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Ian Watkins murdered in jail

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Daphnedot · 11/10/2025 17:30

I can't say im sad about it

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Wowthatwasabigstep · 12/10/2025 08:01

He was a vile human being, who would have remained a very high and real threat and risk to children. There was a previous attempt on his life, natural justice has been served in my opinion.

I am very glad that money that I pay in income tax no longer funds his existence for how ever many years he would have been imprisoned.

Bigpinksweater · 12/10/2025 08:02

TheGreatWesternShrew · 11/10/2025 23:33

I really hate that British prisons have such a problem with violence. If someone can be murdered inside a maximum security prison then where is anyone safe?

However as people have said I’m not upset about that on Watkin’s account but on the principle of the matter. Couldn’t care less what happened to that man.

You say it like maximum security prisons aren’t inherently dangerous

DriveVerySlowlyPastNumber23IWantThemToSeeMyHat · 12/10/2025 08:03

I remember going to see Lost Prophets live when I was 16. I managed to get to the front and there was something very unnerving about him.

Bigpinksweater · 12/10/2025 08:16

Noodledog · 11/10/2025 23:45

That's awful, very sad to read. In positive news, a child rapist will not be released to rape more children.

This is my overriding concern. There was always a possibility he would be paroled (the boards can make amazingly stupid decisions, look at Colin Pitchfork - double child murderer), or escape.

The chances of those things are now 0.

DrowningInSyrup · 12/10/2025 08:47

TheFormidableMrsC · 11/10/2025 21:38

People don’t go to prison for “silly mistakes”. He raped a baby. That is not a silly mistake. Never mind the rest of his rap sheet. People like him are targeted in prison. I have zero sympathy. Child killers/rapists get what they deserve.

I think some people do go to prison for mistakes, often fina cial and often out of desperation.

I think prisons should be reserved for violent criminals, anything else can be dealt with by community service.

Am I glad he is dead, yes. Do I worry for the safety of prison staff and the above mentioned non violent prisoners...also yes.

Bigpinksweater · 12/10/2025 08:53

DrowningInSyrup · 12/10/2025 08:47

I think some people do go to prison for mistakes, often fina cial and often out of desperation.

I think prisons should be reserved for violent criminals, anything else can be dealt with by community service.

Am I glad he is dead, yes. Do I worry for the safety of prison staff and the above mentioned non violent prisoners...also yes.

Can I have just 1 example of these silly and minor mistakes resulting in a jail sentence please?

DrowningInSyrup · 12/10/2025 08:59

Bigpinksweater · 12/10/2025 08:53

Can I have just 1 example of these silly and minor mistakes resulting in a jail sentence please?

I didn't say silly. One example I remember off the top of my head www.theguardian.com/money/2019/apr/12/woman-jailed-council-tax-bill-she-could-not-pay

EleanorReally · 12/10/2025 09:00

I am shocked it took so long

AnyoneWhoHasAHeart · 12/10/2025 09:05

There are two separate discussion points here.

Watkins’ death is no loss to society. I don’t agree with the death penalty, but should a criminal of his ilk die by different means then so be it.

However, a criminal being murdered by another criminal is nothing to celebrate.

Prisoners don’t murder paedophiles, child killers etc out of any sense of moral justice. Not one of the murderers in that prison has any sense of what’s right and wrong, hence why they too are in said prison.

When someone in a prison kills or attacks a paedophile they gain notoriety from having done so. Greater respect from their fellow prisoners, safety from attack themselves even because they’re seen as someone who did in a notorious pedo.

We have no idea what any of those prisoners are in there for. Maybe for murdering their wives, someone’s grandmother, someone’s son or daughter. Maybe for rape, the list of equally reprehensible crimes is endless, and yet we feel those same people should be celebrated because they killed a paedophile?

What if Watkins had murdered someone who had committed an equally serious or even worse crime than him. Would he be seen as a hero then instead of the despicable individual he was?

I couldn’t care less that he’s dead. But two wrongs don’t make a right.

smilingfanatic · 12/10/2025 09:25

In 2019, 1 in 10 held in prison on remand were found innocent. This statistic disproportionately affects those from the BAME communities.

https://www.fairtrials.org/articles/news/uk-thousands-held-prison-longer-legal-time-limit-while-awaiting-trial/

The NAO reported that in September 2022, 32% of the remand population had been held on remand beyond the custody time limit of 6 months, and 5% had been on remand for more than two years.

https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm5901/cmselect/cmpubacc/348/report.html

In 31 March 2025 remand population figure was 17,582.

https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/offender-management-statistics-quarterly-october-to-december-2024/offender-management-statistics-quarterly-october-to-december-2024

People on remand currently make up more than one in seven people in prison (17%).

Almost half (49%) of all people who entered prison on remand to await trial in 2022 were accused of non-violent offences—18% for drug offences and 11% for summary non-motoring offences.

One in 10 people (10%) remanded into custody by the magistrates’ courts in 2022 were subsequently acquitted. A further 11% of people received a non-custodial sentence.

https://prisonreformtrust.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/prison_the_facts_2023.pdf

BrainlessBoiledFrog · 12/10/2025 09:26

I’m personally glad. He was a vile human being and clearly escalating in his depravity which was dominant, aggressive and without normal human compassion. He preyed on babies and weak women. This is a human incapable of ever being safely released but yet the law would have eventually allowed it and no doubt all that would happen is he’d have gone abroad to a poorer country with less scrutiny. Then god knows how many babies would have suffered, possibly died. He is dead and now can never do this. I also think any pedo currently standing trial will feel that bit more nervous about what prison holds for them which I’m glad of too.

Prisons are still full of normal people who have committed crimes of poverty, poor education, and life traps. A lot of low level drug dealing, and financial crimes involve a prison sentence. People like him spend their lives on special wings at extremely high costs. The law and prisons are not about rightness, morality, or fairness. They are deterrents but people like that vile monster and others like him will not be deterred. So I am glad from a moral standpoint that he is dead - the world is a safer, better place without him.

ladygindiva · 12/10/2025 11:55

Bigpinksweater · 12/10/2025 08:53

Can I have just 1 example of these silly and minor mistakes resulting in a jail sentence please?

An ex boyfriend of mine was sentenced to several years inside for dealing ecstasy. It was in the immediate wake of the Leah Betts tragedy. An example was being made of him. He was 19 years old and by his own admission an idiot who thought drugs were cool and didn't think through the consequences of his actions. Not minor, you might argue, but definitely silly, and not a crime that made him a dangerous person.

DriveVerySlowlyPastNumber23IWantThemToSeeMyHat · 12/10/2025 13:39

ladygindiva · 12/10/2025 11:55

An ex boyfriend of mine was sentenced to several years inside for dealing ecstasy. It was in the immediate wake of the Leah Betts tragedy. An example was being made of him. He was 19 years old and by his own admission an idiot who thought drugs were cool and didn't think through the consequences of his actions. Not minor, you might argue, but definitely silly, and not a crime that made him a dangerous person.

A drug dealer that's not a dangerous person? Really?

MummytoE · 12/10/2025 15:10

ladygindiva · 12/10/2025 11:55

An ex boyfriend of mine was sentenced to several years inside for dealing ecstasy. It was in the immediate wake of the Leah Betts tragedy. An example was being made of him. He was 19 years old and by his own admission an idiot who thought drugs were cool and didn't think through the consequences of his actions. Not minor, you might argue, but definitely silly, and not a crime that made him a dangerous person.

This can't be serious

AnyoneWhoHasAHeart · 12/10/2025 15:13

ladygindiva · 12/10/2025 11:55

An ex boyfriend of mine was sentenced to several years inside for dealing ecstasy. It was in the immediate wake of the Leah Betts tragedy. An example was being made of him. He was 19 years old and by his own admission an idiot who thought drugs were cool and didn't think through the consequences of his actions. Not minor, you might argue, but definitely silly, and not a crime that made him a dangerous person.

Silly? For dealing ecstasy?

He didn’t go to jail because an example was made of him, he went to jail because he was a drug dealer, associating with other drug dealers, people who have no value for life, or consideration for who dies by buying the drugs they sell.

Did he sell outside school gates? To teenagers in clubs?

While he might not have been dangerous in terms of being a violent person himself, drug dealing isn’t a minor offence. So let’s not minimise that shall we?

TheFoodLife · 12/10/2025 15:16

It’s nice that we don’t have to continue to pay money to feed and house him. Interesting that it happened now… why not sooner? Presumably some motive other than altruism.

Bigpinksweater · 12/10/2025 15:17

ladygindiva · 12/10/2025 11:55

An ex boyfriend of mine was sentenced to several years inside for dealing ecstasy. It was in the immediate wake of the Leah Betts tragedy. An example was being made of him. He was 19 years old and by his own admission an idiot who thought drugs were cool and didn't think through the consequences of his actions. Not minor, you might argue, but definitely silly, and not a crime that made him a dangerous person.

So an adult man was dealing potentially fatal Class A drugs and got a few years in jail? And you’re outraged by that?

And you think dealing class A drugs was a ‘silly mistake’ like forgetting to book an MOT on time?

StrawberryJangle · 12/10/2025 15:20

Throat cut.

I hope in that short time he suffered and was frightened and in pain.

I always think of Fearne Cotton when he comes up. I hope she has a good therapist.

StrawberryJangle · 12/10/2025 15:24

The prison is nicknamed Monster Mansion.
You're not going there for not paying your council tax.

I'm surprised it took so long too.

Attempted rape of a baby... I do congratulate that lifer that took his.
Same with Ian Huntley.

Bigpinksweater · 12/10/2025 15:25

StrawberryJangle · 12/10/2025 15:24

The prison is nicknamed Monster Mansion.
You're not going there for not paying your council tax.

I'm surprised it took so long too.

Attempted rape of a baby... I do congratulate that lifer that took his.
Same with Ian Huntley.

Ian Huntley is sadly still alive.

Missey85 · 12/10/2025 15:32

Let's give a medal to the person that did it 👏👏

Mistyglade · 12/10/2025 16:58

Bigpinksweater · 12/10/2025 15:17

So an adult man was dealing potentially fatal Class A drugs and got a few years in jail? And you’re outraged by that?

And you think dealing class A drugs was a ‘silly mistake’ like forgetting to book an MOT on time?

Being locked up for drugs offences is not going to rehabilitate, you think there aren’t drugs inside? I say a whack of community service might serve that type of person better. They might even learn something about the damage caused by it.

AnyoneWhoHasAHeart · 12/10/2025 17:03

Missey85 · 12/10/2025 15:32

Let's give a medal to the person that did it 👏👏

what was the prisoner who killed him in there for?

I mean do you think that a rapist/murderer in their own right should receive a medal?

You think the kind of person who cuts someone’s throat is a good person because it was Ian Watkins?

How many other throats is that person guilty of cutting in the past?

Honestly, the people who think that prisoners who murder other prisoners are somehow heroes because of who those prisoners are are just stupid.

DriveVerySlowlyPastNumber23IWantThemToSeeMyHat · 12/10/2025 17:55

Mistyglade · 12/10/2025 16:58

Being locked up for drugs offences is not going to rehabilitate, you think there aren’t drugs inside? I say a whack of community service might serve that type of person better. They might even learn something about the damage caused by it.

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No, they're better inside. At least inside, they're only offering to adults. Out in the community, children are at risk.

Autumngirl5 · 12/10/2025 19:04

Missey85 · 12/10/2025 15:32

Let's give a medal to the person that did it 👏👏

Do you really want to live in a country where prisoners are killing each other? I know I don’t.

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