Page 7 | Ian Watkins murdered in jail

Thingyfanding1 · 12/10/2025 19:15

Bigpinksweater · 11/10/2025 21:39

I just had a Quick Look and there were 7 prisoners murdered in the last year. Comparatively, 8 prison guards have been murdered since 1850, the last one being in 1965. So while that’s a bit of a blunt instrument, and I’m absolutely not downplaying guard injuries, it seems the prisoners are selective when it comes to victims and guards are not a popular choice.

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Thanks for providing the stats.
There are some very naive people posting on this thread ‘shocked’ that something like this could happen. I’m surprised it doesn’t happen more! The drones flying in and out of these places bringing a multitude of contraband.

PolkaDotPorridge · 12/10/2025 19:17

Literally the best news!

ladygindiva · 12/10/2025 19:38

Bigpinksweater · 12/10/2025 15:17

So an adult man was dealing potentially fatal Class A drugs and got a few years in jail? And you’re outraged by that?

And you think dealing class A drugs was a ‘silly mistake’ like forgetting to book an MOT on time?

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A 19 year old is barely an adult. I think it would be a sad state of affairs if everyone who's ever picked up a few Es for some friends on a night out was locked up and written off. Didn't say I was outraged by the way. I think it was wrong. And yes, I see it as a silly mistake. He wasn't raping children or intentionally inflicting harm on anyone.

ladygindiva · 12/10/2025 19:39

DriveVerySlowlyPastNumber23IWantThemToSeeMyHat · 12/10/2025 17:55

No, they're better inside. At least inside, they're only offering to adults. Out in the community, children are at risk.

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Most drug dealers do only sell to adults. Not that that makes it right.

ladygindiva · 12/10/2025 19:39

Mistyglade · 12/10/2025 16:58

Being locked up for drugs offences is not going to rehabilitate, you think there aren’t drugs inside? I say a whack of community service might serve that type of person better. They might even learn something about the damage caused by it.

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I agree

AnyoneWhoHasAHeart · 12/10/2025 20:17

ladygindiva · 12/10/2025 19:38

A 19 year old is barely an adult. I think it would be a sad state of affairs if everyone who's ever picked up a few Es for some friends on a night out was locked up and written off. Didn't say I was outraged by the way. I think it was wrong. And yes, I see it as a silly mistake. He wasn't raping children or intentionally inflicting harm on anyone.

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You’re naive if you think that he was jailed for simply “picking up a few E’s for friends on a night out.”

Sounds like my cousin who “was looking after them for a friend,” and then bingo. Two years on the inside.

you don’t get a few years for having a few E’s.

As for “19 is barely an adult,”. Either it’s an adult, or it isn’t.

I mean at 19 he could drive, vote, get married, drink, but hey if he’s dealing drugs then we should give him a break because he was barely an adult?

And if we’re going to go back to that “the brain isn’t fully formed” tripe which people trot out whenever they seek to justify someone’s stupid or irresponsible, or in this case criminal behaviour, then maybe we need to move the goalposts then.

Maybe the age of consent ought to be 25? How about the age to vote? Have sex? No credit (although I actually wouldn’t disagree with that one),

19 is an adult.

And given that James ulger’s killers were 10 and were tried as adults, while I don’t agree with that, at 19 he knew what he was doing.

Pedallleur · 12/10/2025 20:22

TheFoodLife · 12/10/2025 15:16

It’s nice that we don’t have to continue to pay money to feed and house him. Interesting that it happened now… why not sooner? Presumably some motive other than altruism.

Supposedly inmates were upset he was allowed to see his new gf and her seven year old daughter

DriveVerySlowlyPastNumber23IWantThemToSeeMyHat · 12/10/2025 20:59

ladygindiva · 12/10/2025 19:38

A 19 year old is barely an adult. I think it would be a sad state of affairs if everyone who's ever picked up a few Es for some friends on a night out was locked up and written off. Didn't say I was outraged by the way. I think it was wrong. And yes, I see it as a silly mistake. He wasn't raping children or intentionally inflicting harm on anyone.

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Barely an adult but they can legally drive, get married, drink etc... don't be so ridiculous. I knew drugs were wrong at 12, as did my friends.

A silly mistake is forgetting the milk on the weekly shop. Dealing drugs is not a silly mistake.

GRCP · 12/10/2025 21:16

He wasn’t killed because he was an evil nonce, he was killed because he owed money for drugs. They put up the price and he refused to pay on principle. He had enough money to live out his days high as a kite. I don’t think 29 years was nearly long enough a sentence for what he did to those children. They’ll never be free.

ladygindiva · 12/10/2025 22:39

DriveVerySlowlyPastNumber23IWantThemToSeeMyHat · 12/10/2025 20:59

Barely an adult but they can legally drive, get married, drink etc... don't be so ridiculous. I knew drugs were wrong at 12, as did my friends.

A silly mistake is forgetting the milk on the weekly shop. Dealing drugs is not a silly mistake.

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Huge numbers of young people now and in the past, have taken drugs and go on to be productive members of society.... If you don't realise this you're the ridiculous one.

ladygindiva · 12/10/2025 22:41

AnyoneWhoHasAHeart · 12/10/2025 20:17

You’re naive if you think that he was jailed for simply “picking up a few E’s for friends on a night out.”

Sounds like my cousin who “was looking after them for a friend,” and then bingo. Two years on the inside.

you don’t get a few years for having a few E’s.

As for “19 is barely an adult,”. Either it’s an adult, or it isn’t.

I mean at 19 he could drive, vote, get married, drink, but hey if he’s dealing drugs then we should give him a break because he was barely an adult?

And if we’re going to go back to that “the brain isn’t fully formed” tripe which people trot out whenever they seek to justify someone’s stupid or irresponsible, or in this case criminal behaviour, then maybe we need to move the goalposts then.

Maybe the age of consent ought to be 25? How about the age to vote? Have sex? No credit (although I actually wouldn’t disagree with that one),

19 is an adult.

And given that James ulger’s killers were 10 and were tried as adults, while I don’t agree with that, at 19 he knew what he was doing.

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I don't recall ever saying he should be given a break. There's an awful lot of over excited posters putting words into my mouth. Do calm down.

pumpkinscake · 12/10/2025 22:48

Notmymarmosets · 11/10/2025 20:24

I think it's disgusting that in a rich country, we cannot keep our prisoners safe. If someone as high profile as him can be killed, anyone could be. I don't wish that for our prisoners.
Unfortunately it's not a rarity by any means and 5+ prisoners are murdered most years, with dozens more near misses.
And if you have never had cause to worry about the safety of someone in prison, then you are incredibly privileged and probably would do well not to comment.

I agree. I am not shedding any tears for him, but prison should not be a death sentence

Nat6999 · 13/10/2025 04:50

Even in VP wings there is a pyramid of prisoners according to crime, offenders who have physically assaulted women & children of murder them are classed as the lowest of the low, there are prisoners on these units who are there because they have racked up drug debts as well as grasses who will most likely be disgusted & horrified at the crimes Watkins committed. From what I have read he was attacked because of money, so it could be a drug, phone or canteen debt, that is why the first rule new prisoners are taught is don't borrow or run up any kind of debt. I hope that whoever attacked him are prisoners serving a long sentence so that any sentence they are given for his murder is set to run concurrently with what they were already serving, they really have done the world a favour getting rid of him.

Mischance · 13/10/2025 06:30

It is very worrying that there is general acceptance that drugs are freely available in prison .... which of course they are.
It puzzles me that nothing is done about it.

Prison staff just accept it as a fact of life.

Restlessinthenorth · 13/10/2025 17:18

All those of you that were so gleeful over this institutional failing. I'm wondering if you have now read the offending history of the pair that have done this and feel good about wanting to elevate them into some kind of urban heroes? They are equally as depraved as Watkins.

Sunshineandrainbow · 13/10/2025 19:43

Mischance · 13/10/2025 06:30

It is very worrying that there is general acceptance that drugs are freely available in prison .... which of course they are.
It puzzles me that nothing is done about it.

Prison staff just accept it as a fact of life.

Absolutely and some prison staff making a good income from taking the drugs in with them.

fatphalange · 13/10/2025 19:53

Restlessinthenorth · 13/10/2025 17:18

All those of you that were so gleeful over this institutional failing. I'm wondering if you have now read the offending history of the pair that have done this and feel good about wanting to elevate them into some kind of urban heroes? They are equally as depraved as Watkins.

I don’t think anyone with functioning brain cells was ever in doubt about this. 1) they wouldn’t be there in the first place if they weren’t wrongens and 2) they are evidently murderers. They might not have done much good in their lives, but they got something right at least 🤷🏻‍♀️

Restlessinthenorth · 13/10/2025 20:28

Between them found guilty of repeated rapes, kidnapping and murder. Highly likely they killed him for a drug debt, not because of any sense of revulsion for his crimes. If people are happy that Watkins be murdered in a British prison, it suggests they would be equally as happy for these men to be murdered, and many others too. The mindset of people who think that murder taking place in state run facilities is something to celebrate is just madness.