More women were killed by their sons than by strangers

[IwantToRetire]

This is just one of the sad statistics from the latest Femicide Report published yesterday.

The Femicide Census has identified 122 women who were killed by men in the UK in 2022. 62 women were killed by a current or former partner. More women were killed by their son than by a stranger. The vast majority of women were killed in their own home. Evidence of gratuitous violence was found in just over two-thirds of killings.

https://www.femicidecensus.org/femicide-census-publishes-its-annual-report/

Which part of it was meaningless?

The Femicide Census has identified
● 122 women who were killed by men in the UK in 2022.
• 62 women were killed by a current or former partner.
• More women were killed by their son than by a stranger.
• The vast majority of women were killed in their own home.
• Evidence of gratuitous violence was found in just over two-thirds of killings.

Your point.

Here's another statistic, in "straight" marriages, it's the woman who instigates divorce proceedings in over 80% of cases.

Divorce rates between married women are over 30% higher than divorce rates between "straight" couples.

So, when men are taken out of the loop, women still end relationships at a much higher rate than men do.

But without context, those stats are meaningless and you don't know what point I am making.

Do I support women or men?

Am I making critical point?

Taking a neutral stance?

You have posted stats in your OP, but haven't said what your message is.

You clearly made your point.

You came across a thread about women being murdered and could not resist the urge to snipe.

Hope you now feel all warm and cuddly.👍

I'm entirely unsurprised that women are more likely killed by their sons than by a stranger.

Women who are most highly exposed to murderous men are most likely to be killed by them.

Sadly true.
And if the man is in her home she wants to believe that he could never go that far.

Well that's on the government not funding/providing enough facilities,bed places and staff to work in them. I work in mental health. Staff are stressed with so much pressure placed on them to get people discharged so that they can admit new patients.

💐

How weird to correlate divorce and murder.

Murdered women are not 'meaningless statistics'

Most violence happens between people who know each other well.
Most sexual crimes happen within households, especially of children.
Was ever thus.

Remember those facts next time you hear "must stop the male immigrant predator" messages on MN. The people shouting loudest about immigrant-criminal-threats don't ever shout about within household crime.

I agree. That’s a bloody awful thing to say.

I agree. That’s a bloody awful thing to say.

If you have mental health needs it doesnt mean you are an abuser.
If you are an abuser it doesnt mean you have mental health needs.

I think mental health plays a significant role in this.

When everyone else has dropped someone, the mother is left as the sole carer and can be exposed to terrible risk as a result.

Woman's Hour had a bit of coverage on this during the week. Here is a link. Woman's Hour Femicide Census.
An interesting point that they covered was the pattern of sons who commit femicide after returning to family home when their own relationships have broken down. The housing crisis and single men being low priority for housing contribute to the issue.

These statistics bear out what I have observed anecdotally from my work which involves hearing a lot of court cases. I have said to my daughter before now, 'it's always the ex-boyfriend'. There are a terrifying number of men who see a woman as their possession and become violent at the slightest suggestion of that woman having any relationship with any other man, even when their relationship has already ended.

I was very worried about this after my daughter broke up with a boyfriend who had shown controlling tendancies but happily he left her alone and later left the country.

Please stop meaningless posts.

The OP's post was extremely clear, the murder of women is not 'meaningless' and your point that women tend to make the decision to separate, when compared to the fact that it's overwhelmingly men who murder women, is bizarre.

Or do you think that anyone who separates from their husband deserves to be killed?

I couldn't agree more.

And the recent tragedy (Stockport), for instance, people query the parents' role. They've probably been begging for help for many many years.

You have posted stats in your OP, but haven't said what your message is.

I dont start threads because I have a message!

What a really strange thing to say.

The point of mumsnet is to allow users to interact with each other.

It could be to ask a direct question.

It could be to share information.

It could be to have a bit of a moan.

It could be to ask for advice.

If you have no worries about male violence against women, particulary to family members or partners, fine.

But as the Government had recognised that male violence against women is national emergency.

I am surprised that many PP are talking about mental health issues.

I think most people recognise that the largest influence of male violence against women is often influenced by witnessing male violence against women why growing up.

And with this persisting attitudes that women should lead their live in accordance with how the men in their lives think it should be lived.

As well as in more recent years through the media, film, television and now the internet, that the growth in explicit depictions of violence againg women and girls is the biggest corrupter.

As in for example the number of young men who think that strangling a women during sex is "normal" and that women like it.

As is so often quoted "men are frightened that women will laugh at them, women are frightened that men will kill them".

Women's Aid: UK emergency alerts: How to stay safe on 7th September 2025

A nationwide test of the UK’s emergency alert service will take place at 3pm on Sunday 7 September 2025. The alerts will warn you if there’s a danger to life nearby, such as flooding or fires.

However, we are concerned about the potential safety risks to survivors who may be keeping their phones hidden from an abuser, as the alert is a loud, siren-like sound with a screen message and vibration.

Survivors can opt out from receiving emergency alerts to avoid their device from being detected.

Full info https://www.womensaid.org.uk/uk-emergency-alerts/

There is no meaningful mental health for women whose sons are violent. Camhs is utterly useless. We abandoning those women and those boys.