Hate how racist everything has become, and how quickly it’s happened.

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I was just looking at facebook, and a ‘Sad face’ newsmaker article came up. Practically all the comments mentioned boats, asylum seekers etc etc. Its really getting me down.

Travelled to the south west last weekend. On the way down no flags on bridges. On the way back, in some areas, every bridge.

Its scary how quickly it’s all happening.

It’s a carefully manipulated distraction to hide the real, very dangerous economic issues

@Nestingbirds ”We will finally have a sensible, safe and fair immigration system that serves THIS country, and not the rest of the world.”

What do you think is not sensible or unsafe about the current immigration system in the UK? Which particular parts are unsafe?

No, but we need to be honest about just how bad the situation will get before this boom passes. We will be skint paying for them. It is the adult social care bill that is crippling councils, it will get worse before it gets better. However, local Facebook groups and other social media are presenting the lack of council funds as down to those immigrants in the small boats.

they are relatively a small number of people. We’d fix a lot of problems by saying after 3 months of waiting for an asylum decision they could work and choose where they live (but pay their own rent if not in the hotels provided). But that would take away the asylum seekers as a political tool to distract from the real problems.

Well, the safety and rights of women in this country generally are hardly being protected, are they? The actual definition of a woman is being eroded away, and what could be the agenda behind that?

Are you sure that's what it's purpose is, my understanding is if is to show a visual unity on wanting immigration issues to be discussed by our Government. People have felt / do feel muted and unable to talk about immigration particularly from those arriving in boats. If you read through this thread there are multiple attacks on anyone representing concerns, mostly personal attacks from posters. Not so much going in the other direction.

That is the outcome desired as I understand it, which going by the number of threads on here and media coverage it is working and is bringing about discussion.

Yeah when they say the majority of British men commit crime, they forget that white British men still make up the majority of adult males. In fact it would be a serious, serious issue if they did NOT make up the largest share of criminals.

But in fact, we do find that certain demographic groups commit a larger share of sexual assaults, per capita. That is the actual number to consider. Don’t let the lefties gaslight you on this issue.

It takes too long, it is allowing too many to stay that have nothing to contribute to the country, and it is very very easy to circumnavigate and lie - or claim you are a child when clearly you are an adult male.

I am ethnically Indian. Where we are now is scary for anyone who is not white. I had an Aunty who was spat at last week and the level of verbal abuse experienced by the whole family is increasing. Most of my family work in the NHS as Doctors and Nurses and have done now for three generations. It is somewhat ironic that I see lots of comments about immigration causing problems with NHS appointments when our NHS is dependent of large amount foreign workers and beyond this is hugely ethnically diverse.

There seems to be a deliberate effort to “other” anyone who is not English. We have the same basic issues and challenges as anyone who is white and have lived harmoniously and productively in mixed communities for years. I often read online comments around there being no go areas for white people in the UK- Tower Hamlets is often used. Not true, but I do hear it stated. It would be a brave person of colour at the moment that would be opting to do some shopping in Epping I think.

The same people allowing unvetted migrants to come in without pushback are the very same that allow the trans agenda.

The English and British flags are not racist.

Opposing mass immigration is not racist.

Opposing extremist Islamism is not racist.

Opposing the niqab is not racist.

Opposing asylum hotels is not racist

Opposing illegal immigration is not racist

Voting for a political party who are right of centre is not racist (and if it was all labour supporters would be racist)

Also, if you wish to reduce racism, OP, then ignoring the concerns of people who you (often) wrongly perceive as racist is not the way to do it.

I say this as someone who has not voted Tory, let alone UKIP/Reform once in 30+ years of voting.

Can you inform me which visa you are talking about? All immigrants have a visa, there are a few different ones. Which type is taking too long to process before being approved which then enables the person to enter the UK.

Thank god other people can see it. I’m genuinely scared of how blinded so many people are, by the concerted efforts of the main stream media, whipping them up into a frenzy. It’s like they lost any ability to use their brains.
It’s all “sTop ThE bOaTs” (which incidentally, is extremely easy to do, with the will to do it), instead of asking themselves, why the government hasn’t done so, IF “the boats” were so detrimental to the country.
Many of us, on this site, will be single parents, some of us old enough to remember when every headline was slating single mothers, as the biggest scourge the country had ever faced. We’ve seen the LGBTQ+ community pilloried. We’ve seen pensioners castigated for the triple lock, and claiming the heating allowance that they “didn’t need”. We’ve seen the disabled benefits slashed. We’ve seen every minority group targeted as scale goats …. And the ONE (and only) thing they have in common, is that they vulnerable and therefore easier to target as scale goats. IF the indigenous (I use the term VERY loosely) had a good standard of living, nobody would object to poor people being given the bare minimum. And that’s the problem. The standard of living for many, isn’t good, and that’s not a mistake, it’s deliberate. And we fight over the dregs, like rats in a trap, instead of wondering why we are there, and who is keeping us there. There’s a story about red ants and black ants, living happily alongside each in a jar, until the jar is shaken, and the ants turn on each other. That’s what’s happening right now. The jar is being shaken. Not by the ants, but by the people with, and seeking more, power.

Do you mean 1 million people who move her on UK work permit visas to do jobs @Dorisbonson ? And that these people are depriving Brits of that job?
Often as a business, when applying for a visa to work here you have to advertise and show that no one here wants or can do the job. If it’s a skilled job, that person is often benefitting that company, maybe even increasing its profits.
Or do you believe 1m people still coming in to our country via border entry and simply staying - even though we have tighter border entry since Brexit?
We have a lot of aging people in this country and a shrinking work force - it’s not a bad thing to have people willing to work from other countries as part of our tax paying workforce if they have come in on a working visa .
I am interested to know @Dorisbonson the make up of these 1m people?

I hate it too . Blame Farage and the likes of the fake Tommy Robinson.

Why on earth do you think a flag is racist?

The wealthy owners of the media producing some of the news reports you’re referring to - you know, those who own/fund the likes of the Daily Mail and GB News. The millionaire leaders of Reform and their wealthy donors, hangers-on, etc. and their inflammatory, performative, irresponsible approach to politics.

I just want to say “I’m sorry”. I hope you know that there are very many people who support you, and are glad that you and your family are here. Our voices are hard to hear at times, drowned out by the clamour published by the press, but we ARE here.

You can google if you are interested, or use chat gpt I am not here to educate you.

If you think allowing the equivalent of the entire town of Leeds to arrive here year after year is good planning then I can’t help you.

This is also a type of racism - the idea that white people are not losing out. White working class men are the most underachieving group in society; the most deprived communities are made up of this demographic. Indeed, the most deprived community in the UK is white working class - and in Farage’s constituency.

I would be using it as an opportunity to teach my child about racism. I would explain how the flag has been taken over by despicable people who have no respect for traditional British values such as compassion or tolerance etc, and I would explain how they have turned our national flag into a symbol of hate and division. And I would emphasise that it is the duty of all decent people to work together to drown out the voices of that nasty, hateful few.

i meant to quote someone in my post

I don’t need educating, I’m aware of the different kind of visas the UK has, how much they cost, the averaging processing time.

Which particular visas do you think are unsafe and take too long to process?

Leeds isn’t a town by the way.

There is no evidence that women and girls are more at risk from these people.
Asylum seekers and refugees commit crimes at similar rates to the rest of the population.

Having spent a lot of time with asylum seekers and refugees, their values like most of the world’s values are about being safe and secure, being able to feed themselves and their families. It’s a difficult system to be stuck in so not many will be feeling much “kindness” . You honestly should get to know some asylum seekers and challenge your misconceptions about them.

My experience is the opposite. In the street where I live, in two incidences of Pakistani families moving in, at least one next door neighbour moved out because they 'don't want to live next door to people like them'. Not wanting integration can stem from the white English. I can't see the thugs protesting about asylum seekers being very welcoming to a non white family legitimately moving in next door to them.

This isn’t true though.