Which accent adds an extra r sound to drawing?

[SandalsAndSand]

So that it sounds like drawring?

That’s all thank you. It’s annoying me that I can’t remember which accent it is.

TIA

But draw to me is said “droor” (rhymes with door)

I say it like that, East London.

Yes I think Julia Donaldson must be from the south because all her rhymes worked for me!

As for the accent/pronunciation - it’s a fascinating distinction. Obviously in English we have hundreds of non phonetic words where we miss out or add in letters. I think most people could tell the difference between a significant mispronunciation like pacific/specific and something like drawing.

Yes, I don’t think it works in any rhotic accent so that’s a lot of people it doesn’t work for.

It’s not something niche.
(Cat and hat don’t rhyme so well in some north of Ireland accents, for example, but I’d say that’s more unusual 😁)

This is called ‘th fronting’ ☺️

No bovver, fanks mate

Does your neighbour remind you of David Bellamy? You’d need to have been a 70s kid to know who he is (probably), but I read “drawing” in his accent as soon as I saw the word!!

As an infant teacher I had lots of instances with books and sound games where the rhymes didn't work- farmers/pyjamas etc

I really don't know how teachers in England teach kids to spell when you're pronouncing cart as caht.

I once got a pupil who moved up from the London area and had written "heeow". I had no idea what he meant but asked him what the word was - it was "hill"

In Ireland I don’t think the r in Orla is rolled (usually). It’s pronounced but not rolled iyswim. Not by most people anyway.

ETA Maybe the rolled r in French was a separate point…I wasn’t certain.

I remember someone from Preston I used to know pronounced drawring.

I'm London and pronounce draw-ing

@Humphreyhen , The r in Orla is rhotic. The name usually gets said as Awluh in the UK.

I think northerners say it like that too sometimes? The one that annoys me a bit is people who pronounce it like draw-ring-GUH.

Or Sing-ging-GUH.

Yes, that’s more or less what I was saying earlier @Knowsley.

It’s call the Instrusive R

The way southerners generally pronounce R is just as valid as the way anyone else pronounces R.

It’s all down to the rich tapestry of life.

(As a southerner living in the north the way they all say errrrr nerrrrr instead of oh no is rather irksome though)

Errrrr nerrrrr for oh no? Really, is that a thing?
As someone with a rhotic accent I’m struggling to imagine how this is pronounced…I’m assuming all those r’s aren’t pronounced and it’s just a long drawn out oh no? Or am I wrong and it’s heavy on the r sound?

@pictur but southerners don't pronounce r in farm, cart, market etc

I'm not saying the way anyone speaks is more or less valid than anyone else.

Just delete the rs. Sort of 'euh neuh'?

I think I know what the errrr nerrrr thing sounds like. There are a few actresses in northern programmes who talk like this.

The R is pronounced because it changes the word from Cat to Cart. Fam to Farm. Macket to Market

Yeah so Euhhh nuehhhhh

@Humphreyhen , yes, I thought I'd add to it.
In much of GB the r is pronounced but isn't rhotic - I don't know how to describe it.

Most English accents are non-rhotic despite being rhotic historically. I prefer it actually.

It’s not pronounced but signifies pronunciation in most cases

I'm not going to argue all day @pictur but to hear a rhotic person saying cart there is definitely an r sound. With a non rhotic person it sounds more like caht or fahm with no discernable r sound. Maybe you're hearing an r sound that I'm not.

No, the r isn’t pronounced.

What it does do is change the pronunciation of the vowel so the word cart sounds different to cat.
But if you have a non-rhotic accent the r sound itself isn’t there for an r in that position in a word.