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Labour isn't working - Thread 8

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TheNuthatch · 10/09/2025 10:58

A chat thread for those who don't like this Labour government.

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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A chat thread for those who *don't *like this Labour government. ^The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money....

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5404009-labour-isnt-working-thread-7

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twistyizzy · 10/09/2025 17:22

Upstartled · 10/09/2025 16:50

Hmm, there have been a few occasions when the same poster mines these threads to garner favour and outrage elsewhere. It's a bit, weak.

God yes no cat or other taxes please 🙏

Unfortunately I've only experienced them as the latter 😕 maybe that's just bad luck on my part but it has certainly hardened my attitude back towards them.

I don't really want to waste my breath on that any more, hardly any breath left after discussing the shitshow that's Labour and its doing my asthma no good!

twistyizzy · 10/09/2025 17:24

How can he stand there and support Mandy?? Where is his moral compass? If Mandy was Tory can you imagine the outrage from Labour especially Jess Phillips etc?

TheNuthatch · 10/09/2025 17:25

No taxes on this thread.

We are anti tax on this side of the debate 😁.

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twistyizzy · 10/09/2025 17:25

TheNuthatch · 10/09/2025 17:25

No taxes on this thread.

We are anti tax on this side of the debate 😁.

🤣🤣🤣

EasternStandard · 10/09/2025 17:27

twistyizzy · 10/09/2025 17:22

God yes no cat or other taxes please 🙏

Unfortunately I've only experienced them as the latter 😕 maybe that's just bad luck on my part but it has certainly hardened my attitude back towards them.

I don't really want to waste my breath on that any more, hardly any breath left after discussing the shitshow that's Labour and its doing my asthma no good!

@twistyizzyhang out here and we’ll have a laugh instead. I’m sorry there’s the usual elsewhere. Think of Starmer’s funny outfit period, military phase.

DenizenOfAisleOfShame · 10/09/2025 17:28

TheNuthatch · 10/09/2025 17:25

No taxes on this thread.

We are anti tax on this side of the debate 😁.

True.

TheNuthatch · 10/09/2025 17:30

twistyizzy · 10/09/2025 17:24

How can he stand there and support Mandy?? Where is his moral compass? If Mandy was Tory can you imagine the outrage from Labour especially Jess Phillips etc?

I feel the same, and I would still call it out if Mandy was tory/reform/LD etc.
As I said in my pp, Labour MPs did not look impressed with Starmer's stance today.

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TheNuthatch · 10/09/2025 17:31

EasternStandard · 10/09/2025 17:27

@twistyizzyhang out here and we’ll have a laugh instead. I’m sorry there’s the usual elsewhere. Think of Starmer’s funny outfit period, military phase.

I miss his dressing up phase. So funny.

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twistyizzy · 10/09/2025 17:32

TheNuthatch · 10/09/2025 17:30

I feel the same, and I would still call it out if Mandy was tory/reform/LD etc.
As I said in my pp, Labour MPs did not look impressed with Starmer's stance today.

It's despicable. I'm sure it's cos of Rayner last week and he is worried it makes him look weak when in actual fact it looks weaker standing up and supporting Mandy.
They said they did due diligence, well their due dil sucks!!!

twistyizzy · 10/09/2025 17:32

TheNuthatch · 10/09/2025 17:31

I miss his dressing up phase. So funny.

🤣

CaroleLandis · 10/09/2025 17:37

Starmer — the self-proclaimed “man of integrity” whose reputation is about as solid as a ridgid Soviet lamppost — presides over his cabinet of Fabian halfwits like some pompous school prefect convinced he’s Churchill.

Every disastrous policy they dream up is another nail in Britain’s coffin. Businesses are collapsing and pubs closing faster than Starmer changes his mind, while his loyal bean-counter Rachel Reeves thinks taxing the nation into poverty is some kind of economic masterstroke.

Meanwhile, Captain Integrity hurls millions at the French to “stop the boats,” yet it took GB news star Patrick Christy a couple of hours to unpick the whole scam. The government’s response? Absolutely nothing.

This isn’t leadership, it’s managed decline — Fabianism at its most parasitic. They rinse us dry, feed us lies, and expect applause for the privilege.

The only way to halt this sabotage is to cut off their supply — starve the machine by lawful means, withhold what fuels it, and refuse to bankroll the ideology that’s systematically dismantling our nation piece by piece.

TheNuthatch · 10/09/2025 17:41

twistyizzy · 10/09/2025 17:32

It's despicable. I'm sure it's cos of Rayner last week and he is worried it makes him look weak when in actual fact it looks weaker standing up and supporting Mandy.
They said they did due diligence, well their due dil sucks!!!

Starmer didn't even deny knowing about the relationship between Epstein and 'Petie'.
Perhaps there are nefarious reasons why Mandelson was given the job? Trump is also implicated.
The former ambassador, Karen Pierce, was really popular stateside with Trump's team, so it was strange to replace her. I know I'm reaching, just a thought. Karen Pierce has been invited to the state dinner.

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NoWordForFluffy · 10/09/2025 17:51

EasternStandard · 10/09/2025 16:43

Idk what’s happening but if there’s discussion on another thread about your posts I’d just report. Eta it’s horrible and unnecessary

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I'd go so far to say it's pathetic, childish and plain bitchyness. Those posters need to grow the fuck up. 👋 at those pathetic individuals monitoring this thread.

Barbadossunset · 10/09/2025 17:58

twistyizzy · Today 17:24
How can he stand there and support Mandy?

I wonder what’s going to happen to Mandy. Trump is in no position to criticise him about Epstein, and for all I know he may be an excellent ambassador and Trump likes him.
However it’s up to British government to decide Mandy’s fate, but if Trump asked them to let Mandy remain in his post, would he have any influence with Starmer?

DenizenOfAisleOfShame · 10/09/2025 17:59

The left on MN didn’t feel the need to patrol other threads and make bitchy comments about other posters before Labour took office.

It’s really just the flailing around and bitterness of supporters of a desperately bad government that they cheered into power.

EasternStandard · 10/09/2025 18:16

DenizenOfAisleOfShame · 10/09/2025 17:59

The left on MN didn’t feel the need to patrol other threads and make bitchy comments about other posters before Labour took office.

It’s really just the flailing around and bitterness of supporters of a desperately bad government that they cheered into power.

The site pre GE was completely bonkers. Basically anyone not Labour was a ‘bot’ and hounded. It was full on. Most of what was said appears to be happening now due to Labour’s policies.

GabrielsOboe · 10/09/2025 18:19

The ‘Starmtroopers’ as they’re known, are almost childlike in their slavish adherence to the party line, even if the face of adverse data and news flow.

Evidently, some of them have zero experience of the real world, having never left the safety of their parochial existence, resorting to posting photos of felines etc., when they’ve lost a debate. That does not prevent them posting on subjects of which they have absolutely no knowledge.

They deserve our pity - it’s all rather tragic.

NoWordForFluffy · 10/09/2025 18:20

DenizenOfAisleOfShame · 10/09/2025 17:59

The left on MN didn’t feel the need to patrol other threads and make bitchy comments about other posters before Labour took office.

It’s really just the flailing around and bitterness of supporters of a desperately bad government that they cheered into power.

I just don't see why they can't be pragmatic.

Unfortunately, sometimes our political party of choice makes a right royal fuck up of things. These don't have to be supported just because you're a party member / voted for them. It's fine to accept that, on some occasions, they're a bit shit and could do with improvement.

You look idiotic clapping like a seal at everything rather than just shrugging, accepting it's a bit shit, and getting on with working out what needs to be done better.

TheNuthatch · 10/09/2025 18:27

The point is that talking about other posters like that without quoting them to give them the option to defend themselves is out of order. Its not the first time this has happened, it's wrong.
I'd be annoyed too.

I've had some lovely PMs from posters on the other thread btw, I don't tar them all with the same brush.

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TheNuthatch · 10/09/2025 18:34

Barbadossunset · 10/09/2025 17:58

twistyizzy · Today 17:24
How can he stand there and support Mandy?

I wonder what’s going to happen to Mandy. Trump is in no position to criticise him about Epstein, and for all I know he may be an excellent ambassador and Trump likes him.
However it’s up to British government to decide Mandy’s fate, but if Trump asked them to let Mandy remain in his post, would he have any influence with Starmer?

I don't know, but I suspect the answer is yes.

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TheNuthatch · 10/09/2025 18:39

Alison McGovern has pulled out of the DL race

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NoWordForFluffy · 10/09/2025 18:42

TheNuthatch · 10/09/2025 18:39

Alison McGovern has pulled out of the DL race

Not enough support, I'd think.

I wonder which candidate my MP will support next?! 🤣

DenizenOfAisleOfShame · 10/09/2025 18:45

TheNuthatch · 10/09/2025 18:39

Alison McGovern has pulled out of the DL race

Interesting. Either a deal with Starmer to avoid competition with Phillipson or a realisation that she stood no chance against the left’s big names.

twistyizzy · 10/09/2025 18:50

BP is definitely being lined up for this. Probably arranged last week. Starmer needs 1 supporter in cabinet

twistyizzy · 10/09/2025 18:51

NoWordForFluffy · 10/09/2025 18:20

I just don't see why they can't be pragmatic.

Unfortunately, sometimes our political party of choice makes a right royal fuck up of things. These don't have to be supported just because you're a party member / voted for them. It's fine to accept that, on some occasions, they're a bit shit and could do with improvement.

You look idiotic clapping like a seal at everything rather than just shrugging, accepting it's a bit shit, and getting on with working out what needs to be done better.

Well said