Hate how racist everything has become, and how quickly it’s happened.

[Silverbirchleaf]

I was just looking at facebook, and a ‘Sad face’ newsmaker article came up. Practically all the comments mentioned boats, asylum seekers etc etc. Its really getting me down.

Travelled to the south west last weekend. On the way down no flags on bridges. On the way back, in some areas, every bridge.

Its scary how quickly it’s all happening.

Of course, maybe the Tibetans deserve it for doing a colonialism (some Chinese literally believe that Tibetans aided the Manchus during the Qing dynasty and thus deserve it.
Of course this isn’t true)

Well said.

I am. What makes you think otherwise?

I don’t think it’s a simple as a colour of skin argument- what really frightens people is fundamental Islam. It concerns me that we are allowing people (and I really mean men) into the country who aren’t coming here because they admire the country and want to integrate & and embrace our norms. Some immigrants (again I’m referring to men) appear to hate us, especially if we are women, and scorn our values and freedoms. I detest misogyny and personally do not want these men here - especially when they are young men who claim to have left a dangerous country but been quite happy to leave their more vulnerable (female) relatives behind. I do not like seeing women in veils accompanied by tshirt wearing men. I respect their right to wear the veil if they choose to do so but I do not believe it has any place in a modern society that respects women. I do not dislike or fear these women, I feel saddened to see their oppression openly on our streets. If we could swap all the male immigrants for their female relatives we’d have a very different situation. There was little hostility to the Ukrainian immigrants imo not so much do to skin colour but because they were women bc and children seeking safety while the men stayed to fight for their country. If all the men had turned up on their own, abandoning their families, I don’t think they would have had a very positive reception either!

I dont know anything about this. What has happened in Tibet?

I don’t know enough about Tibet to make a comment one way or the other.

What I do know is that I am a human being living on one small planet alongside 7 billion others, and by a vanishingly low probability I was born in a time and place where I have the good fortune to benefit from bountiful food, water, shelter, free education and health care, liberty, democracy and human rights. Would I be happy to lose this? No. But am I self entitled enough to believe that I am more deserving any of these things than anyone else on planet earth? No.

I didn’t “earn” them and they are not my God-given (if I believed in God) right.

National borders and cultural norms are all socially constructed. If we were suddenly invaded and attacked by extra terrestrials, you would suddenly find allies in those foreign humans you fear and dislike so much.

Does it hurt more when your colonial masters do it to you, or when your own elite do it to you?

One is more harsh, yes. But the betrayal is sharper when it’s your own people, I’d say.

And the result is your own erasure from your homeland and little you can do to reverse it.

*boats

Oh right, just thought this was a thread about racism in the UK, you seem to be posting from a position of insight that you can't have if you don't live here.

The two situations are not remotely comparable. Stop trying to draw parallels that don't exist.

I was born in a time and place where I have the good fortune to benefit from bountiful food, water, shelter, free education and health care, liberty, democracy and human rights. Would I be happy to lose this? No. But am I self entitled enough to believe that I am more deserving any of these things than anyone else on planet earth? No.

So do you operate borders within your own life? Do your lock your front door because to think you are more deserving of the food, shelter and belongings within your home than random people in the street?

Chinese government will flood ‘restive’ regions with Han Chinese migrants. I know about the situation more in Tibet, but they do it in Xinjiang too.

They are being demographically erased in their capital cities. Slower in the countryside, thankfully.

It is a legitimate view point to say that British people should be prioritised over ex pats. So yes, someone living here all their lives should get priority for public housing rather than someone who isn’t. It’s not about being white. Same with jobs-British trained doctors who are struggling to get jobs should be prioritised over people from overseas. Now people might not agree with that view but I can’t see how it could be called racist. There is nothing wrong with a country prioritising its own people for public services and jobs.

I don’t live in America and haven’t for years.

Be specific about the difference. To me it’s a matter of degree

I can’t believe it’s necessary to point this out, but the issue with foreign criminals is that you can do things to them that you can’t do to the British population – you can vet them or their countries before they come here, you can deport them, you can not have mass immigration in the first place.

Quite apart from how the percentages stack up, the fury around foreign criminals is that measures are available and they have not been taken. How do you expect people to feel about immigration when this is part of the immigration we get?

So you live in Britain? You emigrated to Britain from the U.S?

I did report each occurrence as did the site guys for things that happened to them on site, but ultimately I'm reporting a passerby who rarely I saw the face of enough to describe what was happening. I also changed the times I went to site to 10ish when less people were moving around the site. If you are London based I will happily send you the details privately of the exact area this happened etc, you can have a walk around yourself and experience it In sure nothing has changed in the past two years. it happened, I can honestly say I've never experienced anything like it. I was not welcome there, I can only assume this was due to race and the fact the guys on site experienced different abuse but still abuse led me to believe it is due to race.

That's like asking me to be specific about the difference between a banana and a dog. There is no comparison, and it is blindingly obvious as to why.

I am not going to waste my time writing out a history of Tibet which you can easily find on the Internet, and which I presume you already know in any case if you have spent time in Tibet as you claim. So you already know why the two situations are not remotely comparable and you're being completely disingenuous in trying to pretend that you don't.

No-you didn’t earn them but you were lucky enough to be born in a country where the rule of law exists, the government provides education and healthcare and generally people are live and let live. That doesn’t mean that allowing unlimited immigration from other countries whose citizens don’t benefit from those things is the right thing to do. And different values have been imported. Grooming white girls because they are easy, honour killings, women stuck at home and not allowed to learn English. Middle class people tend to be protected from that-we mix with people from different races and ethnicities and everyone gets along swimmingly because those people tend to be educated and cultured. But go into some areas in England especially and see if those luxury liberal values still hold up. And your post makes no sense-should I just go and help myself to my neighbour’s belongings because they have things I want?

I’m a married-in. So I am concerned about both and my posting record probably shows that big time tbh

Well, I do own my house. I earned the money to pay for it and my name is on the deeds and it’s private property. But I don’t own my town, my county or Great Britain.

And if a refugee fleeing from persecution and in immediate danger needed somewhere to stay, with no “4-star hotels rolling out the red carpet” for them, then I would try to offer them a place to stay in my house. Just like many people did with Ukrainian refugees a couple of years back.

Forced demographic change is a tragedy, whether forced at gunpoint or by incredibly naive government policy.

Thats my larger point.

So you enjoyed that freedom of movement and located to a different country but your posting history seems to suggest you don't think others should have that available to them, but hypocritical isn't it?

Bit not "but".