Thread 31 Starmer - September Rain

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Pull up a chair for some friendly chit chat about politics and beyond

Taxes optional but greatly appreciated.

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@BIWI signed the letter thank you.

Sydenham or Honor Oak? They are good looking places and still there. All part of the self build revolution

I've signed the letter and shared the link.

Im quite happy with the measures on landlords, I have bad memories of renting when I was young, landlords refusing go do repairs and then withholding the security deposit for stupid reasons. We ended up just not paying the last rent in full because of the rubbish excuses they used not to repay. Even with deposit schemes this doesn't seem to have improved.

Ds1 is buying his first home at the moment- it's being sold by a landlord at a reasonable price, but would clearly need a lot of work to get it to the proper standards for rental. Obviously thats not an issue for ds1.

@Sambal2 I'm sorry you met a bunch of halfwit arseholes with no sense of history. Hopefully the police will deal with the racist shits.

The primary school my yonger dsis attended in the early 90s had a fire meaning they were taught in mobile classrooms. When ds1 started there in the 2000s they were still using them.

The year ds1 left, they finally had the school extended and refurbed, but kept the best one of the mobile classrooms for the preschoolers. They still use it.

Signed and shared with my Labour women's group. We're having a fabulous night out as a fundraiser in October.

Sky News
Epping Council loses permission to appeal ruling over asylum seekers at Bell Hotel

No one is going to live in a prefab. People just need rent controlled flats that are livable in and well maintained.

I’d like to think that’s the end of it but I fear not.

Is it raining in Epping at the moment? I do hope so.

84% of the detached homes in Sweden are prefabs!
Ideally there would be more standard construction houses
and flats but until then ...................
why not do something else?

I've emailed Angela Rayner with my thoughts on prefabs.
There may be good reasons why it would not fly as an option but lots of countries have them.
I'll let you know.

One problem is that the houses won't house the same number of people as rented property is more densely populated than owner occupied property.

Was Honor Oak bombastix we lived in one of the LA houses opposite which were originally built by a developer who went bust & the council took over/bought (not certain on all the details was late seventies/early eighties) they were amazing houses three double bedrooms with massive built in wardrobes/kitchen/diner/utility room/downstairs w.c the front room opened out onto a small garden with a gate for access to a communal grassed play area was the first home I’d ever had central heating I thought all our Christmas had come at once., shameful that so many people have been denied the right to a comfortable secure home.

Not a single Reform UK MP attended today's Commons statement on child rape gangs.

https://bsky.app/profile/adamjschwarz.bsky.social/post/3lxuaxuaxgs2c

The comments are brilliant!

Wow, really? I’m astonished.

Meanwhile in the Mail 😡

Waxy-Lemon has been trying his hand at supporting the flag painters...

He must have used a step ladder to get up that high.

🤬

The real issue is that those new build ‘townhouses’ cost £300,000.

Maybe I’m being a bit stupid but I can’t see why that’s an issue.

If it is costing 300k plus to build a property, then thats what it will also cost to build social housing.

Private developers will be building SH, who has the money to pay them for these?
A developer near me, has 30 SH 's he cannot sell, site moth balled, HA's are focusing on upgrading existing properties, ready for the new renters rights standards....

We cannot borrow, we cannot tax significantly... so where is the money to pay for SH ?

Wait, what? You mean there isn't a simple explanation and it isn't all the government's fault? Surely not?

@ chrisgiles.ft.com on the UK's public finances https://www.ft.com/content/bd3d5155-0f7e-48f5-bfb5-8c7bfbba1204

The issue we have with the new build is that they are all leasehold.
Ds2 can get a mortgage of £95,000. He is a single person on slightly above minimum wage.

So affordability for a mortgage deemed too low to buy 100% of a property in our area with a monthly repayment of £800 a month for a cheap in our area £200,000 house value.
It will let him have a £ of a new build though with a mortgage of £480, a rent portion of £400 and a leasehold payment of £50.

That makes no sense and only seems designed to lock people into a permanent short term leasehold arrangement. Short leases of under 100 years mean they are harder to resell.