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Understanding Sarah Ferguson’s loans

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violetpink · 19/10/2025 20:27

Why did she have to borrow money from Epstein, and others I believe?
Andrew is super wealthy and I’m sure she’s made money from her Duchess title, such as talk shows and products she’s endorsed.
i just can’t understand her loans. And why anyone would give her one. And why she has debt.
Hopefully some of you know why.
She lives freely with Andrew so no overheads there. Surely it’s a great no no to borrow money from friends.

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ShenandoahRiver · 22/10/2025 14:40

So the PM has said he would agree with a Select Committee examining the affairs of the Crown Estate.
Let’s see if Charles and William can wriggle their way out of that one.

Pedallleur · 22/10/2025 14:45

ShenandoahRiver · 22/10/2025 14:40

So the PM has said he would agree with a Select Committee examining the affairs of the Crown Estate.
Let’s see if Charles and William can wriggle their way out of that one.

Would depend on who is on the Committee and what their recommendations are. their findings will be measured and at the appropriate juncture will be released for the Govt of the day to consider and reflect on.
In other words Not in your lifetime.

SirRaymondClench · 22/10/2025 14:56

MidnightPatrol · 19/10/2025 21:03

I think she’s from one of those ‘formerly aristocratic but hasn’t got any money left’ families. Blue blood so acceptable as a royal wife, but the family struggled to pay the school fees sort of thing. All about keeping up appearances.

And then hasn’t had much work to speak of, and an expensive lifestyle to support.

I don’t think she has any particular skills / experience she can be paid for, beyond being a former member of the royal family and leveraging that connection…

Sarah never came from an aristocratic background.

Candleface · 22/10/2025 14:57

SirRaymondClench · 22/10/2025 14:56

Sarah never came from an aristocratic background.

She did

thepariscrimefiles · 22/10/2025 15:05

ShenandoahRiver · 21/10/2025 12:04

He hasn’t paid rent for 2 decades???
Seriously ??
So he paid £1m for the lease in 2003 and that runs out in 2078. He paid £7.5m for refurbishments so he is deemed to have paid the rent upfront.
75 year lease at £200000 per annum comes to £15,000,000. Is the balance outstanding ever going to be paid?
Yet more creative accounting from the RF to favour their own - at taxpayer’s expense.

Edited

Someone posted on X:

'Andrew Malkinson spent 17 years in prison for a crime he didn't commit but 'saved living costs' were deducted from his compensation. Prince Andrew lives rent free in a 30-bedroom mansion. Tell me how that can possibly be fair.'

It's all a fucking travesty.

ShenandoahRiver · 22/10/2025 15:07

It is @thepariscrimefiles

CrimsonStoat · 22/10/2025 15:08

From Wikipedia:

"She is a descendant of King Charles II of England via three of his illegitimate children: Charles Lennox, 1st Duke of Richmond; James Scott, 1st Duke of Monmouth;[7] and Anne Lennard, Countess of Sussex. She has aristocratic ancestry, being the great-great-granddaughter of the 6th Duke of Buccleuch, a great-granddaughter of the 8th Viscount Powerscourt, and a descendant of the 1st Duke of Abercorn and the 4th Duke of Devonshire.[5][8] Ferguson is distantly related to Prince Andrew, as they are both descended from the Duke of Devonshire as well as King James VI and I.[5]"

CrimsonStoat · 22/10/2025 15:17

ShenandoahRiver · 22/10/2025 14:40

So the PM has said he would agree with a Select Committee examining the affairs of the Crown Estate.
Let’s see if Charles and William can wriggle their way out of that one.

Has he?

BBC reporting suggests he said just that it was important for proper scrutiny. Did he go as far as to say he agreed to a Select Committee?

Sir Ed called for a select committee inquiry to "properly scrutinise" the Crown Estate, with Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer replying that it was important there was proper scrutiny of all Crown properties.

Apparently this was the exchange, so no he hasn't.

"Sir Ed said: “Will the Prime Minister support a select committee inquiry, so all those involved can be called for evidence, including the current occupant?”

The Prime Minister said: “It’s important in relation to all Crown properties that there is proper scrutiny, and I certainly support that."”

ShenandoahRiver · 22/10/2025 15:25

@CrimsonStoat
I stand corrected
Let’s hope that the more information comes to light about the RF’s murky financial wheeling and dealing that the government will bow to public pressure and begin the process of full scrutiny.

CrimsonStoat · 22/10/2025 15:27

ShenandoahRiver · 22/10/2025 15:25

@CrimsonStoat
I stand corrected
Let’s hope that the more information comes to light about the RF’s murky financial wheeling and dealing that the government will bow to public pressure and begin the process of full scrutiny.

I think his answer makes it look like he might be saying that, and I imagine at a later date he'd go on to say there was already proper scrutiny.

So the facade of agreeing but not really.

He'd probably leave it up to the RF to investigate themselves if pushed!

Pedallleur · 22/10/2025 19:46

That was a great diplomatic answer worthy of Sir Humphrey Appleby. Appeared to agree but actually said nothing and committed to nothing. Starmer will meet Charlie this week and no doubt the subject may be broached over Earl Grey and Duchy biscuits

CrimsonStoat · 22/10/2025 20:15

Pedallleur · 22/10/2025 19:46

That was a great diplomatic answer worthy of Sir Humphrey Appleby. Appeared to agree but actually said nothing and committed to nothing. Starmer will meet Charlie this week and no doubt the subject may be broached over Earl Grey and Duchy biscuits

Yes, it really was!

Rhaidimiddim · 24/10/2025 09:18

SirRaymondClench · 22/10/2025 14:56

Sarah never came from an aristocratic background.

She was a descendant of the Duke of Buccleuch, but great (or great-great) grand child.

SirRaymondClench · 24/10/2025 14:01

Rhaidimiddim · 24/10/2025 09:18

She was a descendant of the Duke of Buccleuch, but great (or great-great) grand child.

Extremely distant and very tenuous.
Sarah was deemed a commoner when she married Andrew, she definitely was never considered an aristocrat.

PrincessSophieFrederike · 24/10/2025 14:08

SirRaymondClench · 24/10/2025 14:01

Extremely distant and very tenuous.
Sarah was deemed a commoner when she married Andrew, she definitely was never considered an aristocrat.

A commoner is just any non-royal though, Diana was also deemed a commoner & she was definitely aristocratic.

janamo · 24/10/2025 14:12

What the heck is an aristrocrat anyway? Someone who tilts their nose up, holds their china cup with a horizontal pinkie?

I always picture anyone with delusions of grandeur sitting on the toilet, undies around the ankles, and straining with constipation. That levels it out.

PrincessSophieFrederike · 24/10/2025 15:15

janamo · 24/10/2025 14:12

What the heck is an aristrocrat anyway? Someone who tilts their nose up, holds their china cup with a horizontal pinkie?

I always picture anyone with delusions of grandeur sitting on the toilet, undies around the ankles, and straining with constipation. That levels it out.

Exactly 🤣 The main point is Satah's loathsome doings. Her class status is really irrelevant.

Rhaidimiddim · 24/10/2025 18:15

SirRaymondClench · 24/10/2025 14:01

Extremely distant and very tenuous.
Sarah was deemed a commoner when she married Andrew, she definitely was never considered an aristocrat.

So was Diana. The term "commoner" means anyone not royal, so aristocrats also count as "commoners".

Hanschristiananderson · 24/10/2025 19:28

Rhaidimiddim · 24/10/2025 18:15

So was Diana. The term "commoner" means anyone not royal, so aristocrats also count as "commoners".

No an aristocrat is definitely not a commoner.

Hanschristiananderson · 24/10/2025 19:28

PrincessSophieFrederike · 24/10/2025 14:08

A commoner is just any non-royal though, Diana was also deemed a commoner & she was definitely aristocratic.

No she wasn’t .

Algen · 24/10/2025 19:38

Hanschristiananderson · 24/10/2025 19:28

No she wasn’t .

Wasn’t deemed a commoner or wasn’t aristocratic? She was definitely born into the aristocracy.

YoudonemessedupAyAyRon · 24/10/2025 20:16

Yes Lady Diana Spencer was a commoner, albeit an aristocratic one. Anyone not of royal blood and not a peer of the realm in their own right (duke, marquess, earl, viscount, or baron) is a commoner. Diana was a "lady" by virtue of her father's status, so not in her own right.

Vitriolinsanity · 24/10/2025 20:38

I think Sarah, as DGM would say, is just common.

PrincessSophieFrederike · 24/10/2025 21:13

YoudonemessedupAyAyRon · 24/10/2025 20:16

Yes Lady Diana Spencer was a commoner, albeit an aristocratic one. Anyone not of royal blood and not a peer of the realm in their own right (duke, marquess, earl, viscount, or baron) is a commoner. Diana was a "lady" by virtue of her father's status, so not in her own right.

Yep, that's what I meant

PrincessSophieFrederike · 24/10/2025 21:13

Vitriolinsanity · 24/10/2025 20:38

I think Sarah, as DGM would say, is just common.

Exactly 🤣

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