Hate how racist everything has become, and how quickly it’s happened.

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I was just looking at facebook, and a ‘Sad face’ newsmaker article came up. Practically all the comments mentioned boats, asylum seekers etc etc. Its really getting me down.

Travelled to the south west last weekend. On the way down no flags on bridges. On the way back, in some areas, every bridge.

Its scary how quickly it’s all happening.

also, they’d already completed the core medical school training in another country, therefore the postgrad training they’re now receiving is funded and they receive a salary for.

We retain loads of foreign doctors, our NHS depends on them. And people like you object to that.

Loads of British born doctors choose to move overseas.

How would you close the university funding gap from the loss of foreign students?

Only a % of spaces are for international students. And as has been explained they are a way that the colleges make money.

Who is paying their salaries?

Ah, I see a bunch of racists denying English any identify or ethnicity. No wonder you see no issue in the ethnic and cultural destruction of them. Up until barely fifty years ago nearly every English person was a 22nd cousin or less of every other English person. The diversity depicted in ‘historical’ BBC dramas is just fiction.

As for the only nationality in the UK being British - try telling that to the Welsh or Scottish!

You are complaining about something you contributed to?

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Thousands of british resident F2 doctors were made unemployed this August as the direct result of allowing overseas doctors to apply for training posts with equal priority.

Is it possible they are under these schemes?

Salaried Medical Training for International Students

1. Foundation and Specialty Medical Training (Junior Doctors)
2. Medical graduates working in the NHS—such as Foundation Year 1 (FY1) or Foundation Year 2 (FY2) doctors, or specialty trainees—are paid positions, typically ranging from £28,000 to £47,000 per yeardepending on level and specialty standyou.comAcademically.
3. International Medical Graduates (IMGs) may apply for these roles if they hold the appropriate visa, have GMC registration, and meet licensing requirements such as PLAB or MRCP global.hee.nhs.ukplacement.kgmu.orgImgConnectstandyou.com.
4. Importantly, these roles are considered employment, not public funding. That means salary is permissible income, and does not count as 'public funds'. However, eligibility depends on having the right to work under your visa
5. International Postgraduate Medical Training Scheme (IPGMTS)
6. This is a structured, salaried specialty training program available only through government-to-government agreements. Doctors are sponsored by their home country and train in the UK under NHS standards before returning home as consultants

Examples?

A quick google seems to suggest this is a bit inaccurate and not an issue caused by internationals.

https://www.pulsetoday.co.uk/news/pulse-careers/half-of-doctors-finishing-foundation-training-will-have-no-job-next-month-bma-warns

Why are you, as a foreigner dictating to English people who can and cannot be English?

That’s like me dictating to Russians or Nigerians who can and cannot be Russian or Nigerian.

There isn’t anything stopping anyone in the UK studying medicine. How will universities make up the short fall in funding?

This is a lie.

Who is denying English identity exactly?

I identify as English. I just don't buy into the notion that you have to be white to share that identity. And as nobody has yet given me a definition of what "Englishness" is or who would qualify, I'm not sure that any of you really know...other than to say who you want to exclude.

As for ethnic and cultural destruction... what's your evidence for this. You don't get to just throw out that sort of ridiculous hyperbole without justifying your claims. So come on, set out exactly what you think is being destroyed.

Where are you reading that was due to foreigners and what does any of that have to do with the veracity of my comments on NHS dependency on foreign doctors and university dependency on foreign students?

Who has denied that “white English” ethnicity exists? Saying somebody can be black and English is not saying you cannot be white English.

What “ethnic and cultural” destruction are you talking about?

It sure is trending, I'm noticing it nearly everywhere where I go now

I’ve had a bit of a Google and I can’t find anything that’s showing me the difference. They all talk about language and culture but it’s interchangeable unless you’re referring to Scottish Welsh.

I did find an article though that mentioned the outrage about Rishi Sunak being described as English

...easy , just make sure borh sides are aptly informed and leave out expressions like " send them all" and " back" ...who is "all" and where is " back" ??

I wouldn’t expect someone with a low IQ to possibly ponder that there is more than one type of person - you can be concerned about the number of boards and asylum seekers and also be a remained and left wing. Just so ya know.
I voted Lib Dem’s (tactical vote) and remain. I’ve never voted Tory. I’m sure that will give a narrow minded person like you a headache but there you have it.

I didn’t say children were dying in poverty?

Actually child poverty numbers are rising.

Im not blaming child poverty on asylum seekers? Again with the low IQ and false sense of righteousness. I’m saying we can’t afford to keep bringing in and paying for asylum seekers (who have bypassed many other counties to get here, why is that?) when we should be tackling domestic-borne problems

The issue is the UK is now one of the most densely populated countries in Europe. The arrival of ten million people since 2000 had stretched the infrastructure to near collapse. I can’t see how fhis could ever be considered ‘positive’ for anyone - including the arrivals. We now face stark choices of building over what is left of the countryside and accepting our standards of living will remain much lower than they should be - or we can pause immigration for a few years, look after the nation that actually live here and stop being such doormats.

Sorry, but I don’t think it’s up to international students to make up shortfalls in uni funding. I don’t know where you got that from, but I’d be keen to see your sources.

And there is, I’m sure, many barriers stopping people in the UK studying medicine. Besides, I’m talking about medical personnel retention, and how the UK training is attracting foreign students. I think that there needs to be a stop there and we should be funding places for UK students.

or perhaps, there should be something written into contracts that if you are trained here, you are obligated to stay and work for x amount of time. Maybe that’s a better idea to plug the workforce issues.

Yes I agree with something like

Thought as much.

You can just look at international fees for any university, UCL for example averages £33k per year for fees. If we lose international students though, how much would you like taxation to rise to cover the shortfall? Or would you want home students to pay significantly higher fees?