Hate how racist everything has become, and how quickly it’s happened.

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I was just looking at facebook, and a ‘Sad face’ newsmaker article came up. Practically all the comments mentioned boats, asylum seekers etc etc. Its really getting me down.

Travelled to the south west last weekend. On the way down no flags on bridges. On the way back, in some areas, every bridge.

Its scary how quickly it’s all happening.

I live in an area where the boats land on the beach, I've seen them, I know the hotels they are housed in. Crowds of young men at night hanging around outside, following my friends who are frightened to walk their dogs. They aren't refugees from a war torn country,or women and children. If councils allow the Palestine flag, What's wrong with the George Cross.

We all know the difference between being housed in a giant disused hotel and buying a house. My next door neighbour is black. She chose and paid for her very large house next to my very large house. She didn't arrive with her belongings in a plastic bag, having got off an inflatable boat.

What do you mean by lifelong asylum seekers who will never work.?
The Windrush migrants would have faced the exact same racism, worse in fact as there weren't the equality laws in place. I'm sure they do have empathy

goback to watching Facebook videos what does your god Tommy Robinson say on you living near this beach lol are you aloud off Facebook as this is obviously your Bible and the fountain of all knowledge on immigration

I don’t see a mix of ethnicities, I see mainly white men. All these dehumanising of asylum seekers, and a lot of the rhetoric is anti Muslim, basically creates an environment where all immigrants feel unwelcome and are targeted with abuse.

I think the alternative is to reduce irregular arrivals by opening up more legal routes to asylum, by funding the countries that host the most refugees like Turkey so that people’s lives are better there. Putting more resources into the asylum system so that claims are processed quicker. There are loads of postive interventions that could be done that don’t involve demonising people or increasing the amount of racism that people are generally experiencing.

Immigrants don’t arrive on inflatable boats either.

I think they're just the first "bad" guy. The media is turning everyone against each other. The poverty stricken vs the slightly better off. The disabled vs the well.
Racism is becoming rife..and media is allowing these people the perfect opportunities to voice their opinions because it makes them feel its fact, and smart because they "knew" before everyone else.

Ultimately this country is on its knees and that's why there's so much hatred about.

The asylum seeker situation does need to change, absolutely but even if it does, there will be someone else this vitriol is toward.

It's a horrible, scary time to see the country change like it is.

You do realise that most sexual assaults are committed by indigenous British people still don’t you? Can you at least go and check how many assaults have been actually found (and that’s important, actually found, not just rumoured to have been) committed by people seeking asylum?
Taken on a ratio basis the Met Police probably have a statistically higher propensity to assault women taken over the last 5 years than asylum seekers. Why isn’t everyone down at Scotland Yard with their flags? In Epping for example where the asylum seekers were causing ‘so much trouble’ there was in fact one allegation (allegation not proven yet either way) of a sexual assault by an asylum seeker. And one allegation of assault (which occurred during a fight between the asylum seeker and a white male, also I believe, charged). Clearly any allegation of assault should be taken seriously but let’s stop believing the rhetoric that asylum seekers are coming over here to rape our women and burn our buildings down.
Funny how there wasn’t this reaction to Ukrainian refugees. Everyone falling over themselves to help. Can’t put my finger on why that might be.

I live about 5 mins from a hotel housing asylum seekers. There has been not a whisper of trouble from them. And yet some white people tried to burn down a hotel in protest at them being there. (They in fact got the wrong hotel incredibly which probably doesn’t say an awful lot for their intelligence). Who is making more trouble and causing more damage then?

Have not read the thread, OP, but quick question. These flags you are seeing, are they the ones representative of the country you live in? Why is that a problem? Perhaps counselling might help you.

Regarding the vast influx of undocumented males being imported into the UK and farmed out to small towns around the country. The consequences to the local people, particularly girls and women, has been dreadful. Certainly in my small town where recently one of these males was convicted of raping a schoolgirl walking home from school . That is one of many, many incidents which have caused mayhem. Sadly as a consequence, it has caused rising anger, frustration and bafflement among local residents and they (we) are now forced to demonstrate our distress publicly and face being called all sorts of nasty, vile names for doing so.

Is it racist to want our girls and women to be protected and feel safe from males from a culture which despises such people, particularly if they wear western dress? We have our own home grown bad males, we do not need to import others.

I do agree with you though, it is also "getting me down".

Somewhat ironically a lot of what you say @summershere99 is also not true.

The majority of asylum claims are by people from Pakistan, and they didn’t arrive on a boat.

Source: https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/immigration-system-statistics-year-ending-june-2025/how-many-people-claim-asylum-in-the-uk

They don’t think the status quo is acceptable. The question is, why do you think it’s acceptable?

@Birdwordie

I don't think flying the countries own national flag whilst we've happily had the Palestine flag flying for over a year is deemed racist.

I think some of what's happening is a few of the silent minority are doing a "press to test" on rumours of two tier justice or rumours of the authorities not being objective on some circumstances

If it's ok to walk around waving the flag of another state, or deck your house with the flag of another nation then the thinking is it must be OK to wave/display either the Union Flag or the English flag (I'm not condoning vandalism BTW).

If OTOH those displaying the Union Flag or English flag get singled out for special attention by the authorities many will be of the opinion the country is deeply in the smelly stuff.

The real question should be, why do they care about the safety of refugee males over that of local women and girls?

I just can’t understand it.

I have posted on this thread about my area needing police presence for the first time since i’ve lived here because several men for our local hotel were stalking and harrassing the girls from our pimary school and their mums. I live next to the school and it was disappointing we got to a point where I had to see police walking on my street at school pick up and drop off times for a while. Some concerns are actually valid.

I think the governments didn’t think some people would have 20 plus years of pension and other benefits like free prescriptions. I think not anticipating an ageing population was a big mistake.

Thus article is an old now https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-38558116 would be interesting to see some more research on whether baby boomers are net contributors or beneficiaries.

"You do realise that most sexual assaults are committed by indigenous British people still don’t you?"

Ah @piscofrisco that is a bonkers comment! Do you really think therefore we should import undocumented males from a culture that views sexually assaulting women, particularly those in western dress, as perfectly normal. Their lawyers even use that excuse for them when they have been accused of rape/sexual assault! Personally, I believe we have enough of our own deviant males, we don't need any more and they should be returned back to the country they came from.

Sorry don’t want to derail the thread

The problem is, as always, that 50% of people are below average intelligence. They are unable to see how and why they’re being manipulated.

Someone here has NOT learned about per capita …

Schools and other educational institutes should encourage British born young people to study towards and train to become healthcare professionals. Why do we need to rely on people from abroad to work in healthcare? Our healthcare system doesn’t have to be on its knees if people from abroad start to go home (and that is their choice).

We are soft touch Britain. Too many British born people say they can’t work because of their poor mental health and they get diagnosed and or sit around drinking alcohol or take recreational drugs. People from other countries who are often fluent in two or more languages are willing to work hard and do the work. They make their money and a better life for themselves.

White British born people need a kick up the backside and maybe this is what they’re getting. If they want better futures, they need to work for it.

I don't think people are racist to individuals. Many people who bemoan the numbers here, have friends, family members and children of other cultures.

The numbers and speed of growth that's affecting services is what is biting now and for obvious reasons, immigration is visible.
Resentment isn't exclusive to British whites which is why first and second, generation from other cultures are also complaining. Especially as they came here by legal means.

The main problem of sudden numbers isn't those in dinghies as the linked chart shows. It suits the successive governments to let us think that, as it distracts us from their own ineptness.
Summary of latest statistics - GOV.UK

Far right: everything will be better if we leave the EU
Remainers: fake news, everything will get much, much worse.
Brexit happens, everything gets worse.
Far right: it’s all ruined because of those ruddy immigrants!!!

Lol. Because that would mean this didn’t happen.

The knuckledraggers enjoying their moment in the sun.

There is only one way out of this unfolding train crash. In order to protect our values as an inclusive, tolerant nation that welcomes all nationalities - and that is for Labour to respond with drastic action now.

They should announce a complete pause of all immigration today excluding students and essential workers.

No more claims will be processed for at least 12-18 months whatever their reasons for being here. There are other safe countries to choose from. We will have time to process the back log. Deport en masse those that are here illegally. We bring in new laws to confirm that immediate deportation will follow any conviction. No ifs and no buts.

The government will focus its priorities on the communities they are supposed to serve. They will work tirelessly to improve the nation’s standard of living. The nhs will not be accessible to the entire world using it as a free alternative.

We will finally have a sensible, safe and fair immigration system that serves THIS country, and not the rest of the world.

You want to keep reform out?
You want to stop the far right in its tracks?
You want to keep our fair and tolerant nation?

This is the only solution. Trust me. That’s how we keep our values, our people safe and look after our minority communities. We respond in a way that really reflects the seriousness of the situation.