Ian Watkins murdered in jail

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I can't say im sad about it

But nobody is suggesting that murder in prison should be legal. We’re just saying we don’t feel sad about it.

And I completely agree with that @Bigpinksweater

That's death's not injuries, permanent disfigurement etc.

I think the 29 years with eligibility for parole in 2031 is what makes a mockery of the system and calls into question the concept of justice.

Well, he won’t be eligible for parole now..

Well said.

God how awful.

I agree with PPs saying that they don’t care about him, but that doesn’t mean prison violence is desirable. If for no other reason than we do actually need people to work in prisons.

Given the seriousness of the crimes of most of the prisoners held at the prison where he was murdered, it's astonishing that so few come to harm.

For this, we have the prison officers and leadership to thank.

Hardly an incredible privilege.

Look, prison violence is a fact of prison life. Not because it’s desirable, or because it’s legal, or because prisons do nothing to stop it. But because throwing thousands of highly violent and dangerous men together for years at a time, 24 hours a day, makes every interaction hard to monitor. If we have 7 prison deaths a year, and a gen pop of 97,000 prisoners, then that’s 1 in every 14,000 prisoners being murdered which is a bloody miracle.

I’m not going to mourn him. He was a despicable man.
However, prisoners should not be killed when incarcerated. This was a high security prison. The offenders will all be dangerous and have committed high level crimes. The man who killed him included in that.

Having just read that the person who died pleaded guilty to attempting to rape an 11 month old baby, their death in prison via another inmate is not something I’m going to lose too much sleep about.

Good fucking riddance

29 officers were murdered as a result of their work at The Maze / Long Kesh.

Then NI needs better security policies

That's more than blasé,the NI terrorist organisations were a formidable and determined opponent to both police and prison officers.

Good.

If someone could sort out the creatures who willingly sacrificed their babies to him as well that'd be grand.

2 men now arrested

Hope it hurt and that he was terrified for a prolonged time before his black soul finally left earth.

Chuck his corpse in landfill where it belongs.

What have they got to do with this? Why not use examples from Brazil, or China, or Panama? We’re discussing our legal system here in England and Wales.

I was answering your quote..That NI needed better security procedures.
You really don't have a clue.

Oh and NI is part of the UK.

@Bigpinksweater I didn't see you referring to just England & Wales. It's logical to assume you were referring to UK while downplaying the dangers prison officers face in prisons with mob rule.

Likening NI to Brazil or Panama is an interesting one....

But England has a different legal system to NI and given this crime happened in Yorkshire, I thought that was obvious? Or did you not know?

I’m still waiting to see which ‘silly mistakes’ can have a person of previous good character find themselves in prison for?