:18

Knowsley · 30/10/2025 15:52

@Humphreyhen , in Forvo, type Lara (or just about any word with an r in it.) then listen to how the R sounds different in the British version compared with Italian, Spanish or Portuguese.

You won't hear any difference, but that's you. It is an obvious difference to me.
If you listen to a word like genre said in French, and in English, you should hear it then. in French it's like zhonR, in English more like zhen-ruh with the ruh almost wuh/vuh.

Edited

I do hear the difference, but I don’t speak Italian or Portuguese and don’t say r like they do so I’m not sure why it’s relevant?

Knowsley · 30/10/2025 16:32

I give up. You are not hearing it because you don't have an ear for it.

Humphreyhen · 30/10/2025 16:39

I just said I could hear the difference @Knowsley!

I think you’re imagining my accent and how I say r? And quite possibly getting that wrong.

Like pp, I also wish we could do voice recordings ☺️

I’m not sure why we’re talking about Portuguese etc?

Knowsley · 30/10/2025 16:54

@Humphreyhen , I'm not imagining your accent, so am not getting it wrong.

I think you are probably not hearing the difference between how most English speakers say the R in a word like Lara and how someone with a rhotic accent (e.g. Scottish) says it.

Do you hear the difference between the L sounds in Lolly?

RaraRachael · 30/10/2025 16:57

There's no difference between the l sounds in lolly - they're both just l 😀

Knowsley · 30/10/2025 17:13

I rest my case.

LaserPumpkin · 30/10/2025 17:17

RaraRachael · 30/10/2025 16:57

There's no difference between the l sounds in lolly - they're both just l 😀

I agree with this - what accent pronounces them differently? (And I can hear the difference between the rhotic and non-rhotic ‘r’ in Lara)

Knowsley · 30/10/2025 17:23

The first L is light and the LL dark. The tongue is in a different place when they're said.

Humphreyhen · 30/10/2025 17:24

Knowsley · 30/10/2025 16:54

@Humphreyhen , I'm not imagining your accent, so am not getting it wrong.

I think you are probably not hearing the difference between how most English speakers say the R in a word like Lara and how someone with a rhotic accent (e.g. Scottish) says it.

Do you hear the difference between the L sounds in Lolly?

Subtle difference in the l’s to my ear.

I have a rhotic accent (Irish) but the way I say r is not like the way (at least some) Scottish people say r. The sound of the r itself is different. Isn’t rhoticity just about whether a person pronounces the r in various positions in a word, not about the sound of the r itself? I don’t think I say r particularly like a Portuguese person or a Scottish person, more like the English accents in the clip of Laura upthread.

I speak some Irish too and the r is a bit different then (and there are two different r sounds). I’m talking about when I speak English.

pictur · 30/10/2025 17:49

RaraRachael · 30/10/2025 12:23

I'm not going to argue all day @pictur but to hear a rhotic person saying cart there is definitely an r sound. With a non rhotic person it sounds more like caht or fahm with no discernable r sound. Maybe you're hearing an r sound that I'm not.

You’re just saying what I’m saying using different words 🤷‍♀️

RaraRachael · 30/10/2025 18:03

Knowsley · 30/10/2025 17:13

I rest my case.

What does that mean? There may be a dark and light l sound in your accent but not in mine

MrsMoastyToasty · 30/10/2025 18:06

Bathonians even put an R in the name of their city.

Knowsley · 30/10/2025 18:10

@RaraRachael , it's nothing to do with accent. English Pronunciation, Lesson 27 - L Sound: Light L & Dark L

Humphreyhen · 30/10/2025 18:10

pictur · 30/10/2025 17:49

You’re just saying what I’m saying using different words 🤷‍♀️

@pictur
I’m not pp but you said
“The R is pronounced because it changes the word from Cat to Cart. Fam to Farm. Macket to Market.”

Then you said
“…it’s not pronounced but signfies pronunciation in most cases.”
(I added the emphasis.)

So that was confusing 😅

People could disagree that the r is pronounced as you first said it was, but be in agreement that it changes the pronunciation of a word if it’s there, which you said subsequently 🤷‍♀️