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Are there English flags out near you?

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olderandnonthewiser · 24/08/2025 13:56

Left the North East this morning and saw a few, lots on the motorway bridges and our local fb page is full of them.

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Didshejustsaythatoutloud · 24/08/2025 15:37

Nope, not 1, but I'm in Scotland 😂

Sturtium · 24/08/2025 15:37

FrazzledHippy · 24/08/2025 15:30

I love in a small town that has unfortunately had a lot of incidents involving immigrants that have been housed on the outskirts of town. These include two rapes and an attempted rape, children being approached and women followed in broad daylight. Arrests have been made for the rapes and attempted rape and like I say, these crimes were committed by a group of immigrant men housed locally.

There are red crosses all over the place now. It's honestly making me nervous to live here, the incidents and local reactions to them are terrifying. I don't want to be followed or attacked, but equally I don't want to be walking with DD and see a group of locals abusing people or even worse, if it escalated to violence.

It's a scary time

Awful, I’m so sorry for you and your town. Near where we live there has just been an incident involving four men in a park and a young girl. This hasn’t happened here before, it’s terrifying. We are now regularly seeing men sitting in groups of four on park benches. Never before seen. The flags are a show of community, a very peaceful statement.

Arran2024 · 24/08/2025 15:39

No and it it is highly unlikely. I am in lib dem country in SW London. People never fly flags here, even for the football. My

SigmundinaCafe · 24/08/2025 15:40

I spend August at the seaside in Italy—where I am currently—and it’s refreshing to see plenty of ‘Il Tricolore’ flags proudly on display, as they should be.

That’s why I’m genuinely delighted to hear about the preponderance of Union Flags and St George’s Flags going up across the UK. Symbols of national identity, when embraced in a healthy and thoughtful way, can serve as a reminder of who we are and what we stand for.

Politically, I align with broadly social democratic principles, but I’ve become increasingly concerned by the cultural and moral demoralisation of the West in recent years. When we lose faith in our own heritage, moral foundations, and collective achievements, we don’t become more enlightened—we become more vulnerable: vulnerable to ideological extremism (Islamist extremism remains MI5’s most resource-intensive threat), and to internal fragmentation. In this vacuum, pride and gratitude are often replaced by shame, guilt, and a corrosive self-loathing.

This problem is made worse by the tendency of many British institutions to engage in endless self-flagellation—constantly apologising for colonialism, slavery, and past injustices—without giving proportionate recognition to the immense progress, sacrifices, and enduring values that Western democracies have also delivered: democracy, individual rights, the rule of law, and scientific innovation among them. This imbalance is not only self-defeating—it’s historically dishonest.

Add to that the rise of identity politics, which increasingly elevates group identity (race, gender, sexuality) above individual merit and shared civic values. The result is division, resentment, and the erosion of reasoned debate in favour of emotional outrage and ideological orthodoxy.

We also have to talk honestly about immigration. Uncontrolled immigration across Europe has contributed to real cultural tensions—not because of race or religion per se, but because of a widespread failure to assert and defend core societal values, and to expect integration from newcomers. Too often, any attempt to raise these issues is met with silence, denial, or accusations of racism and xenophobia. But ignoring the problem doesn’t make it go away—it just deepens the disconnect between public concern and elite discourse.

So yes, perhaps something as simple as putting up our national flags can serve as a cultural prompt—a reminder to reaffirm our Western values: freedom, rational inquiry, individual rights, and the rule of law. It can also be a moment to re-engage with our history honestly: acknowledging its faults without erasing its achievements. And perhaps most importantly, to foster the intellectual courage needed to resist ideological conformity and reclaim the self-confidence that a free and open society requires.

SeaSoul · 24/08/2025 15:41

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Ooodelally · 24/08/2025 15:41

I’ve seen large flags attached to lampposts here (St. George) and bunting round the roundabouts (Union Jack). Haven’t noticed any graffiti as yet but there are protests outside hotels in our town and the comments on the local fb groups get uglier by the day…

Crunchymum · 24/08/2025 15:41

I posted on another thread but a group of lads did my road (zone 1, London, typical 'niace' area) a few days ago. Lots of other local roads have been done too.

It all sits very uncomfortably with me.

Feel like I'm being dragged into a fight I don't want to have. If the current flagging genuinely just represented "being proud to be British" then all good but it has a horrible, sinister, right wing undercurrent.

I don't want to live in a country where I cannot be proud of my culture and heritage and where being English is seen a negative thing but I don't want this either.

(Before anyone jumps on me, I'm 'white English' by checkbox but it's all Union Jack flags here which is why I'm using both British / English - I know they are different!!)

IllBeLookingAtTheMoon · 24/08/2025 15:42

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I bet you had a Ukraine flag Facebook profile picture

johnd2 · 24/08/2025 15:42

flyingsquirrelsagogo · 24/08/2025 14:30

Not where I am. I live in Walthamstow in NE London. It’s extremely diverse here and the local population has made it very loud and clear that we do not accept any far right xenophobic bollocks in our community. There will be the odd outlier, but usually the only time you’d see the George Cross or union flag here is during a major sporting event.
Just up the road in Chingford, it’s much less diverse, and there are England flags flying there.
We are only a few miles from Epping.

This article is interesting:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx271162ee3o

Didn't spot any in chingford this morning although I wasn't looking, but I did notice someone had sprayed the litter bins with a red cross in loughton which made me laugh.
Not only do they have a black background but they're litter bins, I suppose it's good to be proud of them?

SeaSoul · 24/08/2025 15:43

IllBeLookingAtTheMoon · 24/08/2025 15:42

I bet you had a Ukraine flag Facebook profile picture

I didn't.

tripleginandtonic · 24/08/2025 15:44

Letthesunblaze · 24/08/2025 14:02

I spent 6 months in the USA and people put the American flag EVERYWHERE. National pride is a good thing

You can have national pride though without displaying flags all the time.i like it when we do it for sports events, St George's day etc

Didshejustsaythatoutloud · 24/08/2025 15:44

Togetheragain45 · 24/08/2025 15:13

It's because the Union Jack has been hijacked by the far right and is now a symbol of racism.
The only time I think it's acceptable to fly the flag is for a major football game.

Yeah, hijacked is the right term.
The SNP zealots up here hijacked our saltire for their cause and it has saddened me.

Sarfar45 · 24/08/2025 15:44

I’m in a big city down south and there’s lots gone over the last few days.

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Silvers11 · 24/08/2025 15:48

Nope! But then I live in Scotland 😛

Friendlygingercat · 24/08/2025 15:49

I worked for a year in USA in the 90s and long before Trump. I was mainly in Nevada (taught at the uni) but also spent time in New England. Almost every house displayed the flag proudly. When I mentioned that we British are made to feel that displaying the flag of our country connotes racism to many people they were astounded. In the USA the flag represents pride in one's country, community and armed forces. It is sad when people cannot feel free to display pride in their nationality and citizenship. Now thinking of getting a small flag sticker to put in my window. However due to the layout of my house few people would se it.

user1476613140 · 24/08/2025 15:51

No but I am in Scotland🤷‍♀️

Dabberlocks · 24/08/2025 15:53

There's some, but it is probably a 50/50 mix with Union flags.

Sarah2891 · 24/08/2025 15:53

Not that I'm aware of.

SeaSoul · 24/08/2025 15:54

Friendlygingercat · 24/08/2025 15:49

I worked for a year in USA in the 90s and long before Trump. I was mainly in Nevada (taught at the uni) but also spent time in New England. Almost every house displayed the flag proudly. When I mentioned that we British are made to feel that displaying the flag of our country connotes racism to many people they were astounded. In the USA the flag represents pride in one's country, community and armed forces. It is sad when people cannot feel free to display pride in their nationality and citizenship. Now thinking of getting a small flag sticker to put in my window. However due to the layout of my house few people would se it.

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In the 90s George Crosses and Union Jacks were everywhere in the UK - Britpop, the cover of Vogue, cushions, wall art, fashion, the UEFA EURO football matches.

I don't know what you were talking about to Americans then but the link to far right/racism wasn't the same then.

SeaSoul · 24/08/2025 15:55

I also think that a large percentage of the UK population thinks the American obsession with their flag is at best bloody weird and at worst sinister.

IdaGlossop · 24/08/2025 15:57

The way to detoxify the flag of St George is for as many people as possible to display it. The two European countries I know the best, Italy and Sweden, manage to be proudly patriotic when they display their flags. In England, there is always the undercurrent of the far right.

ChocolateBiscuitsandaCuppa · 24/08/2025 15:58

In a medium town that has been deteriorating for a while, not helped by a knowingly corrupt council. Loads of flags went up over the last few days. The 'discussion' on the local FB groups has been filled with those who clearly haven't finished their education spouting the same rhetoric over and over again in response to others wanting a reasonable conversation. It is very clear that it's in response to the far right's 'raise the flag' push. Even when the moderators stepped in and put up a measured post about what patriotism actually means and suggestions of how people could demonstrate this, the response from the 'patriots' was embarrassing.
There are so many businesses, not to mention the local hospital, that would would not exist without immigrants.
All it's done is reinforce that selling and moving (house live on the market next week) is the right decision.

sandwichlover93 · 24/08/2025 15:59

Letthesunblaze · 24/08/2025 14:02

I spent 6 months in the USA and people put the American flag EVERYWHERE. National pride is a good thing

Are you okay?

Cheersmedears123 · 24/08/2025 16:00

None where I am, I don’t think it would go down very well if there were. A few people have the Palestinian flag in their windows though.

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