No-one is mentioning Trump's stroke

[CharlotteCChapel]

It's like tumbleweed out there. During the live televised 9/11 remembrance service Trump's face drooped on one side.

No-one in the mainstream media seems to be mentioning it.

Ive only seen it mentioned on IHIP and the Meidas Touch.

Like who though? You won’t name anyone.

All I’ve seen are anonymous accounts and bots.

Hardly when folks have been rabbiting about ihem across the board for two days . Became so monotonously regurgitated id decided it was bots attempting hypnosis through repetition.

I do think if someone was speaking to Kirk in a respectful way, that he could have probably understood that a ten-year-old is unlikely to be able to give birth safely and will require an abortion in the end.

Instead it was asked as a ‘gotcha’ question and this is a huge problem. We are always talking past each other.

How are you missing it?

Hey I clicked on those links. None of them poured hate on Ms Hortman. It was all directed at Gov Walz. So not the same as wishing death on Trump or Vance or whoever else is the hate figure of the day.

Yeah I could have phrased that better, admittedly

Trouble is who sets the syllabus and what slant do they put on it?

Maybe she is a Christian. Christians do not believe in abortion regardless of circumstances. This is hyperbolic. A catch you out situation, 'what would you do it your 9 year old was raped and got pregnant'. So they can say ow what a bad person you are for saying keep the baby. Firstly the likelihood of a 9 year old becoming pregnant is very slim being most won't start periods at that age. Secondly as a Christian he has to say no to abortion regardless of the circumstances. You can't pick and choose which circumstances are OK to murder a baby because that is how they see it. The baby is the innocent and has no one to speak for it. Maybe you won't understand this view point, you don't have to but it does not make him a bad person because the murder of a baby is an evil act. Rape is an evil act but you are putting that evil act on to the wrong person for not wanting another evil act to come from it. It's thankfully an extremely unlikely scenario.

At what point does an adult man think his religious views should supercede the care of a vulnerable child? What has conditioned him to be this way?
Over zealous preachers?
Patriarchy?
Ego?
Politicians?
Some other force?

I gave several examples.
The TMZ Crew.
The broadcaster (granted he was fired)
(Just looked it up, Matthew Dowd)
The president-elect of the Oxford Union (George Abaraonye)

They were dismissed as ‘not being politicians’

I also, clearly and numerously, said that my real discomfort was the pervasiveness among everyday people.
School teachers, healthcare professionals and the like.

I can provide endless links and examples, but can’t be arsed, because you will find some reason or not to dismiss them and tell me why they ‘don’t count’.

I can’t be bothered to go out of my way for someone who’s just trying to ‘gotcha’ me

Abortion isn't 'murdering a baby'. HTH

But yeah, I’m with you in the sense I would not want a rapist scumbag to reproduce with my own flesh and blood.

THAT's the bit you're worried about?

Over time I've become fairly inured to the extreme stuff that gets said on here. But that's have actually managed to shock me.

We're discussing a 9-year-old child's body being forced to carry a pregnancy – and the bit that leaps out to you is you wouldn't want your descendants reproducing with a scumbag?

I just can't even...

Jill Biden was culpable for the way her husband was used.

Rather odd to keep banging on about all this evidence you have, then stomping your feet and refusing to provide any of it.

And Biden himself?

And mine

Why don’t you have a look?

I hardly think the TMZ crew in the US, one US analyst and one university student represent 'pervasiveness among everyday people.'

If that's the best you could come up then it shows that it really isn't pervasive.

Having gone through childbirth several times, I know the toll it takes.

But my actual point is that Charlie would have seen the fetus as a blessing from god, I could
never see it as anything but a rapist’s spawn.

It’s just a completely different POV and not one that is reconcilable.

It’s literally how they see it.

Edexcel. Are you saying that those things didn’t happen in 1930s Germany? I didn’t realise that what have, until recently, been uniformly agreed reasons why the Nazis were able to secure a victory at the ballot box, were now up for debate.

You don't think he could have researched that himself? The risks are not exactly unknown.

Or don't you accept that he believed what he was saying?

It's grotesque, isn't it? Notice the zero condemnation for the actual rapist.

Literally.

The thing is I’ve been drawn into providing links etc before, and people just dismiss them, or attack the source or whatever.
I know this poster has no interest in seeing links, because if they were they’d see them. They’re not hard to find.

Can't agree there. He's young full of vigor. He could go two terms