Which accent adds an extra r sound to drawing?

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So that it sounds like drawring?

That’s all thank you. It’s annoying me that I can’t remember which accent it is.

TIA

It’s not pronounced as an r. It changes the pronunciation of the vowel iyswim.

Thanks @Humphreyhen you've explained it more clearly than my attempt

I’m East Midlands and I say Drawring too

Always used to say it with the 'r' in North Lincolnshire until I started working in an architect's office.

I pronounce all those Rs. I live in Sussex and was born here.

Do I have a rhotic accent? I understand the difference between caht and cart. I definitely pronounce the r

I say draw-ring.

someone’s probably already said this, but I’m assuming it’s because of the intrusive R phenomenon (I think that’s what it’s called, cba to google it). I know that intrusive R refers to R sounds added between two words rather than in the middle of one, but I think the reason why the R is added is the same in this case.

Here we go, curiosity got the better of me and I did google it in the end.

From the Wikipedia on intrusive R…

“Linking R and intrusive R may also occur between a root morpheme and certain suffixes, such as -ing or -al. For instance, in words such as draw(r)ing, withdraw(r)al, or Kafka(r)esque.”

@Humphreyhen , that isn't what I mean. I'm not talking about something like cart with the R only modifying the sound of the A. I mean something like the R in Laura or Rebecca - many say the R but it not in the same way as someone with a rhotic accent.

I don’t know. Just looked it up and it said most modern Sussex accents are non-rhotic. There are rhotic accents in England too, but mostly further west.

I’m in Ireland so I’m not exactly sure what a Sussex accent in general sounds like tbh. And maybe it varies a bit anyway depending on where you are.

I'm Irish as well and pronounce or and oar the same! How do you pronounce or and oar?

@Zempy Not cart, but a voice link for car where you can hear the difference between the UK and Irish speakers. The Irish (rhotic) speaker pronounces the r. The r changes the vowel sound for the English speakers but they don’t pronounce the r sound itself.
https://forvo.com/word/car/

@Zempy , on here, caht is how you say cat [kat], the ah isn't the sound in cart.
[kɑːt]

I say draw rin as one word, I'm in the north West

I can't think how rhotic and non rhotic speakers would say the R in Rebecca differently

In the link I gave above for Orlaith, I pronounce Orlaith exactly as the third speaker does

I pronounce oar the same as the first syllable of Orla/Orlaith.

Ore is said the same way.

Or as a stand-alone word I say more like ur, but if or is at the start of a word like orca or organised I say it like I say the letter r, so R-ka for orca.
I don’t know if that makes any sense.

I’ll try and post the Orlaith link again.

https://forvo.com/word/orlaith/

Oh interesting! Like how some people say Colm as Cullum and some say Collum?

In my accent we say Collum.

Yes, agree, they say it the same way I’d say? Non-rhotic speakers don’t pronounce the r if it comes after a vowel and if there isn’t another vowel following. So the r in Rebecca should be pronounced.

I don't think they would. Rhotic accents pronounce /r/ in all positions. Non-rhotic accents no longer pronounce it what are termed 'postvocalic environments' ie immediately after a vowel when not immediately followed by another vowel.

Both accents pronounce the initial /r/ of Rebecca identically.

The rhotic accent will pronounce all /r/ sounds in 'Rebecca's car'.

The non-rhotic won't pronounce the terminal /r/ of 'car'.

The non-rhotic will often insert a 'linking' /r/ into the phrase 'Rebecca and I' ('RebeccaR and I'). The rhotic will glottalise the same transition between the /a/ at the end of 'Rebecca' and the /a/ at the start of 'and'.

I’m Cull-um. That’s to do with the dialects of the Irish language though. Those o’s are said as u down south in Irish, o further north.
Usheen vs Osheen for Oisín.

Ó is different in Ulster too, hence the differing pronunciations of Órla I guess.
www.teanglann.ie/en/fuaim/%C3%B3r

I can't think how rhotic and non rhotic speakers would say the R in Rebecca differently
@RaraRachael , @Humphreyhen, They don't, which is why I'm saying it.

It's more noticeable in Laura, but in a non-rhotic accent it's almost Lau-wuh.
In a rhotic accent it's a distinct 'R'.

I don’t really hear the difference in non-rhotic and rhotic for Rebecca or Laura. I hear the r when non-rhotic speakers say both those names. The r is pronounced in those positions in words I think.
https://forvo.com/word/laura/
Maybe it depends on the speaker though?

@Humphreyhen , scroll down to the British ones, and if you can't hear the difference then it's you not hearing it. It's definitely not the same as the rhotic ones.

Maybe there is something I’m not hearing so because I have a rhotic accent and I think I say Laura as the British speakers do.

I mean, I pronounce the r in Laura, I don’t roll it or emphasise it particularly? It’s just there.