Illegal Immigrants In Hotels

[Goldengirl123]

What are your thoughts?

We need our old people to be looked after and for them to have a comfortable rest of their life. Words are not helping picketing outside hotels is not helping when they should be in work. We need our old people looked after NOW. We need taxes and people to work NOW. What don't you understand otherwise let's get rid of all of them and then we rely on the feckless and their fake disability claims because they don't want to work.

This isn’t very accurate though. There was a homeless guy in the town where I live who was repeated offered accommodation but refused it. One of his relatives says it’s because he’s on drugs (same reason his family won’t put him up).

A member of my own extended family who lives the other end of the country presented to the council as homeless along with his girlfriend when his mother chucked him out, and was immediately housed in an hotel with breakfast included. They’ve now been moved into very comfortable self contained studio.

Generally speaking, “our own” homeless can get help if they actually want it and are willing to stay clean.

There are loads of protests and charities and work related to all those things. Why do you think people don't care - just because you've never thought about it?

And do you really think the "British poor" would not be better off with access to GP appointments, affordable housing, ability to walk around the place while female?

The whole abuse and name-calling people you disagree with thing reflects quite poorly on you, honestly. Maybe try to engage with the actual issues?

It’s not a case of homeless versus asylum seekers. Have you done any work with the homeless?? Because I volunteered at a winter shelter for 10 years and it’s not them versus the others. My experience was they were a lot more tolerable and considerably kinder than a lot of posters here. They had their demons, for sure. But were on the main decent & accepting men. The “what about the homeless when illegal refugees (sic) pinch the resources from them” brigade on the other hand… not so much. Road to dog whistling, flag shagging Reform nonsense

There needs to be a more intelligent and sustainable approach than just importing low skilled workers.

Our government need to actually think about this as a long term investment opportunity and not kick the can down the road.

One policy could be for medical/ nursing students to work a certain amount of hours in care homes to receive free tuition.

We need to get creative.

Perfect reply. Perfect! Thank you

Don't intellectualise about migrants they are already working within one month of arrival paying taxes and contributing to the benefits system. Do you think they are sitting around waiting in hotels for your benefits because they're ain't none they have to work! They are role models not scroungers. They are role models for our youngsters they have ambition. We should be patting them on the back not demonising them and trying to burn down their hotels. In regards to your second question to what my eyes see if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and dances at an Oasis concert like a duck it's a duck. The Oasis tickets were very expensive took me months to work and save for that.

Who is invading? Really hope it’s the Romans, our roads desperately need rebuilding!

Asylum seekers aren’t allowed to work.
What are you talking about? I’m genuinely confused about what point you’re trying to make.

Not all homeless are drug addicts and alkies just as not all male asylum seekers are rapists

But you have got to wonder why its ok to stereotype the former and not the latter

They do work and pay taxes and have ambition. Are you not embarrassed?

The majority of people who sign on can work.

I’m a little embarrassed for you, yes.

On C4 News they went to Albania and interviewed some of the young men that had come to the UK in small boats, illegally, and had since returned. One young man crossed Europe, got into a boat, crossed to the UK and made straight for a building site, arranged by a contact. He worked illegally, cash in hand, then returned to Albania to build a house for his parents. The problem here is the issue of those who would employ these guys illegally, because people will take those jobs.

There needs to be a more intelligent and sustainable approach than just importing low skilled workers.

I mean, when you're talking about the men who come on small boats, low skilled doesn't even cover it. Most of them don't speak English. Many are illiterate in their own languages. And they are raised in highly misogynist and homophobic cultures and religion. What can they possibly be contributing to the country? We are not talking about doctors, nurses, and engineers. We are talking about young unskilled entitled men who have already passed through several safe countries.

Here is Starmer "smashing the gangs"....

Asylum seekers cannot work and they cannot sign on either. This is a bit embarrassing for you.

With your logic in mind… I assume you’re putting up homeless people in your house. What a great citizen ❤️

Your response says it all.
Our old people have paid taxes all their lives. Now we have our young people taking it in benefits and buying vapes, beer, ultra processed food and oasis tickets. If they had any pride and ambition the spongers would go and get a job and get some pride for themselves. Take ownership of this beautiful country we live in.

Are you suggesting that the people coming across in boats should be employed to look after our old people? Don't think it's quite as simple as that. First they have to want to do that as a job and second they need to be vetted. I don't think anyone should be working with vulnerable people if they've not been vetted properly.

I haven't read through all the posts but, it seems to me, this Govt (as with previous Govts) is missing a trick. Broadly there are virtually no legal ways of claiming asylum prior to arriving in the UK. I believe it has been discussed but not taken forward, that a facility be opened in France, close to the coast, where asylum can be applied for, perhaps more than one facility. If there is a legitimate way of applying, it makes it easier, imo, to make avoidance of that facility and merely arrive by boat, illegal. Clearly there is a backlog but I can't help thinking that a line has to be drawn and a different approach is required. A bit of a cliche but as they say "if you keep doing what you've always done, don't expect a different outcome".

There’s so much false information and plain ignorance on this thread it’s unbelievable. And that’s why we can’t have a rational conversation about immigration or anything else for that matter because people spout whatever bullshit they’ve picked up and there’s zero critical thinking happening.

It’s fucking madness that people will just accept whatever they’re told with no question. No wonder we’re in such a mess and dickheads are voting for Reform.

More talk at least they are doing and working. Look for yourself in old people's homes, Tesco, warehouse, digging the roads, cleaning houses, the dustman and the shit shovelers jobs that we don't want they are taking them. All of sudden you sound precious and want the jobs 🤣

Not many people are understanding this.

I thought most of them were working illegally in nail bars, car washes and as deliveroo drivers. I thought Labour said they were going to put a stop to this. Working illegally means you get paid cash in hand so don't contribute anything in taxes.