Fuck OFF Elon Musk

[noblegiraffe]

Elon Musk appeared via video link today at Tommy Robinson's Racist March wittering on about woke mind viruses and calling for the dissolution of parliament.

All I really want to say is FUCK OFF ELON MUSK.

Oh FFS - ‘inequality’…when will you learn.

Try to social engineer all you like - people are not homogenous. Some are doers, some are entrepreneurs, some work hard and/or smart, some take risk, some study hard, some don’t make bad life choice after bad life choice.

The inequality card is such a cop out. Reduce everyone to zero, and see where that gets you.

I'm not telling Elon Musk to fuck off because I don't agree with him, I'm telling him to fuck off because he is a foreigner trying to meddle in the politics of our country

absolutely

So what you're saying is people need to take responsibility for their own life outcomes. And not use immigrants as a whipping post for their woes. I think we may actually agree a little on something. Wonders will never cease.

I have never deviated from that view - it’s what I taught my DC, and it’s how I behaved in business.

My mantra is, and remains - own it.

And for the record, I do not consider immigration to be the most pressing issue facing this government. I condemn racism, hate, and violence.

Happy that we are otherwise in agreement.

I do believe immigration in some areas has been problematic. Obviously housing is one. It’s inevitable but it’s a trade off for them working and being productive people. Most are and want to be.
@noblegiraffe I hope your maths pupils do well.

I’d be willing to wager most of the racists who gathered in London weren’t Londoners. I think it’s an embarrassment and the police should disburse them with force. Out of towners drinking on trains since early morning, brawling and generally being unpleasant, in one the most multicultural cities in the world. Elon Musk, riling up the povvos and watching them go, vile.

Housing is a weird one because you could get rid of every single immigrant and it wouldn't make a difference to house prices/rents. We do need to build more houses but even doing that won't stop housing getting more expensive (renting and buying). In theory probably the amount of credit people can take to buy houses has driven prices up but even if the banks radically reduced their mortgage offer house prices would keep going up at this stage (maybe after a blip).
The problem is housing is both an essential for everyone AND an asset. And it's a source of income if you are a large landlord. And increasingly the landlords aren't even rich landlords complaining in the Telegraph but really large investment firms. Who are almost too big to fail without bringing down ordinary people (like banks in 2008) so it's not even like you can hope they just collapse. It's a really huge problem that is going to keep getting worse. The arguments about immigration are a distraction from talking about the root causes but it makes sense because noone really has a clear way to fix the root causes.

No, of course they weren't all Londoners.
They were people from all across the country.
And you think that they shouldn't be allowed to protest? They should be disbursed with force for daring to speak out?
Including the families with children?

What a vile attitude!

Yep - go and protest in your own backwater. Drop litter on your streets, inconvenience your local police force. It could sound like I’m telling you to go home? You don’t like that?

Exactly this. The veneration of sadists and tech bros by these scumbags is disgusting.

Do they really think Elon and Farage are going to protect the NHS? Do they fuck. It’s just an excuse for angry, useless men to be violent without consequence.

What I don't like are people who try to shut others up, don't want them to have their say.
Wonder what your agenda is to want families removed with force?

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You are wrong on this one. The population of the UK in the 90s was about 58 million. Now it is about 68 million. The 10 million difference is the population of a small-ish country like Austria or the Czech Republic. It is a massive population growth, so all these people have to live somewhere and the demand in housing is huge. The more the demand, the more expensive the accommodations and property prices. (Remember the price of an average two-bedroom flat in London back in the 90s and the price of the same flat now?)
It always astonishes me when people don’t see the correlation and don’t understand this.

13% "Like foreign interference" 😂. WTF is wrong with people. I suspect these are the same people shouting "stop the boats".

The irony.

Yeah. lets all think like you.
Alternatively, you could just ignore him.

We have a democratically elected Parliament and government. They can be voted out in the next election.

There are plenty of government policies I disagree with, currently and in the past.

I do not want to live in a dictatorship, so even when I disagree with the elected government I do not agree with it being overthrown.

That is why I object to Elon Musk - because once you go down the route of a violent minority having more power than the peaceful majority the majority is worse off. The first to feel it will be the scapegoats (immigrants) but once the initial scapegoats have been removed there will be a need for new scapegoats - and that might include you.

When people voted “Like foreign interference” they didn’t mean the interference of the boat people and the countries they are coming from. Duh! They mean interference from other democratic and westernised countries who are in favour of free speech.
Are you 5? 🙄

So posters are OK with Musk, not a citizen of the UK, not resident in the UK, telling citizens they must 'fight or die', calling for dissolution of a democratically elected government and for revolution. And posters are OK with that?

Nobody is reducing anyone to zero. When will you learn. Look at the massive transfer of resources to the very top since covid. Then think for 5 minutes what that means for the economy. I’m not talking about people who study hard or earn a reasonable - or even very high - salary. I’m talking about the super rich. (Though as ever, if you think you work harder than a carer, maybe try it for a bit. I know I couldn’t hack it).

If you want to be small minded, why not do it in your own village? Where others are more likely to share your vision. Elon Musk, an American billionaire, is manipulating you (and other foolish types), it’s a shame you don’t have the capacity to see what others do.

That should read, 'have' not "has".

Calls to violence are wholly unacceptable, and should be condemned.

Non-state actors criticising the UK government - completely acceptable.

How are asylum seekers interfering with British politics?

Do you have any examples?

It's because they're thick and don't understand basic concepts such as supply and demand.

"Housing is a weird one because you could get rid of every single immigrant and it wouldn't make a difference to house prices/rents."

Approximately 20-25% of the UK population is foreign born or a child with two foreign born parents.

That's 13.6 to 17 million people that wouldn't need housing.

Your views please, on the UK’s public finances, namely the largest line item -
Health and social care, in addition to debt servicing.