Illegal Immigrants In Hotels

[Goldengirl123]

What are your thoughts?

If you were living with your family in a country where you were at daily risk of death through war, famine, religious persecution etc.

And you leave your vulnerable family is such dangerous place?

Problem with imagining is you imagine how you want to imagine.

My grandparents were in the same situation and did leave with entire family and they were not the only ones. All families in the region left together.

They are legally entitled to travel through other countries before applying for asylum. In the uk being able to speak English and have family already here will count in their favour in their application for right to remain.

How would you deport them and still comply with the ECHR?

The comparison of the current wave of asylum seekers to the Jews after the holocaust makes uncomfortable reading to a Jew like me. It kind of stinks of antisemitism.

The holocaust was a unique event in our own continent, the number of Jews was in the 10s of thousands (total) and it was very much mixed sexes and ages.

Despite many having a different religion, there was always a desire to integrate and pay back to society the opportunity we had been offered.

There was also a degree of guilt that we hadn’t bombed the extermination camps.

We cannot rescue the amount of asylum seekers that we have, let alone the potential amount who would seek asylum were all of them admitted.

That'll be the terribly poorly treated Afghan interpreters .

ETA - I'm not being sarcastic or ironic and realise some may interpret it this way. The risks these men took only for people to want to drive them back to a place where they will be murdered.

SquishedMallow

Maybe it wasn’t that simple, maybe this is where they were advised to go. Countries restricted and closed borders, they had quotas

So there are young male migrants walking 5 miles to help out in a food bank?
Perhaps they're noting that the UK isn't without serious social problems. It's very positive that they're making such an effort to help.

Probably try to flee to the nearest safe country then in those circumstances instead of hopping in a rubber boat and leaving the shores of a safe country. Novel idea 💡

They are unofficial refugee camps. Hotels were used deliberately to foster civil unrest.
SERCO make billions and abuse people.

Brexit didn't change a thing, the EU didn't support the UK before Brexit, and before Brexit people were jumping on lorries at Calais. Since that route stopped it is now small boat crossings.

Basically I don't believe anyone who says we need to be in or out of the EU to fix it.

What a great idea. Actually I already have and not just to the acceptable, white Ukrainian families.

I can send you some links about how to do this if you’d like.

I’ve done some work in adult emergency housing centres and in prisons.
Emergency housing centres are WORSE than prisons, just a room, no amenities, men and women openly taking/smoking drugs and alcohol in communal areas and walking around like zombies - and it’s not the asylum seekers displaying this behaviour!

(not an argument with Quoted poster, totally agree with everything you said but just making an observation about the emergency accommodation)

I live in an area hugely affected by the Afghan resettlement scheme and it’s been hell to be honest. Personally I think our cultures are just way too different for harmonious mixing to be at all possible. Women have worked tirelessly in this country to be treated as equal and not ‘less than’. How can it be a good idea to flood the country with men who don’t agree with this and still believe women are second class citizens. I have huge sympathy for people from war torn countries, I just don’t see how we can help them without huge detriment to our own values. We are at breaking point with our services as it is. There’s no doctors appointments, no dentists available, social services are stretched beyond belief. I’d love to help every single person in the world that is suffering but I think we are simply full.

I honestly wasn’t trying to provoke racist posts. I really did just want other peoples opinions. Can’t we just have a normal debate without people getting personal?

Yes I really do fund raising for various charities. On my own!

Goldengirl isn’t because I think I am golden but because I am in my golden years

I made a mistake saying illegal immigranrs instead of asylum seekers. I do apologise

I have no problem with the Ukrainian women & children coming over as they have come over legally. Nothing to do with race or religion

Many asylum seekers are young men fleeing war. Why are they different?

So what? Doesn’t make you a good person.

so when war breaks out and the island of Ireland is faced with an influx of 60million Brits…… they just take us too do they?

There's an asylum hotel near my house and I haven't even noticed. Other than there's always plenty of Deliveroo riders around so I get my dinner nice and quick.
I think the last government either deliberately fucked up by not clearing the backlog or were just inept at finding any way forward with it. So now this government are landed with a problem. I do not agree with Reform.

These threads are always full of some vile shit. I guarantee that even if we didn't have Asylum Seekers, the same people spewing the negative propaganda would also be the ones moaning benefit scrounging alcoholic homeless people are getting things for nothing. No one gives a single flying fuck about social deprivation and the complex factors causing homelessness, until it's used as an argument against asylum seekers.

Nice victim bashing re: the Ukrainians.

You do realise Ukrainian people are culturally similar and come from a first world country ? It's human nature to feel more affiliated to people culturally similar to us. Those were also mainly families. HTH

Economic migrants.

Many of the non-channel route people are health migrants.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/06/21/asylum-seekers-allowed-stay-uk-high-blood-pressure/

If you want to the NHS to be the World health service then you'll have to fund it. I'm out of money.

A significant number of the illegal migrants are Afghans - why the heck are they are not bringing the women with them. They can't even get food if their menfolk leave them alone because they aren't allowed to go out! The men will do just fine once here but the women they leave at home will die. And even if they don't, they will have a truly miserable time.

However, although I think most of us would be very happy to accept Afghan women here, but we can't take all of them either.

Anyway there are no easy solutions. But providing a route for people to apply to come here legally would be a start.

You realise there's a terrible civil war leading to millions of deaths of Sudan.

OP. Are you ok with Sudanese fleeing war or not?

No! I expect they'll naturally and understandably have something to say about it !!!! (Like us at the moment with our catastrophic influx ) And we're not even the nearest country are we ?.....

The UK spends around £10 -15 BILLION per annum on Overseas Foreign Aid for developing countries.

I often wonder where that money goes, since this huge sum is in addition to every other country that contributes to this fund, the total must be mind boggling. I don't want to sound sceptical, but I can't help it - so if all that money is going to the very countries from which asylum seekers are arriving, why are things not improving for them?

The solution to asylum seekers may be twofold and could take some considerable time. Tackle human trafficking, and make sure Foreign Aid contributions are being used to improve the lives of people who feel they have to leave the beneficiary countries.

Ah yes. I believe everything on the Internet. Did you know I host 3 Ukrainian families, volunteer at my local food bank and have a room full of puppies for orphaned children to play with? :^)