Hate how racist everything has become, and how quickly it’s happened.

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I was just looking at facebook, and a ‘Sad face’ newsmaker article came up. Practically all the comments mentioned boats, asylum seekers etc etc. Its really getting me down.

Travelled to the south west last weekend. On the way down no flags on bridges. On the way back, in some areas, every bridge.

Its scary how quickly it’s all happening.

It’s bloody horrific. And these racists are being bussed all over. I don’t believe there is actually that many of them, there was a flag waving gammon faced rally in Perth the other day and a reporter asked one of them where he lives and he said on camera. Essex.
not that I think Essex is more racist than Perth, I just believe it’s the same angry mob heading to all the rallies.

Nigel fucking Farage and the media especially the BBC platforming him non stop

Taking our houses? I thought the protests were about hotels.

And how exactly do you “spot the British person”?
Oh, let me guess …..

It is a good thing you don't care how racist you sound.

Is your first name Lucy?

How can one possibly ‘spot the British person’?

Yeah, where is this idea that ‘they’ don’t want us flying our flag coming from? Has anyone actually asked ‘them’ ? It’s propoganda to get people frothing! I remember nonsense over the years that Christmas was being ‘cancelled’ because non Christians found it insulting. Christmas continues to be celebrated year after year. Been hearing this since the 90s.

Everyone is labelling people who are getting concerned their neighbourhoods are changing due to illegal immigration as racist.

WTF. It's not racism to be worried about how the armies of men are affecting how safe you feel in your own town.

You are making it racist not them.

As a worker I am sick of being at the bottom of the barrel being taxed to the hilt and warned of increased taxes to fund the benefits bill now growing topsy because of boat people.

We have proper immigration routes. Ask yourself why men of fighting age from countries that are anti the UK, misogynistic cultures or known for terrorism are they're coming in here in droves through unauthorised routes.

We are a tiny island, land and resources are already stressed.

All of us should be concerned.

Oh, I think we can probably hazard a guess.

So why make an already bad problem worse by bringing in men from even MORE misogynistic countries?

How well is that going to go for you (so far not well … )

taking our houses

Well they'll be taking even more when turfed out of the hotels!

Farage was given a platform nonstop for years even when he had no party or was polling less and less represented in elections than the Greens. He is a creation of the BBC

No, I can well believe that you don't believe in traditional values like compassion.

And no, when I refer to tolerance, I'm not talking about tolerating abuse or criminal behaviour, any more than about I'm advocating that we should tolerate racism and hate. But I think you already know this.

Those who are promoting hate and division represent the very worst of Britain. They talk about "our values" and "our beliefs" as if they are defending something important, when actually, they stand for nothing but petty hatred. People like that are a scourge on our society and they bring nothing but shame on this country for all of their mindless flag waving.

The language they speak often gives it away you know.

I think that the Brexit campaign and result has brought the people who used to hide their racism out into the light and emboldened them to say what the hell they like. Backed up by the likes of Farage and GB News.

We wouldn't need to import nurses if immigration wasn't so high.
It's as daft as saying people come here because they have family or know someone. That's because there are so many already here.
It's a self fulfilling prophecy.
It's said there could be 10 million undocumented people in the UK.

Oh, I'm sure she is lining them all up to do passport checks.

No, we are not a racist country and are the most welcoming and tolerant in Europe. But having the norms of other societies forced on people who do not agree with those norms makes people angry and frustrated - especially when the government and 'elites' call such unhappiness and worry racism and bigotry. We have a culture of our own, one that is welcoming to additions which are positive. But many additions are not positive. You will remember the voting scandals in Tower Hamlets, where tribal leaders delivered votes to favoured candidates - this is not in line with how our democracy works and we see it as fraud and manipulation of the vote (much as many see the backing as manipulation of the vote in the US) and we also worry that people - mainly women and girls but some young men - are having the rights they are entitled to in the UK stolen by a very patriarchal and male-orientated culture.

There is also a problem of unattached young men finding themselves in a much less restrictive culture than that they come from. The attacks on New Year's Eve in Germany some years ago show what this can mean - and this is also a worry for local people.
We also do not like the people traffickers who make money out of misery and are often the equivalent of slavers where illegal immigrants are smuggled in and pushed into slave-conditions in work and women also being prostituted. We would like all this to stop.
There is no shame in flying the English flag, either, and you will see it on churches, who have an obligation to fly it on certain feast days. We need to reclaim our flags from the right wing, I think.

Yes they are everywhere but the majority of them are from a certain religion. They cannot stand women being independent and expressing themselves. Ive walked down the streets and have had stones thrown at me and been called a whore just for wearing shorts and tshirt

Not necessarily.

I think the ongoing Palestinian protests have been part of the spark for this, not just small boats.

People are projecting. Labour have done nothing to reverse 14 years of conservative austerity. Employer NI contributions mean more job cuts, fewer new jobs. Young people can’t get neither work experience nor entry level jobs. Cost of living is beyond a crisis- it’s a disaster. People can’t afford to eat let alone little luxuries. The government thinks even more taxation of the common folk is the answer.

☝️ this is the real problem. Politicians, all of them, are using the oldest truck in the book of blaming immigration for problems they don’t know how to fix. And people are falling for the rhetoric.

I am an immigrant, though am white and have lived here most of my life. I am very left leaning and love different cultures. But I grew up in a very multi cultural area, where as girls we were harassed by young Muslim men for being easy (aka showing skin) but it was apart from that interesting with lots of Irish, indian and Jewish refugees from Poland etc.

We now live in a commuter town that our local gp surgery has nearly 20k patients and it's impossible to get an appointment. The town is full of vape shops, grow houses and Turkish barbers (some legit some not). It's not a secret that vapes are sold to young girls if they flash skin to the mainly Muslim men running these shops. They friend them on Snapchat. my teen daughter was groomed by an Albanian man who was doing it to 100s of girls via snapchat as they had "mutuals". But she's also had issues with British boys her own age who use social media to pick on girls and have been themselves groomed by the Andrew Tates of this world.

My point is it's not racist to point out that much drug and sex crime etc is run by Albanian gangs and modern slavery. It is racist to not be able to see legitimate immigrants have a valuable contribution to society and to vilify refugees fleeing from war zones.

It's not racist or anything else to point out that women's rights are being eroded.

It's a very complex situation. Personally I think they need to deport all criminals from other countries, our rights are human rights, it needs to be a requirement that immigrants learn English, and respect that we are different in how we treat women. There needs to be more focus on how women are treated generally with British boys too.

Note that more liberal countries like Sweden and Denmark are having huge issues with young immigrant men who are not accepting of their liberal attitudes (my friend is a croation refugee who lives in Sweden so has a very unique view point to this and finds the refusal to respect the culture frustrating).

It's also not racist to talk about county lines and grooming gangs. In fact it's essential that we talk about these things openly without being accused of racism because actually we gloss over these societal and cultural problems and create more resentment to those of colour who don't deserve it.

It is racist to blame everyone who isn't white for all of this anger and xenophobia (I'm actually Australian and believe me they have not got it right and racism is deep rooted).

I'm not sure how I feel about all the flags. I think that has been taken over by people who don't understand the nuances of the issue.

That is an absolutely ridiculous assertion

I was quite surprised that there was a protest in Perth. Was not at all surprised to read that groups people had travelled many miles to attend!